RIU, You chose it, I'm growing it. Fucking Incredible!

They certainly have a lot more fan leaves than my two Casey Jones girls.....I still think the bud will be very nice there Laser.

Peace, DST

You know with all the little problems you had they still look great! Have you ever used Botanicare's line? Im only on my second grow but I really like there products. I'm using there Pure Blend Pro Bloom and Grow along with Liquid Karma and Cal-Mag Plus.

Barron said:

You know with all the little problems you had they still look great! Have you ever used Botanicare's line? Im only on my second grow but I really like there products. I'm using there Pure Blend Pro Bloom and Grow along with Liquid Karma and Cal-Mag Plus.

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I am using the same nutes with the exception of the grow because I am running a zero veg SoG
Great nutes

tom__420 said:

I am using the same nutes with the exception of the grow because I am running a zero veg SoG
Great nutes

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I might have to give that a try. I have ALWAYS been happy with AN's products until these last two grows. I honestly feel I did everything I could to avoid frying these plants, and they are just that...fried.

These buds will turn out just fine, I'm not worried about that. I just want to take another run at it with a different product, I haven't yet determined what I would different if I had it all to do again, and I do. So I'm going to go with a different brand of nutes potentially and see how that goes.

Alright, I'm now at Day 44 and the plants are chugging along. The tent is actually pretty full and if these buds fatten up over the next 2 - 3 weeks I think it'll actually be quite impressive overall...

Anyway, leaf drop and necrosis is continuing, but not at that drastic a pace, it started so early I figured it would accelerate, but it's really just kinda holding steady. I figure another 2-3 weeks and she'll have lost all of her leaves and at the same time be finished, so it is what it is.

Lookin pretty full! What kind of yield estimate do you think (assuming they don't get any bigger). Are the buds rock hard or a little airy?

Based on "so far" would you grow another crop of FI? I'm sure the smoke report will have some effect on that decision, but which way are you leaning right now?

it is what it is

gonna get chunky here in the next couple weeks!

smokingrubber said:

Lookin pretty full! What kind of yield estimate do you think (assuming they don't get any bigger). Are the buds rock hard or a little airy?

Based on "so far" would you grow another crop of FI? I'm sure the smoke report will have some effect on that decision, but which way are you leaning right now?

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Based on right now I wouldn't grow this strain again. It's been a rather frustrating run through. I would say based on the buds right now each plant has about 2 oz's on it. I have 6 plants so I'm still thinking 12-13. The buds aren't fluffy, they are pretty dense on most of the plants.

Here's the thing...would I grow this strain again based up on what I've got 6 weeks into it? Maybe...there are a couple of really good plants here and some that are just losers and don't need to be around.

It's not all done yet, but some look to finish much faster than others. Some look to have more of a "stacking" like indica's do and there are 2 that are "stretchy" like Sativa's and their buds don't connect and stack, but each bud is in it's own right pretty decently sized like a Sativa.

I'm obviously growing it again for my soil vs hydro grow, but after that I'll probably never touch it again. I need to get some seeds ordered up here though real soon to replace these plants when they finish!

looks pretty good from here.

just read 37pgs and they look awesome despite all the problems...hopefully switching the nutes is your answer for the comparison grow!

looks dank as fuck laser, and almost done.....not a few more weeks to chunk up i dont think

It's always a bit of a crap shoot with seeds. I've got more seeds than I know what to do with, even though I want to get to a point that I can keep a mother for clones instead. I thought my problems derived from growing multiple strains at once ... but it doesn't look like growing a single strain is much easier.

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It's always a bit of a crap shoot with seeds. I've got more seeds than I know what to do with, even though I want to get to a point that I can keep a mother for clones instead. I thought my problems derived from growing multiple strains at once ... but it doesn't look like growing a single strain is much easier.

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I am growing 7 strains at once for my first grow that way if I fuck one up I still have others that might live. Just makes sense to me.

I do not have the fancy stuff, I am just winging it.

(not trolling subscribed to this thread for months...)

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It's always a bit of a crap shoot with seeds. I've got more seeds than I know what to do with, even though I want to get to a point that I can keep a mother for clones instead. I thought my problems derived from growing multiple strains at once ... but it doesn't look like growing a single strain is much easier.

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Looking through all of my notes on feedings and looking and exactly what's happened I would make the assumption (hasn't been tested, so I can't make an assertion) that this particular strain became VERY unhappy when it was fed with higher P fertilizer. When I used Big Bud the leaves started to yellow dramatically and the plant started to experience EXCESSIVE leaf drop. When I flushed that out and switched to straight up SensiBloom the problem slowed WAYYYYYY down and the leaf drop is under control. I haven't actually seen a fully brown crispy leaf in a while. The ones that were 1/2 necrotic have even remained. I ended up pulling some of them because they were pissing me off ( I know I shoulda left'em).

I'm going to switch nutrients on this next one, but in all reality, I think it just can't handle the abuse from high P and K ferts like Big Bud and Overdrive. I didn't use overdrive at all on this grow and things seem to be much better.

The did find it odd the amount that plant fried and burned @ 800ppm! It was @ about 950 w/ SensiBloom, Cal-Mag, and Big Bud and when I switched to just SensiBloom and Cal-Mag @ 800ppm, they burned. Lowered it to 600 and they have been much happier plants altogether.

So for those out there that might grow this straing with AN's nutes...don't use Big Bud and Overdrive. The plants need more N, at least in the earier stages.

The next one will be interesting and by the time all of this said and done and spring rolls around I will have grown this strain in hydro twice and soil once. I will have used 3 different brands of nutrients and all else is similar. The rooms are all in the same bedroom, they all have approximately the same space and all under 600w lights. I will have smoke reports on hydro against soil and overall for FI.

I choose to grow the 420 strain from visc and it has been a challenge untill I realized how nute sensative they are I guess Since FI is a cross it inherited that Nute burn issue. My plants looked like crap for a long time major nute burn issues now they are are nice and I backed off 50% on nutes. I think my second run will work out now that I confirmed the nute issue since your also had a similar problem thanks for the info.

Hi laserbrn, looks like you will have some nice smoke. We always strive to improve but that's a good thing, I am sure you'll still smile and enjoy the first nicely cured bud.

DST

DST said:

Hi laserbrn, looks like you will have some nice smoke. We always strive to improve but that's a good thing, I am sure you'll still smile and enjoy the first nicely cured bud.

DST

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Oh, I think I'll smile plenty. I've been smoking White Widow for what seems like ages now. I'll be happy just to smoke something else.

Of course the way I've done it now I'll be smoking FI for a loong time to come.

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They still look pretty immature. I haven't started flushing yet as I think these might take awhile. I have to go on a trip the 9th-14th and I might just go ahead and flush then. Switch it to plain water right before I leave and when I get back I'll see how it stands. I was figuring I'd be chopping right before this trip, but it looks like it'll be sometime after.

i haven't smoked any GOOD ww in years. i really miss it now.

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Oh, I think I'll smile plenty. I've been smoking White Widow for what seems like ages now. I'll be happy just to smoke something else.

Of course the way I've done it now I'll be smoking FI for a loong time to come.

Day 48:

They still look pretty immature. I haven't started flushing yet as I think these might take awhile. I have to go on a trip the 9th-14th and I might just go ahead and flush then. Switch it to plain water right before I leave and when I get back I'll see how it stands. I was figuring I'd be chopping right before this trip, but it looks like it'll be sometime after.

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What is your technique regarding flushing if you don't mind me asking

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What is your technique regarding flushing if you don't mind me asking

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For this strain I'll flush with plain water for at least a week. It usually ends up going a little longer because I hold out to chop for as long as possible waiting for them to turn "ripe".

I don't buy all the "flushing" products. Just never been convinced it does shit. Water seems to be a good way to go. I'll probably start them on plain water on Saturday which will be day 53.