Rotating and moving plants makes sense... or not?

Father Ramirez

Father Ramirez

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Rotating plants is a common practice to assist light penetration. It makes perfect sense. But I ask your opinions on something that's had me wondering. I submit that plants, after millennia of evolution, have an innate sense of cardinal direction. They know east from west. Stress of any kind inhibits growth; we all agree on that. Plants have forever lived fixed in the earth. It simply makes sense to me that they prefer not to be moved at all. Subtle stress that is not visible to us may be affecting the plant's chemicals.The only move my 2 plants have experienced was just a few days ago. In the belief they recognize true west, I decided to switch them around so the shorter one doesn't block the IR lamp that will become a 10 minute 'sunset' when I flip (don't know that it works but I believe in the concept). The plants, which had been absolutely robust, stalled for a few days as if I had trimmed them. Stress? Could it be that allowing plants to remain in the same spot their entire lives delivers the best product? Yield is important, of course. But this plant has medicinal qualities which may develop differently if allowed to live a more peaceful life. I don't know that any benefit to a stationary life can be proven or quantified. I welcome discussion. Apology for all one paragraph: stupid tablet!
 
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mrfig

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Near the equator i have personally see the the major difference where the sun rise and sets in each season. Reason why i moved to pots rather than to a stationary position in the ground as overcast blocks direct sunlight. I keep moving my pots to get that +3 hrs of d.s every 3-4 months. I have had plants in last weeks of flowering and afraid to dig her up had dried up and died from lack of exposure to sun. I live in a mountainous area and very subtropical and if the sun rises infront of a tree on the higher ground means -1.5 hr of light for the girls and sets behind a larger mountain means another -1hr of light.
Truthfully i don't believed i answered your question but as for me chasing the light is beneficial in so many ways. I noticed my girls flower way earlier if in mostly shaded and less sunlight area. therefore I would leave seedlings in one area for 2 weeks or 3 nodes high and literally move them feets away in a semi-constant shaded area and sex them and put them back in Direct sun light.( getting rid of males in the process).
I am still learning about where i live and I almost completed a year round out door grow with 3 harvests so far. And the Human element is way more powerful than any evolution nature can conjure up. As we progress in knowledge and technology we will be able to replicate and reproduce what mother nature has been doing for thousands of years
 
Sand4x105

Sand4x105

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  • Stress of any kind inhibits growth; we all agree on that.

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  • We do all agree on that?

    Just let me give you some unasked for advice...
    When you are stoned, us the word portion of your computer, and just type it out, and save it, then when you are not Hi, you can re-read it, and well, you know edit the funny stuff out...
    Do you write comedy in your spare time...

    Sweet...​




 
Father Ramirez

Father Ramirez

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Of course it's a wacky concept! That's why it's fun. I suppose you, Sandx, think I'm forgetting topping, fimming, super cropping and LST. Stress DOES inhibit growth, from which the plants bounce back, but growth is stalled briefly. I stand by my statement that stress stalls growth...regardless of recovery period and eventual yield. For those who laughed, I'm genuinely glad I could entertain you guys! Is it so far fetched to think that a specie, a specie you revere, with complex chemical components and action, would develop differently depending on subtle differences in stress? I'm talking quality of high, not yield. I'm not high as I write this, and yes, I do write comedy, but I hadn't considered this among it- LMAO!! Mrfig; thanks and good work! 3 outdoor grows in a year at the equator? Tell me you're growing sativa! Thanks all for replying.
 
Father Ramirez

Father Ramirez

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I just read a post in which it was asked if putting plants on rotating Christmas tree stands is a good idea. Who knows?... could produce the greatest weed ever! To a plant that relative speed would be dizzying! The strain would be named Hurricane. Ok... NOW I'm high.
 
Cobnobuler

Cobnobuler

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:) I thought I was reading one of those Nigerian scammers movie reviews at first.
Anyway while its true that the plants "stay fixed in the earth", the earth itself doesnt stay fixed on its axis and in effect, outdoors the plants light source hits them at different angles all day long.
Indoors I move my plants slightly every day because I made a curtain out of those cheap emergency foil blankets and moving them prevents any effects of "hot spots" coming off the foil.

Deep subject here man...:) Actually, it IS one of the thoughts I have when I consider doing a SCROG that I would like to try someday. Tied to the screen means they cant then be moved.
 
JohnnySocko

JohnnySocko

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some plants don't mind being rotated, other (like the genus ficus) hate it (rotate a ficus tree daily and then watch it drop leaves)....
my guess is a weed plant could give a shit,,,,

I see no point in it, let it grow leaf where it wants and leave it be.....it will grow wherever benefits it most and rotating it only robs peter to pay Paul so to speak (from a light use POV)
 
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mrfig

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MY FIG PLANT PRETTY TOLERANT_ rotating every once in a blue to get a soil-contained cutting, you know to keep it out of the sun. AND JANE is all the same I grow hyrbid papaya strain with bagseeds jaja. Also covering with gardening fabric on soil pots improves plants health, if i was directly at the equator i wouldn't need to turn. am more in the sub tropic.
 
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Midwest_FoTwenny

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Father Ramirez said:
Rotating plants is a common practice to assist light penetration. It makes perfect sense. But I ask your opinions on something that's had me wondering. I submit that plants, after millennia of evolution, have an innate sense of cardinal direction. They know east from west. Stress of any kind inhibits growth; we all agree on that. Plants have forever lived fixed in the earth. It simply makes sense to me that they prefer not to be moved at all. Subtle stress that is not visible to us may be affecting the plant's chemicals.The only move my 2 plants have experienced was just a few days ago. In the belief they recognize true west, I decided to switch them around so the shorter one doesn't block the IR lamp that will become a 10 minute 'sunset' when I flip (don't know that it works but I believe in the concept). The plants, which had been absolutely robust, stalled for a few days as if I had trimmed them. Stress? Could it be that allowing plants to remain in the same spot their entire lives delivers the best product? Yield is important, of course. But this plant has medicinal qualities which may develop differently if allowed to live a more peaceful life. I don't know that any benefit to a stationary life can be proven or quantified. I welcome discussion. Apology for all one paragraph: stupid tablet!
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There is one thing that I don't believe you took into account but you didn't mention that the roots kept growing and like we say the bigger the root the bigger the fruit right? I may take a few days longer but hell I push them as long as I can as long as I'm not seeing any herm or discoloration. I like to take it right before that happens because you'll end up with ugly yellow hananas on your top buds because it wants to continue flowering on the stick until its dry . I've done it enough to know better lol.
mrfig said:
MY FIG PLANT PRETTY TOLERANT_ rotating every once in a blue to get a soil-contained cutting, you know to keep it out of the sun. AND JANE is all the same I grow hyrbid papaya strain with bagseeds jaja. Also covering with gardening fabric on soil pots improves plants health, if i was directly at the equator i wouldn't need to turn. am more in the sub tropic.
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Jjgrow420

Jjgrow420

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Midwest_FoTwenny said:
There is one thing that I don't believe you took into account but you didn't mention that the roots kept growing and like we say the bigger the root the bigger the fruit right? I may take a few days longer but hell I push them as long as I can as long as I'm not seeing any herm or discoloration. I like to take it right before that happens because you'll end up with ugly yellow hananas on your top buds because it wants to continue flowering on the stick until its dry . I've done it enough to know better lol.
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I'm sure 2013 appreciated your post
 
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