"Runoff pH is useless" or "Keep an open mind"?

OneMoreRip

OneMoreRip

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@Hollatchaboy

OneMoreRip said:

the person who I asked said because of salt pockets in the soil, in case you were interested

again though, i can make my organic soil 4s-7s with the different components i have, what would be ideal? and without test it, how would i achieve ideal, if there is?



not sure if intentional, but you quoted me and said nothing.
 
Bukvičák

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OneMoreRip said:
I just believe ph is first place to start if root zone issue and no glaring issues. you are more than welcome to try and convince me otherwise.

it's simple to check and from what i now has an optimum range so that nutrient uptake can work properly.
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Nutrient balance is what you want at first place. Once you are able to feed the plant properly, less you concern about pH. Once you do organics properly, you do not concern about pH at all. KISS is the way to go…
 
OneMoreRip

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Bukvičák said:
Nutrient balance is what you want at first place. Once you are able to feed the plant properly, less you concern about pH. Once you do organics properly, you do not concern about pH at all. KISS is the way to go…
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okay, so you didn’t convince me plants don’t care about ph and it’s not the first thing to make sure in check if suspected root zone issue, for all growing mediums, without obvious other problem/s

I agree kiss method, I have a shoe string watering my plants, start to finish.

may have to start a thread in organic section because this topic deserves its own thread imo
 
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PadawanWarrior

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OneMoreRip said:
okay, so you didn’t convince me plants don’t care about ph and it’s not the first thing to make sure in check if suspected root zone issue, for all growing mediums.

I agree kiss method, I have a shoe string watering my plants, start to finish.

may have to start a thread in organic section because this topic deserves its own thread imo
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Do you have any pics of the shoe string watering setup?
 
OneMoreRip

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PadawanWarrior said:
Do you have any pics of the shoe string watering setup?
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never watered either of them aside from shoe string. Starter in solo cup with moist soil, then to that pot with moist soil and string.
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One on the left under watered, to lazy to care. Think I need to get another string from one of my kid’s shoes.

incase anyone actually cares, it’s ~1/4” watering cord from amazon. Should have gone with 1/2” I believe so only one string needed
 
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Bukvičák

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OneMoreRip said:
okay, so you didn’t convince me plants don’t care about ph and it’s not the first thing to make sure in check if suspected root zone issue, for all growing mediums, without obvious other problem/s

I agree kiss method, I have a shoe string watering my plants, start to finish.

may have to start a thread in organic section because this topic deserves its own thread imo
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If you fuck up feeding than you fuck up pH as well. Get some basic nutrient knowledges and focus on providing and keeping nutrient element ratio in check. Than you are guaranteed you wont have any “pH related” issues. I give up this guy is clown and his grow just confirm that… good luck with your pH thing.
 
OneMoreRip

OneMoreRip

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Bukvičák said:
If you fuck up feeding than you fuck up pH as well. Get some basic nutrient knowledges and focus on providing and keeping nutrient element ratio in check. Than you are guaranteed you wont have any “pH related” issues. I give up this guy is clown and his grow just confirm that… good luck with your pH thing.
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I don’t ph anything now that I made my medium ~ideal ph
 
PadawanWarrior

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Just fed mine. I don't usually take pics, but here's a few. None of these have been topped or anything.

Veg tent with 5000k.

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Flower closet with 3500 and 3000k HLG. This has been in here since it was little. The structure is different with the lower Kelvin spectrum. She's a little limpy because she just got fed and watered.

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Wizzlebiz

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OneMoreRip said:
That’s a yes. Hahhaa

show me where plants don’t care about ph of growing medium
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This is not the actual topic you started out with. So many people have explained why the pH of "runoff" in soil doesn't help you. Which IS the topic of the thread. See below
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So now that you have been informed about runoff you have defaulted to other things that are not part of the original topic. Just accept your original thought is not valid and move on.
 
Bukvičák

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OneMoreRip

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jondamon said:
And we are now supposed to believe from a lazy waterer that you’re not too lazy to keep the rootzone pH tested and corrected. Lol.

you’ve changed the narrative of the thread to suite the poor advice you are dishing out.
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I made my soil correct ph from the get go, as I have already said.

my advice is that ph is important, show me where it is not and I will change my advice.

Not sure what my laziness has to do with anything (or anything about me or what i do)
 
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OneMoreRip

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Wizzlebiz said:
This is not the actual topic you started out with. So many people have explained why the pH of "runoff" in soil doesn't help you. Which IS the topic of the thread. See below
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So now that you have been informed about runoff you have defaulted to other things that are not part of the original topic. Just accept your original thought is not valid and move on.
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stop acting butthurt. If you made the claim ph doesn't matter (for any growing medium), then support it.

Show me were I was informed about anything regarding run off, that I wasn't already aware of.

you are close to being on my ignore list as well, if you continue the odd behavior

Anyone saying I am giving people poor advice by telling them to make sure ph of the medium is good, then please show me the proof because I don't want to give bad advice. thanks!
 
jondamon

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OneMoreRip said:
stop acting butthurt. If you made the claim ph doesn't matter (for any growing medium), then support it.

Show me were I was informed about anything regarding run off, that I wasn't already aware of.

you are close to being on my ignore list as well, if you continue the odd behavior

Anyone saying I am giving people poor advice by telling them to make sure ph of the medium is good, then please show me the proof because I don't want to give bad advice. thanks!
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That’s NOT what you were saying.

you’ve been talking about runoff pH.

NO ONE IS SAYING PH DOESNT MATTER!!!

we are saying that runoff pH is NOT ACCURATE!

you are the one advising people to check it for information.

what information?

what is it actually going to tell you?

If you hit a Salt pocket - and you do leach the salts out of that pocket the higher salinity will have a lower pH more often than not anyway and won’t be accurate!

If your medium is hydrophobic and the water you use runs straight through without actually being absorbed into the medium then you’re just testing water that hasn’t been anywhere as it’s gone straight through the medium and never touched anything.

starting to see why runoff pH can’t be accurately tested for any reliability?

Or are you going to change the narrative again to suit something else you’ve said and changed again?
 
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