Rurumo's HLG 650R Grow Journal

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conor c

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Rurumo said:
Thanks anthony! I'm really blown away by the initial quality of the light, I think you'd love either of those! I've gotten one of my friends to pop a few of my FDM seeds too, so I'll get pics of any good phenos he finds. He's doing the Sweet Tooth #4 for sure, and I think a few C99 and ESB. I gave him seeds from all their strains that I have, and I think my Indiana Bubblegum Bx2 seeds are probably sitting in my PO BOX right this moment. I wish one of us had room for a few of those right now, I miss that flavor. Indiana Bubblegum is one of the most underrated "elite" strains. I would take it or Sweet Pink Grapefruit over any of the $1,000+$ fotm cuts. Sorry got waaaay off track there lol.
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Its ironic i hate the fruit but the original spg cut was nice i liked it not seen it in years mind you
 
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conor c said:
Its ironic i hate the fruit but the original spg cut was nice i liked it not seen it in years mind you
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I love the SPG cut too and just recently found someone who has it, but I figure, with all the work put into Swt #4, I should check it out first since I already have the seeds. I heard SPG tends to autoflower if rootbound but that it has been bred out of Swt #4, no idea if that's true or not. I think SPG is one of my top 10 cuts of all time, and actually is probably a top 5 pick for me.
 
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conor c

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Rurumo said:
I love the SPG cut too and just recently found someone who has it, but I figure, with all the work put into Swt #4, I should check it out first since I already have the seeds. I heard SPG tends to autoflower if rootbound but that it has been bred out of Swt #4, no idea if that's true or not. I think SPG is one of my top 10 cuts of all time, and actually is probably a top 5 pick for me.
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Yeah it does auto if rootbound tbh closest in seed i found so far was sweet deep grapefruit by dinafem they goners far as i can tell but i know some folks that used to work for em have set up and or working for others so i hope someone pops up with that line oneday too i think it was spg x blueberry it yielded good nice big dense fruity buds but it tended to lean to the spg more ime
 
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I'll be back with an update soon, things are moving along nicely and today or tomorrow I will be taking cuttings and transplanting. The plants are looking nice and healthy and were ready for this a week or more ago, I've just been sidelined for a few days. Also, check out what I just got in the mail!

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This is Mullumbimby Madness x Haze #15 from Bush Weed at Seedbay. I also got a pack of the MM X Oaxacan Space Shuttle in a separate order, I just decided I had to have a pack of each. And what a nice freebie, I will very much enjoy growing out original haze x Skunk #1. This was my first Seedbay order and I loved the experience, they are very responsive and helpful, and the shipping from England was under 10 days each time. I just must have gotten lucky and avoided Chicago ISC because they arrived very quickly. So excited to try a few of Neville's "grail" crosses, this should be some incredible smoke!
 
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I got them topped and will transplant this morning. I'm going to give them a little while to root into their new pots, then flip to 12/12. If they are too rootbound, I'll just trim the root ball before transplanting-they actually seem to really like that. I did let these go at least a week too long, but at least the cuttings were choice!

Here are a couple lovely Cinderella 99s:

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I'm also happy to report that my friend who grew out the Louis/Irene earlier this year with me is growing Sweet Tooth #4 right now, so I'm excited to see those plants again. They have really cool broad/thick leaves and are very pretty plants. Right now only 2 of the last 8 strains I've grown have had excellent terpenes- quality and quantity- so that's one thing that I seem to find more in older strains like these.
 
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Okay, so this plant is exactly 30 inches away from the light at 40% and my lux meter is showing about 23k. The readings from around the tent range from 20-25k lux, so when this light has a little space to work with, you get a very even coverage. I love the HLG 650r at 40% for veg, the growth is incredible and I find myself needing to adjust my nutrients to it quickly to avoid deficiencies. Ideally, I would get these plants healthy again after being so rootbound, plus recover from me tearing the roots up-I should have just cut the sides/bottom with a knife like I do with bonsai moms, but I just went at the root balls with my hands this time, probably not paying as much attention as I should have. I'll spray these with some mild soy hydrolysate to give them a little N boost for stretch.

Problem is, this is the size of plant with 4 colas that I want to try flipping-I want to see how a more compact grow with just 4 main colas does vs my usual method of totally filling up a canopy with bud sites. The idea being that I really don't need the maximum amount of bud for medicine each cycle, and also, limiting the # of colas should give me more space for breeding stuff, like bagging them, moving the plants in and out, etc. With 1.5 gallon air pots and just 4 colas, I'm hoping I can lift them at full flower if I need to move them around. Using less coco will be nice too.

So I'm thinking of giving them one or two days to recover a bit more, then flipping. I'll time things better next time so that I have plants this size, but also their root system fully filling out the pot.

One last comment: I really love the light that this fixture produces, it's a very nice white light. The bar lights also work well, but I think they had more yellow in the spectrum, which I got used to, but I much prefer this spectrum. The HLG light is more of a crisp white and it reminds me a little of my CMH fixture, which I love too. It also feels a bit like HID in terms of the distance from the canopy, which I like because you can really see your entire canopy without hunching over and peering under the massive bar light. So far my impression of this light is 10/10 in all respects.

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Rurumo said:
Okay, so this plant is exactly 30 inches away from the light at 40% and my lux meter is showing about 23k. The readings from around the tent range from 20-25k lux, so when this light has a little space to work with, you get a very even coverage. I love the HLG 650r at 40% for veg, the growth is incredible and I find myself needing to adjust my nutrients to it quickly to avoid deficiencies. Ideally, I would get these plants healthy again after being so rootbound, plus recover from me tearing the roots up-I should have just cut the sides/bottom with a knife like I do with bonsai moms, but I just went at the root balls with my hands this time, probably not paying as much attention as I should have. I'll spray these with some mild soy hydrolysate to give them a little N boost for stretch.

Problem is, this is the size of plant with 4 colas that I want to try flipping-I want to see how a more compact grow with just 4 main colas does vs my usual method of totally filling up a canopy with bud sites. The idea being that I really don't need the maximum amount of bud for medicine each cycle, and also, limiting the # of colas should give me more space for breeding stuff, like bagging them, moving the plants in and out, etc. With 1.5 gallon air pots and just 4 colas, I'm hoping I can lift them at full flower if I need to move them around. Using less coco will be nice too.

So I'm thinking of giving them one or two days to recover a bit more, then flipping. I'll time things better next time so that I have plants this size, but also their root system fully filling out the pot.

One last comment: I really love the light that this fixture produces, it's a very nice white light. The bar lights also work well, but I think they had more yellow in the spectrum, which I got used to, but I much prefer this spectrum. The HLG light is more of a crisp white and it reminds me a little of my CMH fixture, which I love too. It also feels a bit like HID in terms of the distance from the canopy, which I like because you can really see your entire canopy without hunching over and peering under the massive bar light. So far my impression of this light is 10/10 in all respects.

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Their lights are awesome. We just converted to full HLG for veg and flower.
 
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I flipped these to 12/12 today, hoping to try more compact plants for once. Everyone is doing well and the plants are loving the increase in light under the 650. I turned it up to 60% today and spaced the distance so the tops are at about 30-35k lux. I like to increase it slowly for the first week of flower. The plants really seem to love this light.

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Here is my whorled C99. I'm feeding these 9 EC half and half MaxiGrow/Bloom. I do have one of the C99 receiving the liquid organic CSL based nutrients-it looks like any of the Maxi plants for now, but we'll see how it does during the stretch phase.

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Same plant

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Since my friend and I share cuts, I gave him a C99 and he gave me a Sweet Tooth #4 and an ESB. This is the Sweet Tooth #4, and man have I missed this wonderful strain, it's tops for good vibes. I love the leaves on it too.

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I love this little plant, probably soon to be not so little. This is the ESB, and I'd like to grow out a bunch of these in the future. This is a really special strain from Oldtimer1 and it's well known for the quality of high and for being good for anxiety. I just purchased a pack of Nigerian Sunshine because the idea behind it reminds me of ESB. ESB is Nigerian Skunk x Blueberry and Nigerian Sunshine is BOEL Nigerian x Blue Moon Rocks. I'd love to do a side by side with those. The Nigerian Sunshine is also known for helping people with PTSD, so maybe there is something to the "African strain (thcv?) + Blueberry" combination for anxiety.

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Here is a C99, it looks like it's glowing from the power of these lights! I'd like to get a UV bar in here for flower, but I have to wait until next month, should have plenty of time to benefit from it still. These 3 strains are all from FDM.
 
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I have a single QB 288 V2 running on an 80 watt driver in my 2x2.
This is my current SOG in there

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Rurumo said:
Next month I'll be getting an HLG 65 to replace my generic 120 watt LED in my 2x2. I'm trying to reduce my electricity use a bit and after seeing how bright my new 650 is, I'm betting the 65 will beat out what I have in there. I'm really digging these lights!
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