Scrog setup branches getting close to the light?

420newbieg

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ok so what i have is 3 plants under a screen. I am fairly new to the screen method i hae herd of it but never tryed it.

So neways i let the tops grow across the screen i bent the top down and tucked it under each hole as it grew .

One plant i for some reason cut the top off but anyways on all plants it seems like in the middle of the screen those branches are growing to almost a foot above the screen atleast 3 or 4 branches on all of the plants.

Like i said i am new to this screen stuff so i prolly dident fill in the screen the best and prolly should hae only did just 2 plants under the screen.

one of the branches is up to about 6 inches below the light i am using a 400 hps and cfl floru side lighting all together i have about 600w total.

Those few shoots i mentioned are too tall and i dont really hae no where to tuck them into i have started to fill out the screen im 2 weeks into flowering. so im not sure what to do all the lower shoots would get alot more light if i could bring down some of those tops then i would have to keep rasing my light.

So many branches grew out that i ran out of space to tuck near the middle of the screen .

Any ideas as to what i could do before my final harvest is effected??
 

pineappleman420

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did you start from seed? what size containers? how much can you raise the light? Pics help. @ weeks into flower depends on strain you could have one to two more weeks of stretch. but it depends a lot on strain.
 

Red1966

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Trouble with a scrog is you gotta keep up with all the shoots coming up through the screen. You may have to thin some of the branches.
 

420newbieg

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I am growing cheese and in a 7 gallon pot from a seed from seedbank I am also growing 707 headband. like I said on each plant I have 3 branches that are below the center of the light area and have grown tall .

I have 4x4 area and I got a total of 3 plants under the screen. I dident want to have to raise the light anymore and have the lower growth getting any less light then it might already be.

I read I would loose yield. So anyways as of today I tied 2 tops down. I figure this should allow some of the lower growth to sorta catch up and I would imagine the tops you tie down should grow back up towards the light eventually.


Ill try and get a pic up today I don't wanna screw up yield or have a bunch of buds come out not as strong .

like I said im 2 weeks in or alil more The cheese is called big buddah
 

akhiymjames

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Lower stuff below the screen isn't gonna make a major difference in yield. Genetics is what makes yield come out. Since your scrogging the concentration will be the screen of buds. That's where your yield will come from. Don't know how many watts your running and how far your lights are actually from the tops of all the buds but raising the light a few inches won't hurt yield at all. Best things is do what you did and tie them and tuck them some more if you can if not just tie them down like you did and keep pushing. Your yield will be fine just worry about keeping those plants happy. Peace bro
 

420newbieg

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what are you talking about man
Lower stuff below the screen isn't gonna make a major difference in yield. Genetics is what makes yield come out. Since your scrogging the concentration will be the screen of buds. That's where your yield will come from. Don't know how many watts your running and how far your lights are actually from the tops of all the buds but raising the light a few inches won't hurt yield at all. Best things is do what you did and tie them and tuck them some more if you can if not just tie them down like you did and keep pushing. Your yield will be fine just worry about keeping those plants happy. Peace bro

what are you talking about man. I never implied anything about stuff below the screen there isn't any growth I cut it all off .

I am talking about lower growth above the screen wouldent that make more sense.

I never implied anything like your saying . Even a noob is smart enough to figure out the growth above the screen is where the buds are gonna come from.


But since u asked ill say the couple of tops that I did have were about 6 inches from the bulb and I am using 400w hps plus side lighting .

what I did was tie a couple of the tallest top branches down.

like I said if you have say 4 tops a foot taller then the rest of the whole screen growth wouldent you say that those 4 tops will try and grow a big cola and the rest of the screen will end up growing tiny popcorn buds???

One other thing are you implying that if I grow a plant in a normal way in a pot naturally or I grow like this in a screen that another plant the same kind as the first will produce the same yield ???
 
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akhiymjames

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what are you talking about man



what are you talking about man. I never implied anything about stuff below the screen there isn't any growth I cut it all off .

I am talking about lower growth above the screen wouldent that make more sense.

I never implied anything like your saying . Even a noob is smart enough to figure out the growth above the screen is where the buds are gonna come from.
I didn't know you cut it all off you just said lower growth. That's all I could go by. Everyone that scrogs doesn't completely strip everything below the screen it's a preference I guess. Some will say that's not a true scrog but lots of people don't believe in taking off 1/3 to 1/2 the plant. Was just a lil misunderstand on my part but raising the light a lil isn't gonna hurt your yield was all I was saying. Maybe it just wasn't my place to speak on it my bad
 

420newbieg

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no im just trying to figure out if I should tie down so I can lower my light to help increase yield or like you said if I have to raise the light alil bit it no big deal . I am new to this so im just trying to figure out anything I can
 

akhiymjames

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Looks like they're pretty much done stretching so you def don't wanna tuck anymore cus you don't wanna break branches but looks like you did have some more room to tuck towards where you took the pic. Best thing would be to do is tie those tall tops like you already thought of doing but IMHO those few tall tops are really enough to stop the light from penetrating the the shorter tops. If you think it will tie them down. I went through this a lil with my last scrog as I grew from seed too and didn't know how much she would stretch but I kept the canopy as even as possible. Topping certain branches a week or so before flipping allows you to keep the canopy even and stopping tops from growing taller than other and helps make nice big cola tops too. Scrogging from seed is unpredictable but if you have clones of these will be better to scrog them again since you've seen how they stretch. Hope this helps some
 

akhiymjames

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If those tops are getting to tall and getting close to light def tie them down as you don't want the light frying the tops.
 

Carolina Dream'n

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Having the light too close to the canopy is going to deminish yields not increase them. If your hood is not exactly the same size as your canopy footprint is actuall better to keep it 12-18 inches above canopy so light can spread evenly. (ie a euro hood in a 4x4 tent)
 

420newbieg

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ok well im doing pretty good for now they appear to have stretched alil over a ft both the headband and cheese. One of the tops the one that was closest to the light that one appears to have burnt alil..

what is also weird is it kinda appears 1 or 2 hairs on some buds has turned like orange I realize its too early for that..

ya I have just raised the light so now the top bud is no closer then 8 inches to the light and the lower stuff around 14 inches
 
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