Your seriously trying to convince me the agency for the govt that is in 20 trillion debt and spends 1 trillion on war on drugs and 700 billion a year on military wouldn't buy a seed to see package materials, origin, and type of discreet methods? I think your exaggerating greatly, you think they will bring a forum thread link to a court room bro? Lol...Guys "iblazetoomuch said it comes in DVD cases, lets open all DVD cases from UK/europe!!"
"DEA: ON IT SIR"
All joking aside, attitude has seen some increase of threads, I've read them aswell although I have not made purchase in the last 2 months or so since they started popping up. I would remind you that ordering cannabis seeds online is illegal in most scenarios in the USA, so why would you expect to receive them hassle free forever, I don't know about correlation between forum posts and customs dude, you have pretty weak link in respect to that but I believe your expressing your opinion honestly so its not a big deal. I said it was mentioned many times since 2009 about discreet packaging, by that logic anything that came after that would have ended that nonsense rumour of mentioning it on RIU = it getting confiscated. They know about DVD/CD cases and all other mentioned methods available for purchase, they expend billions on purchasing much more measly things then seeds from a seedbank, if its a priority to confiscate them, they are not going to dance around RIU only, they will get tax payer money to order whatever they want and however many diff options of stealth or standard to see the differences ect.
Just be happy we can get them at all, the seedbanks in US aren't going anywhere soon, medical and now legalization is taking more and more ground in USA anyway. Just be patient with it, nobody here is going to directly influence your shipment from not coming in, the FEDS will stop it if they can with or without RIU reiterating 4 year old material, or public FAQ/shipping info on the websites.
You sound like a relaxed person, but you don't quite take into account a few things.
1) When information is easily located on a top forum, that information is now open to any and all members of the public. Not just various government task forces. Everyone.
2) Task forces within DEA and other I/C departments don't go looking for more work to do or fancy ways people might hide cannabis seeds. The top priorities of HS and I/C right now, are, in order
a) terrorism (threat to persons and property within the nation)
b) high priority narcotics
c) Human trafficking and sex crime trafficking
d) internet crimes and hacking
Policy for all government task forces and agencies comes from the top down, and these directives mandate what the departments focus on. Who makes policy? Legislators. When and why do legislators take action on issues? Because they have been brought to the public light, because the public (or even a small percentage of it, like a group of elderly people opposed to Marijuana) is raising a ruckus and election season is just around the corner.
Right now, as of this writing, our main concern is seeds getting snatched at customs. That could change in a heartbeat because people on this forum go on about how things are hidden and how "easy" it is to get them through customs. It's only a sponsored bill, a few crazed voters, a short argument within a few legislative bodies, and the signing of a piece of paper and there could be heavy checkpoints set up at our local postal service departments to screen for any potential contraband that has made it through customs.
When I read your argument, I understand it in its context. You're an optimist. Good for you. Many on this forum are far too blase in their regard for ordering seeds and discussing various stealth methods of importing federal level contraband.
I don't quite think many people ordering online understand what happens when their seeds get confiscated. It isn't just "I ordered the guarantee so they will send more seeds." That's naive as hell. The orderer's identities are flagged with HS/IC. The incident goes onto their electronic file and will come up every single time they enter or exit the United States, when their passports are scanned. At the least, this will inconvenience them while they get a few additional questions coming into the states. At most, they'll get nailed for something stupid when they least expect it. Any and all discussion that spits in the face of the effectiveness of federal and state policy at counteracting contraband should be avoided in a public and easily searchable forum.
While I'd love to see a tidal change in cannabis regulation and legalization, we are not there yet and we are just one federal order--or one moment of disagreement or misinterpretation of directive between the Attorney General and Obama's office--away from having every single state sanctioned operation raided and having all those persons involved facing federal grand juries. There's every possibility that after the 2016 election the era of "legalized cannabis" could become an asterisk in the long and ridiculous saga of enforcement and crackdowns.
