Second Grow in RW w/ Jacks 123

Qsound

Active Member
Hey all and thank you in advance for the help!...I'm new here and see that there is a forum for plant problems so here I am with my problem!

Trying to dial in my VEG in RW before flipping, and could use some help with some DEF's that are showing up!!.... (Starting second run in RW)

I have been feeding at about 1 EC @ 5.5PH then letting dry back for a couple days to let roots establish before going to auto feed with Growlink. This seemed to be the sweet spot for EC and the plants were looking pretty good (a big improvement). The EC would spike a bit after dry back as expected and the PH would climb a bit as well, but stayed fairy consistent, and was not seeing any real DEF's.

I started to feed daily a couple days ago and not letting dry back as much...coincidentally began seeing small signs of DEF in fans...mostly larger fans, but now spreading at bit. I moved my plants from VEG room to Flower room this weekend and had bumped the EC to 1.2 with a feed the day before the move.

Every feed I have done is with plenty of runoff because my PH is rising and must be in mid 7's because my runoff is around 6.5 after going in at 5.5. Anyway...the DEF's are getting worse and want to get this figured out so I can flip in a couple weeks. I would love your help and input here to figure out what I'm doing wrong...and what to do to fix it. Again...I'm new to RW and Jacks 321.

Wondering if the Silica is causing some issues? I do let the silica mix and settle for hours before adding nutes. Also let nutes settle before finally adjustiong PH, and water temp at 72


Jacks recommends 2.4 EC, yet that strength seemed way too high, as I tried that in my first run. The plants were not happy and salt build up and pH were all over the place. Not a good run

Here are the stats:

Nutes and Media...hand feeding right now till I get some adapters for top plates this week for autodrip

RW 8x8x4 (using up my blocks)
Jacks 321 (1.2 EC @ 5.5 going in and 6.5 runoff)
Superthrive
Roots acell
Recharge
Cal Mag @ 2ml per gallon
TPS Silica

Room Environment
78 degrees
74 RH
850 C02
400 PPFD ( was at 350 in VEG Room)
18 on 6 off

Thanks Again...
 

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thumper60

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Hey all and thank you in advance for the help!...I'm new here and see that there is a forum for plant problems so here I am with my problem!

Trying to dial in my VEG in RW before flipping, and could use some help with some DEF's that are showing up!!.... (Starting second run in RW)

I have been feeding at about 1 EC @ 5.5PH then letting dry back for a couple days to let roots establish before going to auto feed with Growlink. This seemed to be the sweet spot for EC and the plants were looking pretty good (a big improvement). The EC would spike a bit after dry back as expected and the PH would climb a bit as well, but stayed fairy consistent, and was not seeing any real DEF's.

I started to feed daily a couple days ago and not letting dry back as much...coincidentally began seeing small signs of DEF in fans...mostly larger fans, but now spreading at bit. I moved my plants from VEG room to Flower room this weekend and had bumped the EC to 1.2 with a feed the day before the move.

Every feed I have done is with plenty of runoff because my PH is rising and must be in mid 7's because my runoff is around 6.5 after going in at 5.5. Anyway...the DEF's are getting worse and want to get this figured out so I can flip in a couple weeks. I would love your help and input here to figure out what I'm doing wrong...and what to do to fix it. Again...I'm new to RW and Jacks 321.

Wondering if the Silica is causing some issues? I do let the silica mix and settle for hours before adding nutes. Also let nutes settle before finally adjustiong PH, and water temp at 72


Jacks recommends 2.4 EC, yet that strength seemed way too high, as I tried that in my first run. The plants were not happy and salt build up and pH were all over the place. Not a good run

Here are the stats:

Nutes and Media...hand feeding right now till I get some adapters for top plates this week for autodrip

RW 8x8x4 (using up my blocks)
Jacks 321 (1.2 EC @ 5.5 going in and 6.5 runoff)
Superthrive
Roots acell
Recharge
Cal Mag @ 2ml per gallon
TPS Silica

Room Environment
78 degrees
74 RH
850 C02
400 PPFD ( was at 350 in VEG Room)
18 on 6 off

Thanks Again...
Dump the silca bump up the cal mag is what i would do.
 

deejay123

Well-Known Member
Hey all and thank you in advance for the help!...I'm new here and see that there is a forum for plant problems so here I am with my problem!

Trying to dial in my VEG in RW before flipping, and could use some help with some DEF's that are showing up!!.... (Starting second run in RW)

I have been feeding at about 1 EC @ 5.5PH then letting dry back for a couple days to let roots establish before going to auto feed with Growlink. This seemed to be the sweet spot for EC and the plants were looking pretty good (a big improvement). The EC would spike a bit after dry back as expected and the PH would climb a bit as well, but stayed fairy consistent, and was not seeing any real DEF's.

I started to feed daily a couple days ago and not letting dry back as much...coincidentally began seeing small signs of DEF in fans...mostly larger fans, but now spreading at bit. I moved my plants from VEG room to Flower room this weekend and had bumped the EC to 1.2 with a feed the day before the move.

Every feed I have done is with plenty of runoff because my PH is rising and must be in mid 7's because my runoff is around 6.5 after going in at 5.5. Anyway...the DEF's are getting worse and want to get this figured out so I can flip in a couple weeks. I would love your help and input here to figure out what I'm doing wrong...and what to do to fix it. Again...I'm new to RW and Jacks 321.

Wondering if the Silica is causing some issues? I do let the silica mix and settle for hours before adding nutes. Also let nutes settle before finally adjustiong PH, and water temp at 72


Jacks recommends 2.4 EC, yet that strength seemed way too high, as I tried that in my first run. The plants were not happy and salt build up and pH were all over the place. Not a good run

Here are the stats:

Nutes and Media...hand feeding right now till I get some adapters for top plates this week for autodrip

RW 8x8x4 (using up my blocks)
Jacks 321 (1.2 EC @ 5.5 going in and 6.5 runoff)
Superthrive
Roots acell
Recharge
Cal Mag @ 2ml per gallon
TPS Silica

Room Environment
78 degrees
74 RH
850 C02
400 PPFD ( was at 350 in VEG Room)
18 on 6 off

Thanks Again...
Hey bro,

Nice looking garden! The environment looks dialled in so I don’t think it would be any of the things mentioned above.

Going off the close ups I would go as far as saying it’s early signs of calcium deficiency.

look at the late pic on the canna guide, I think yours is showing early signs.
 

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Qsound

Active Member
Thanks guys!... I was thinking the same on both C def and dump the silica. Trying a bump in the Jacks part A and epsom, but no on the calnit, with 100ppm shot of calmag, and see if that fixes it.
 
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