Sedition and Treason

schuylaar · Jun 21, 2018

SB85 said:
The corruption will continue, being as too many are stuck playing team politics. The people of the USA need to start holding politicians who accept funding from certain groups accountable.

That HAS been the key..it’s like wrangling a wheelbarrow of cats though to make it stick.

schuylaar · Jun 21, 2018

Padawanbater2 said:
Crony capitalism currently has a stranglehold on American democracy, especially with Republicans and Trump in power. It's like hyperdrive since 2017.

That's why it's monumentally important to vote these people out of office, both Republicans and Democrats. The people being paid by special interests are going to represent them and ignore their constituents because they believe they need big money to fund their campaigns.

You haven't seen much done because most people don't understand or realize how this political game is played. That is the solution. Inform people on how American politics works. Get them to vote according to their actual conscience and not based on the corrupt values of a team whose only interest is consolidating political power.

+rep

schuylaar · Jun 21, 2018

Fogdog said:
The lawmakers I voted for are good progressive Democrats. Most Democratic lawmakers are good progressive lawmakers. You must be confusing "we" with "republican".

There’s no such thing as a Progressive Democratic.

You’re either one or the other- not both.

schuylaar · Jun 21, 2018

Sour Wreck said:
you don't have a fucking clue, do you?

you can play games and fuck other peoples lives up in 20 years when i am gone.

until then keep your brain in your ass, where it belongs...

Your answer was not appropriate.

Sativied · Jun 21, 2018

ttystikk said:
A great political thinker once said that a democracy either favors the people- social democracy- or it favors the money- capitalism. It cannot be both. I do wish I could find the source, because he was absolutely right.

Well, if you replace democracy with socialism it’s almost verbatim to several quotes from Hitler and Lenin and Marx but you said “great political thinker” so...

Fogdog · Jun 21, 2018

schuylaar said:
There’s no such thing as a Progressive Democratic.

You’re either one or the other- not both.

I know you can't understand this,

About 2/3 of Democrats in Congress are progressive because they reliably support progressive legislation.

Andrewk420 said:
Missouri, but close enough. She's as progressive as it gets in Missouri politics outside Kansas City or St. Louis.

Thanks for the correction, my bad. You get my point. The Bernie faction is agitating for California or New York-style liberals to run as Democrats in states like Missouri. They'd lose.

.

Unclebaldrick · Jun 21, 2018

schuylaar said:
Can I borrow $10?

Sure. Buy a clue.

schuylaar · Jun 21, 2018

Fogdog said:
I know you can't understand this,

About 2/3 of Democrats in Congress are progressive because they reliably support progressive legislation.

Thanks for the correction, my bad. You get my point. The Bernie faction is agitating for California or New York-style liberals to run as Democrats in states like Missouri. They'd lose.

.

what's a California/New York STYLE liberal? are you trying to say the word PROGRESSIVE? I don't think anyone has a good understanding of you..just an over-educated boujee.

schuylaar · Jun 21, 2018

Unclebaldrick said:
Sure. Buy a clue.

I'll need an extra $10 for that..

Fogdog · Jun 21, 2018

schuylaar said:
what's a California/New York STYLE liberal? are you trying to say the word PROGRESSIVE? I don't think anyone has a good understanding of you..just an over-educated boujee.

Clair McCaskil is probably the the most progressive politician that can win in MO. Or Montana.

schuylaar · Jun 21, 2018

Fogdog said:
Clair McCaskil is probably the the most progressive politician that can win in MO. Or Montana.

she's a dried out old cunt..fvck her! she's NOT a progressive!

SB85 · Jun 21, 2018

schuylaar said:
she's a dried out old cunt..fvck her! she's NOT a progressive!

Nixon isn't going to win the race out here, but she is doing a good at pushing Cuomo to change his tune on lots of issues.

Fogdog · Jun 21, 2018

schuylaar said:
she's a dried out old cunt..fvck her! she's NOT a progressive!

Compared to her Republican counterpart she is.

What you can't understand is that many states are like Missouri in that they won't elect your kind of progressive. In order to take back the House, Democrats are going to have to win in places like MO. The electorate of that state chooses its representatives. If you loony Bernsters have your way, there would be two Republican Senators from Missouri. Each would be leagues worse than McCaskil.

I expect the good progressive Congressmen from Oregon to work with her on issues where they can agree. She votes in favor of progressive issues 68% of the time. That's much better than her counterpart, Roy Blunt, who votes favorably for progress only 3% of the time. If I lived in MO, I'd hate her. Because I live in Oregon, I'm glad for her because her Republican replacement would be far worse. It's up to the people of Missouri to choose their reps. I don't know why you have such a hard time with the concept of local representation as a cornerstone of democracy.

schuylaar · Jun 21, 2018

SB85 said:
Nixon isn't going to win the race out here, but she is doing a good at pushing Cuomo to change his tune on lots of issues.

touche.

Andrewk420 · Jun 21, 2018

Fogdog said:
Compared to her Republican counterpart she is.

What you can't understand is that many states are like Missouri in that they won't elect your kind of progressive. In order to take back the House, Democrats are going to have to win in places like MO. The electorate of that state chooses its representatives. If you loony Bernsters have your way, there would be two Republican Senators from Missouri. Each would be leagues worse than McCaskil.

I expect the good progressive Congressmen from Oregon to work with her on issues where they can agree. She votes in favor of progressive issues 68% of the time. That's much better than her counterpart, Roy Blunt, who votes favorably for progress only 3% of the time. If I lived in MO, I'd hate her. Because I live in Oregon, I'm glad for her because her Republican replacement would be far worse. It's up to the people of Missouri to choose their reps. I don't know why you have such a hard time with the concept of local representation as a cornerstone of democracy.

You're right, and Roy Blunt is a horrible person and somehow a worse senator. I have never been a political activitist outside of marijuana law reform. But in 2015, I it did as "grass roots" as you can and went and made a sheet showing how much corporate money and from where that Roy Blunt takes (just that my dumbass could figure out), along with some unsavory facts about his business and personal dealings and went door knocking at maybe 50 houses in my neighborhood, just because I hate the guy so much.

My mom used to be "high up" the administrative side of the Harry S Truman Library and I've met some politicians (when I was a kid) through it. One of her favorite stories she used to tell was about me meeting Roy Blunt when I was 10 or so, and telling him (when he asked if I was going to vote for him when I was older) that he seemed too mean to vote for. I guess I've had it out for him since.

Fogdog · Jun 21, 2018

Andrewk420 said:
You're right, and Roy Blunt is a horrible person and somehow a worse senator. I have never been a political activitist outside of marijuana law reform. But in 2015, I it did as "grass roots" as you can and went and made a sheet showing how much corporate money and from where that Roy Blunt takes (just that my dumbass could figure out), along with some unsavory facts about his business and personal dealings and went door knocking at maybe 50 houses in my neighborhood, just because I hate the guy so much.

My mom used to be "high up" the administrative side of the Harry S Truman Library and I've met some politicians (when I was a kid) through it. One of her favorite stories she used to tell was about me meeting Roy Blunt when I was 10 or so, and telling him (when he asked if I was going to vote for him when I was older) that he seemed too mean to vote for. I guess I've had it out for him since.

Would I want McCaskil to be my congressperson? Hell no. But I'm not doing the choosing, Missouri is. I can accept the people of Missouri's choice for McCaskil and celebrate that it wasn't another effing publican.

I keep hearing complaints about how Democrats are the same as Republicans so "why vote at all". I wonder where that idea comes from? Makes me think that the Bernie for prez movement has become victim to right wing propaganda and attempts by Republicans to suppress the liberal vote.

LOL your story about what you said when you were ten. Too bad you couldn't vote then.

ttystikk · Jun 21, 2018

Sour Wreck said:
you don't have a fucking clue, do you?

you can play games and fuck other peoples lives up in 20 years when i am gone.

until then keep your brain in your ass, where it belongs...

Ah yes, because you KNOW HOW IT IS, don't you? The world according to CNN, right?

Lol

Sour Wreck · Jun 22, 2018

ttystikk said:
Ah yes, because you KNOW HOW IT IS, don't you? The world according to CNN, right?

Lol

no, the world of NEVER TRUMP.

ttystikk · Jun 22, 2018

Sour Wreck said:
no, the world of NEVER TRUMP.

Right. That sure seems to be working out well.

Which party doesn't take the donor cash, again?

Sour Wreck · Jun 23, 2018

ttystikk said:
Right. That sure seems to be working out well.

Which party doesn't take the donor cash, again?

are you claiming CNN is fake news?

you say you voted fort Bernie and Hillary, but a lot of times you sound like a trumptard.

Sedition and Treason

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Similar threads