Seedlings wilting over and look like there about to die! tried everything!

shawn705

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so my seedlings wont show any new signs of improvment,... there wilting over and look like there sick and dying... humidity was low so i put domes over them over night and they still look the same if not worse... the stems have turned pink/purple and redish color and the veins to the leafs are doing the same.. i cant post pics i have no camera atm... temps are between 70-87 throught out the day, never at a set temp always bouncing between. ive never had this [problem with my seedlings before and there in MG potting soil*(0.14,0.14,0.14) should i feed them a 1/8 strenght nute blend?:shock:
 

Sand4x105

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How close the light...
When did you water last...
No Nutes until rooting great, 10 days to 14 days [I start weakened water down mix at one week old on my clones]
Pictures would be good...
Tell us, did you over water, or under water...
You can re-plant the stems with some more soil...
Pix ?
 

shawn705

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How close the light...
When did you water last...
No Nutes until rooting great, 10 days to 14 days [I start weakened water down mix at one week old on my clones]
Pictures would be good...
Tell us, did you over water, or under water...
You can re-plant the stems with some more soil...
Pix ?
i cant post pics i got no camera, but the stem before the cotyledon is red like a dixie cup, and then the stem above the cotyledon between the first set of leaves is purple and growth has completly stopped, i might have over watterd about 3 days ago but the cups are back to normal and im just misting them every once ina while maing sure there not dry, my humidity is only at 20% im trying to get it back up i even put domes over the sum of the seedlings and it ddnt make a difference.. they are about 2 inches outta the soil, ive already transplanted once from a small started pot to the dixie cups. there are only 4 leaves, 6 including cotyledon
 

Dr Kynes

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i cant post pics i got no camera, but the stem before the cotyledon is red like a dixie cup, and then the stem above the cotyledon between the first set of leaves is purple and growth has completly stopped, i might have over watterd about 3 days ago but the cups are back to normal and im just misting them every once ina while maing sure there not dry, my humidity is only at 20% im trying to get it back up i even put domes over the sum of the seedlings and it ddnt make a difference.. they are about 2 inches outta the soil, ive already transplanted once from a small started pot to the dixie cups. there are only 4 leaves, 6 including cotyledon
soemtimes when a young plant has established it's leafs, it turns it's attention to growing roots for a while.

as long as they are not falling over, let them ride. mind the overwatering, stay your hand on the nutrients and watch.
 

shawn705

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soemtimes when a young plant has established it's leafs, it turns it's attention to growing roots for a while.

as long as they are not falling over, let them ride. mind the overwatering, stay your hand on the nutrients and watch.
what does that meen? stay your hand on the nutrients and watch? like u meen hold off for a bit? what about the discolored stems? leaves are kinda yelloish tinge to em as well, they just look "sick" know what i meen? i wish i could post pics, but what ur saying about the root system building up that kinda makes sence but why would my plant look sick whi;le doing that?
 

sunni

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again , its sooooooo unbelievably hard for us to diagnose problems properly without good information and photos its almost always guess work without a photo, everything has a camera attached to it now, ipod, cellphone,nintendo ds , ect ect
 

Dr Kynes

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what does that meen? stay your hand on the nutrients and watch? like u meen hold off for a bit? what about the discolored stems? leaves are kinda yelloish tinge to em as well, they just look "sick" know what i meen? i wish i could post pics, but what ur saying about the root system building up that kinda makes sence but why would my plant look sick whi;le doing that?
i mean, the number one killer of young plants is OVERWATERING, and the number two killer is Nutrient Toxicity.

do not just start doing shit willy nilly, water only when youre certain the moisture in the soil is low, and allow for good drainage. if you use a pencil or a cooking skewer you can puncha shitload of holes in the sides of the solo drinks cup all the way up, dozens of them, and this will help your plant grow, both above and below the soil. roots need air, not just water

miracle gro soil wil NOT need nutrients until youre on the third or 4th node in a solocup, and it's well past time to move them to a much larger pot.

if youre growijng in a solo cup you shouldnt even be thinking about nutrients unless your using strerile nutrient free products like Sunshine Mix, rockwool or coco and perlite. youll be root bound and dead from constriction long before the plant runs out of nutrients in a solo cup.

do NOT add fertilizers, do NOT over water, and do NOT freak out. just wait.

stems can be any of a number of cours and thos colours can change many times. stem colouration means very little as long as it's not Black. Black is always bad. or stark white, stark white is also always bad except for roots and pisitils .

your plants can look a little sickly when growing roots instead of foliage because they should be able to do both at the same time. your plant may need more light (cant tell, no pics) to support proper foliage growth and proper root growth, but when the plant must choose, it will usually grow roots first, and then start growing foliage when the root system is established. the reason is obvious, a plant that has too much foliage and not enough root falls over in the wind and dies, but a plant with more root than foliage is "well established" and can begin growing foiage at it's leisure.
 

shawn705

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again , its sooooooo unbelievably hard for us to diagnose problems properly without good information and photos its almost always guess work without a photo, everything has a camera attached to it now, ipod, cellphone,nintendo ds , ect ect
yah i know thats why i said twice i have no camera or phone atm, part of my bail conditions if u must know. but yah i gave all the info i could, stunned growth, at the 1st set of true leaves, slight yellowing and red/purple stems up top the veins of the leaves, humidity 20% temp 75-85F. for the 3rd time...
 

shawn705

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i mean, the number one killer of young plants is OVERWATERING, and the number two killer is Nutrient Toxicity.

do not just start doing shit willy nilly, water only when youre certain the moisture in the soil is low, and allow for good drainage. if you use a pencil or a cooking skewer you can puncha shitload of holes in the sides of the solo drinks cup all the way up, dozens of them, and this will help your plant grow, both above and below the soil. roots need air, not just water

miracle gro soil wil NOT need nutrients until youre on the third or 4th node in a solocup, and it's well past time to move them to a much larger pot.

if youre growijng in a solo cup you shouldnt even be thinking about nutrients unless your using strerile nutrient free products like Sunshine Mix, rockwool or coco and perlite. youll be root bound and dead from constriction long before the plant runs out of nutrients in a solo cup.

do NOT add fertilizers, do NOT over water, and do NOT freak out. just wait.

stems can be any of a number of cours and thos colours can change many times. stem colouration means very little as long as it's not Black. Black is always bad. or stark white, stark white is also always bad except for roots and pisitils .

your plants can look a little sickly when growing roots instead of foliage because they should be able to do both at the same time. your plant may need more light (cant tell, no pics) to support proper foliage growth and proper root growth, but when the plant must choose, it will usually grow roots first, and then start growing foliage when the root system is established. the reason is obvious, a plant that has too much foliage and not enough root falls over in the wind and dies, but a plant with more root than foliage is "well established" and can begin growing foiage at it's leisure.
thanks man very helpfull indeed
 

Dr Kynes

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yah i know thats why i said twice i have no camera or phone atm, part of my bail conditions if u must know. but yah i gave all the info i could, stunned growth, at the 1st set of true leaves, slight yellowing and red/purple stems up top the veins of the leaves, humidity 20% temp 75-85F. for the 3rd time...
your bail agreement stipulates thet you may not have a phone a camera or an atm card?

fucking Amish bail bondsmen are taking over the racket.





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These are their stories.
 

kushhound187

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Here in canada, if you are caught in possesion of enough mj, or caught dealing, or many other drug offences, they add bail conditions not allowin you to posses such items such as phones, or other electronics. it sucks, but thats part of how they fuck us around. and as far as your roblems, i am a seed fanatic. i am a farmer in the traditional sense. i sow my seeds, never clone. i can clone, but i dont like it. what you need to do is check the soil for fungus and toxins. Kill one of the seedlings and plant something else in the soil. if something else dies, pitch the soil. as the good dr k pointed out, overwatering is a seedling killer. soil should be moist. not sopping. as for humidity, my city is dry like yours, so thats not the problem. i never cover my seeds. as for feeding, NEVER feed a plant in its first 2 weeks, iunless you do so organicaly. try worm castings. full of aminos and nitrogen. and maybe a b vaitamin hormone. check out the mandala germ guide. follow ith every seed for sweet restults. and try starting under your mh conversion u got. if you still have issues, vm me, ill try and think of anythig else. i always tie my seedlings as soon as they start to branch, you might have got some flopy weak stems. thecolors on the stems are not a deffinite indicator of anything. sometimes colors apear and disapear. if the seeds in question are gh, let me know which strain. not that im worrid, but it may help with fixoing the problem. but one thing for sure, never feed babys. its not needed and its risky. have any of the leaves curled at all?
 

kushhound187

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And one more thing, wait to transplant, like when they are about 2 weeks since popping out tge ground. early transplants, or mistakes can cause what you are describing. however, i saw that kaia kush, i doubt its your fault, unless its the ffod.
 

shawn705

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And one more thing, wait to transplant, like when they are about 2 weeks since popping out tge ground. early transplants, or mistakes can cause what you are describing. however, i saw that kaia kush, i doubt its your fault, unless its the ffod.
its my GH white rhino fem seeds, and one CH9 blue lemon thai when i first opened the bag of Miracle Grow potting mix i noticd there was sum slight mold/fungus i guess from the moisture in the bag but i was told not to worry about it :S im thinking i mighta fucked up now with that
 

PurpleBuz

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i mean, the number one killer of young plants is OVERWATERING, and the number two killer is Nutrient Toxicity.

do not just start doing shit willy nilly, water only when youre certain the moisture in the soil is low, and allow for good drainage. if you use a pencil or a cooking skewer you can puncha shitload of holes in the sides of the solo drinks cup all the way up, dozens of them, and this will help your plant grow, both above and below the soil. roots need air, not just water

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best advice I have seen all day, especially for those that baby their plants.
 

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wow kush part of how they fuck us? you should be proud of your country, you live somewhere , where you have rights as a human being sorry they took away your ipod. oh my how fucking horrible that must be.
 

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best advice I have seen all day, especially for those that baby their plants.
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wow kush part of how they fuck us? you should be proud of your country, you live somewhere , where you have rights as a human being sorry they took away your ipod. oh my how fucking horrible that must be.
Heheheheh now thats funny
 

Astral Zoom

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@Shawn705,

Are these the same plants that had a few triploid starter leaves? If so, my girl with the same "mutation" or whatever had similar shitty slow growth at first... Im sure your babies are growing deep down to get the root mass big enough to be able to fix this stunnted upper growth. You say you transplanted to dixie cups? Like the tiny one shot paper cups? I dunno about that bro... the taproot tends to do best when it can grow straight down uninhibited. If those dixie cups are only like what, two inches deep?! then that may just stunt them even more imo...

Also, M-grow soil may be to rich and over feeding the new seedlings.. but your symptoms see rather odd to be as a result of that... hmmm and that moldy soil to start with cant be too heavenly of an enviroment for new baby sprouts, next time just mix that soil up a lot and seal the bag, then put it outside for a few days so the sun can sterilize the soil 100%
 
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