Seeds... do u get what you pay for?

jasno

jasno

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I would like to hear from people who have experience with growing different seed companies seeds.

I am wondering if you really do get what you pay for in the end when it comes to seeds.

If I were to grow a strain from a company that cost me $100 for 10 seeds,
...and also grew a Nirvana companies seed which cost me $25 for 10 seeds

...would i notice a huge difference in the 2 plants, and in the bud?

(imagine both seeds get perfect nurturing throughout the plants life, so thats not a factor)


i know we can all speculate, but i am hoping some people who actual experience will give us their thoughts.


thanks :leaf:
 
heisman80

heisman80

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true i was wondering the same thing being that their are so many companies all fighting for dollars (or euros) i guess someone is going to make the quailty a littler lower to cater to people with lower amount to spend that how i look at (as that is how it is with everything else)
 
jasno

jasno

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heisman80 said:
true i was wondering the same thing being that their are so many companies all fighting for dollars (or euros) i guess someone is going to make the quailty a littler lower to cater to people with lower amount to spend that how i look at (as that is how it is with everything else)
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of course, but we need to know if in the end.... if being cheap kinda backfires.
 
Bagelthief

Bagelthief

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yes, im curious to know the answer to this as well. im not sure if this was included in the original question, but im also curious to know if a cheaper seed of the same strain is compairable to a more expensive seed from a more expensive dealer...
 
Rocky Top High

Rocky Top High

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Thats a good question and I feel you will get several different answers. In my case, the name brand beans give you more stability. What I mean is, you only get a couple of phenos per strain. With knock-off beans, you get good smoke but you may have to go through several phenos until you find one you really like. For a new grower, this can be frustrating. Patience is not something new growers have very much of. :bigjoint:

When I first started, I bought the knock-offs. Then when i gained experience, I bought some name brand beans but I shopped around and found good strains that were less expensive. An example is Belladonna from Paradise seeds. They were like 45.00 US dollars for 10 beans. I am telling ya, there was a HUGE difference from what I had been buying.

One of my favorite knock-off seed banks is marijuana-seeds.nl. I still have some of their genetics in my veg room to this day. You just gotta be patient until you find a good pheno, then you make her a mom.

Serious Seeds has some killer strains that won't break the bank and will give you good herb for years. They only have 5 strains but the ones I have grown are freakin awesome.

Kali Mist
Ak47
White Russian

Just give them a try and I promise, you will see a difference in knock-offs and brand name. My bottom line is...I have a place in my garden for both types of beans. You just gotta do your homework and shop wisely. One bit of advice, don't get pulled in with the latest, greatest foo-foo strain. There are some great strains from name breeders that are a good buy. Sorry for the rant but I just got blazed with some AK47. :leaf:
 
Bagelthief

Bagelthief

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dont be sorry for that bro! i dont consider that a rant. to me, a rant is a drawn out, boring ass, heap of bullshit. this is pure, raw, unfiltered, gained-through-first-hand, KNOWLEDGE!! +rep.
 
iamthatguy

iamthatguy

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Rocky Top High said:
Thats a good question and I feel you will get several different answers. In my case, the name brand beans give you more stability. What I mean is, you only get a couple of phenos per strain. With knock-off beans, you get good smoke but you may have to go through several phenos until you find one you really like. For a new grower, this can be frustrating. Patience is not something new growers have very much of. :bigjoint:

When I first started, I bought the knock-offs. Then when i gained experience, I bought some name brand beans but I shopped around and found good strains that were less expensive. An example is Belladonna from Paradise seeds. They were like 45.00 US dollars for 10 beans. I am telling ya, there was a HUGE difference from what I had been buying.

One of my favorite knock-off seed banks is marijuana-seeds.nl. I still have some of their genetics in my veg room to this day. You just gotta be patient until you find a good pheno, then you make her a mom.

Serious Seeds has some killer strains that won't break the bank and will give you good herb for years. They only have 5 strains but the ones I have grown are freakin awesome.

Kali Mist
Ak47
White Russian

Just give them a try and I promise, you will see a difference in knock-offs and brand name. My bottom line is...I have a place in my garden for both types of beans. You just gotta do your homework and shop wisely. One bit of advice, don't get pulled in with the latest, greatest foo-foo strain. There are some great strains from name breeders that are a good buy. Sorry for the rant but I just got blazed with some AK47. :leaf:
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Thank you for answering with experience and not something you read!:leaf:
So you got your AK from serious and was it more on the sativa side or indica side? I am looking for an AK thats more indica traites like shorter and couch locky.
 
Rocky Top High

Rocky Top High

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Thanks guys! The AK that I am currently growing is more sativa. It is suppose to be easy to grow but it needs constant attention. I am just an average grower but I get some very good yields out of it. After they germed, I placed them in Fox Farms Light Warrior and they were very sensitive to nute burn. Ever since, I have to go lighter with my nutes on the AK than my other plants but it is worth it.

Another difference I have found in Name brand vs knock off is the yields. I understand that some of that is due to strain. However, I bought WW from marijuana-seeds and it was a very strong and vibrant plant. I got about 1 zip per plant. Then I got some Seedsman WW and my yields went up to 1.5-2 zips per plant. Same conditions, same nutes, same veg time. Both plants were put into 12/12 at 15 inches. The Seedsman grew to about 36-40 inches and the marijuan-seeds grew to about 28-32 inches. The ONLy difference was genetics.

On the other side of the coin...I got some Afghan from marijuana-seeds and it produced about 1.5 zips while the Afghan I got from Soma only produced about 1 zip. Also take into consideration my abilities to grow. I am sure others could give different results but these are based on my experiences.
 
jasno

jasno

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Thanks Rocky Top.

Hopefully a few more people can chime in on this question. Seems to be on a few peoples minds.

Its kinda crazy I can find some seeds that are like $300 and others that are $25.

Personally I cant afford a ton on seeds, but I definitely dont mind paying a little more if the quality in bud is that much better.

I know a lot of people wouldnt wanna spend 3 months growing something and save a few bucks on the seeds if the plant was gonna be weak compared to another seed.

THANKS AGAIN for the replies, peace
 
tckfui

tckfui

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definetly worth it man!!!!!
in my opinion it would still be worth it if seeds 1,000 bucks for 10, if you think about it 100-300 for a pack of seeds is nothing compared to what you are going to get out of it. they are selling you the potential to grow over a million dollars worth of pot a year for less than 500 bucks, now talk about a DEAL!!!!
I read somone on this site say, its like if mcdonalds were to sell you a franchise for 500 bucks... not a great analogy, but good enough :P
there are some companies that ask for 30 bucks for 10 seeds, and the quality difference is pretty drastic. even though there are some good seeds for less than 50 if you look in the right places.
the seed market is great for everyone, the companies get to grow weed and sell all the stuff that they dont want!!! (not saying they dont need seeds :P ) and us the consumer gets a great deal and the potentail to free ourselves from the wrath of the slow drug dealers, or become one yourself if you choose to do so.
ah yes, Mariuana such a lucrative buisness, and everybody wins.

RTH does have a great point, there are defiently some good seeds for great prices out there, the hard part is shovling through all the shit to find a good one. but there are some good ones :) mmmm
 
ThE sAtIvA hIgH

ThE sAtIvA hIgH

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i kind of think like this , imagine your the owner of a seed bank .... some dude orders ten 'super duper fuck ya momma ' seeds but damn i just run out of them and they was my most expensive seeds , ermmm ill send him some 'skinnyplant i found growing in the crack of my ass ' seeds instead , he will never know the difference .......would you ?
 
la9

la9

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No I would not, if I didn't have them I didn't have them, I have a reputation to uphold. People work hard for their money and if they pay for the best they deserve the best.

Thinking like that is why the world sucks the way it does nowadays.
 
ThE sAtIvA hIgH

ThE sAtIvA hIgH

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nah mate thinking like THAT is why buisness men get rich ,in life ONLY THE DO GOOD HONEST GUY GETS SCREWED OVER , its a hard pill to swallow but its true , there will allways be someone lurking in the shadows to pounce on any weakness you may have , nature dosent allow for weakness , honesty is just a weakness in todays society and anyone in buisness will tell you that .
 
la9

la9

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I prefer to be HONEST and don't think I can change into a lying piece of shit.

I understand seems like people think they can do what they want as long as you didn't get it in writing. I prefer the old days of a handshake.

A MAN IS ONLY AS GOOD AS HIS WORD

that is how I was raised.
 
tckfui

tckfui

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la9 said:
No I would not, if I didn't have them I didn't have them, I have a reputation to uphold. People work hard for their money and if they pay for the best they deserve the best.

Thinking like that is why the world sucks the way it does nowadays.
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its true, sensi didnt get to where it is today by selling ditchweed seeds, they understand the value of a customer, and a customer will only come back again and again if they got good seeds, sell them bad seeds their only going to buy one pack and never come back, and eventualy with the help of google the site will fail. you are right, nature dosn't alow for weeknes, and that is why so many seed banks with this view of the trade fail.
a good buisness man always knows the right tome to lie and cheat, you do that on the packaging! 6 weeks flowering time, hehe I wish
 
la9

la9

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People were talking about trading seeds with other forum members, at least we know one person we can mark off the trading list now.
 
stoverdro

stoverdro

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I think seeds are the same as any other product. higher rated seed companies put more money in the development and production of a seed. this would then make the price of the seed go up. that means that with some they raise the price of the seed cause of the money they spent on the seed. to get a high quality product you need to pay a little bit more.its like froot loops and the generic knock off brand. people consider it the same but the generic can never keep up with the name brand. the more expensive seeds put more time in the breeding of the plants they get the seeds from.
and then theres cheap ass seed companies that sell cheap ass seeds for way more than their worth....i havent tried any yet but im gonna start with green house seed company through attitude seed bank. i just hope i get the greenhouse seeds.lol. they seem to make it more of a science as well as a business...
 
Rocky Top High

Rocky Top High

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ThE sAtIvA hIgH said:
nah mate thinking like THAT is why buisness men get rich ,in life ONLY THE DO GOOD HONEST GUY GETS SCREWED OVER , its a hard pill to swallow but its true , there will allways be someone lurking in the shadows to pounce on any weakness you may have , nature dosent allow for weakness , honesty is just a weakness in todays society and anyone in buisness will tell you that .
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Karma will kick this type of "businessman" square in the junk too. Trustme, I am an average grower at best but I would know the difference if I was sent "ass crack" seeds instead of the ones I ordered. Hell, read this forum. Most new guys who order and recieve good strains will bitch like a school girl if they don't germ. It's ALWAYS the breeders fault not the new guy who read about germing his seeds in kerosene because it was suppose to make more female seeds. Now his seeds are shit but it was the breeders fault not his.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know the difference between good and bad genetics. No doubt, in the culture we all operate in, it's a buyer beware business but honesty and common sense will always prevail. history has proved this time and time again.
 
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