seems like alot of souviener's are getting found by custum's?!

racerboy71 said:

not trying to be a dick here jogro, but you sound a bit naive about how the u.s. government works.. if there's a dollar to be made, you can bet your sweet ass they'll have their greedy lil hands in it.. and what better way to make money than by stealing drugs and reselling them..
and you've never heard of iran contra? where do you think the drugs that we were trading for arms came from? i'll bet you any amount of money that they weren't bought, that's for sure..
read gud's post, he seems to know what's up.

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For real not to mention the CIA selling coke when crack was first coming out their are a lot of kingpins who claim they got it from the CIA which I bet A lot was from Pablo Escobar's stash and all the others our special forces took out. Check out Afghanistan the war starts suddenly they are the biggest producers of Heroin and the last few times I've seen dope it was not the Mexican black tar or the Asian white nothing but the brown afghan. Also we basically have all the big oil producers by the balls we had Kuwait and Saudi Arabia since Desert Storm now we took over Iraq and handed Libya over to the rebels. The US government is the biggest badest international criminal organization in the world whether you believe it or not.

jogro I know for a fact I seen a whole simi trailer load of nike shoe get dumped into a land fill because someone didn`t pay the import tax. the reason they hold the items is for whom ever to have a chance to dispute the agents claim it shouldn`t be here for what ever reason. if it were evidence it would have to be a law broken and charges being filed. read the customs website.

Chronic Masterbator said:

Nice shades how much?? And where do you get em??

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http://www.hydrofarm.com/catalog.php?category=34&selbrand=181

hydrofarm sells several types that compare with method7 at less coin $.

blue , more like method7 protection and light canceling
green , more like welding shades for even better protection

i got mine on flee bay.

maybe $60 to 70$ (ish w/ delivery).

worth every penny.

[video=youtube;vNaO913FYTs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNaO913FYTs[/video]

bluntmassa1 just to reinforce your point the whole iran contra deal was about selling drugs to pay for arms. there are countless books about the british government links to heroin. the whole reason behind the arrest of manuel noriega was he was the main man for hiding the drug money in south america while he was on the cia payroll. there's to much money on the table for them not to be involved. that's money they can use to put in these puppet government's, over throws or whatever hidden from the public eye.

Just tracked my first order of the 3 and it sat in chi town for 3 days. bad sign? I've never actually tracked them while they were in transit so idk. its in my town today so it should be here before too long so i guess we will see! this shit is to stressful lol

if i can go buy a 5th of ever clear right now at the corner store why the fuck does customs care about my lil ole beans? Is this shit meant to drive us to the edge? cause its sure working.......

HGK420 said:

if i can go buy a 5th of ever clear right now at the corner store why the fuck does customs care about my lil ole beans?

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What it is, is a pay check, and those collecting that pay check have deemed their lifes desires, family, etc., more important than you and yours, so they take those beans and collect their pay check at the end of the week. They stand for nothing, so whether they agree with what they are doing or not, they will continue to do it, like most cops, simply because it selfishly puts food on their own table. Doesn't matter if they think it's morally right or wrong, fuckers are still doing it for their own benefit so toss them ALL into the same pit.

gudkarma said:

http://www.hydrofarm.com/catalog.php?category=34&selbrand=181

hydrofarm sells several types that compare with method7 at less coin $.

blue , more like method7 protection and light canceling
green , more like welding shades for even better protection

i got mine on flee bay.

maybe $60 to 70$ (ish w/ delivery).

worth every penny.

[video=youtube;vNaO913FYTs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNaO913FYTs[/video]

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i got those a couple weeks ago off amazon, and yes they are awesome and very worth it

I will be ordering some of those glasses next week. I've seen them before, but never for $17.99 so I'm gonna jump on that and give them a try. I think I'm gonna fall in love.

I gotta agree spandy, I don't get mad at the guys for doing their jobs and taking the beans. I do get mad about the little notes and shit they have been adding, that is not their job that is them making a point of being assholes.

HGK420 said:

Just tracked my first order of the 3 and it sat in chi town for 3 days. bad sign? I've never actually tracked them while they were in transit so idk. its in my town today so it should be here before too long so i guess we will see! this shit is to stressful lol

if i can go buy a 5th of ever clear right now at the corner store why the fuck does customs care about my lil ole beans? Is this shit meant to drive us to the edge? cause its sure working.......

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Yeh, I didn't track orders the first couple times. I used the Tude on my first orders back in December. I started using SOS after reading a few posts about customs seizures. Mine spent 5 days at LA ISC and it was opened and inspected last time (I got the green tape), but SOS stealth worked! The order before that last one, cleared LA ISC almost the same day it arrived and didn't have the tape.
I would say your package was probably opened. If you used a stealthy company, you should be ok. If you used the Tude, you just got a cool T-shirt and some awesome empty breeders packs.
I love the Tude's selection, search functions, prices and freebies, I just can't understand why they haven't even tried to conceal their product?
That tells me they don't give a shit, it's just a game of numbers and they are not concerned with your satisfaction. They are satisfied with their system so they don't care. The numbers of acceptable losses, labor costs, profit margins add up for them. If these seizures start to create losses, I'm sure they will change their methods.
Not because of the inconvenience it causes customers to have your order seized, or to provide a higher level of service, but because if effects their bottom line.
Every company deserves to make money in this free market society, but as consumers with many choices, why shop at one that doesn't even try?

to get beans that arnt anywhere else! silver mountain had a special bring back the last few packs to the mug shop deal. had to get in on it! if things keep being as dicey as they are i probably won't ever use the tude again. i doubt the tudes gonna go down like that tho i sense a change in packaging coming.

i ordered from nirvana and got mine amen

The stealth that attitude uses only works if customs doesn't open the package, so really, there is nothing "stealthy" about their packages, at all, just an inconspicuous package like that other thousands upon thousands going through that day at customs that everyone is hoping doesn't get searched is all it is. Even with stealth packaging options and the beans removed from breeders packs and repackaged, if you have more than one type of bean coming, they are still going to have to put them in mini baggies and label them so you know who is who, which cannot be hidden at all inside of a wallet, mug, shirt, etc, and will just be simply wrapped up inside. If its' checked by customs, the shit is literally going to fall out when they open the package.

Now, if you ordered a couple beans of the same strain and they stuffed them into the cracks of the seeming on a wallet or the like, then that's what I would consider somewhat stealthy. But you guys that are getting multiple strains, I don't see how it can be made stealthy within the same packaging in the event that the package is opened considering the few stealth options that are offered. Maybe if they shipped these things over inside of a small toy or radio, then we are talking an actual attempt at stealth.

I didn't even order a wallet so I don't know why they sent it but hey thanks anyway lol. I highly doubt it had anything what so ever with them getting though.

You know those little cheap dollar store pin ball games that are like 1 inch by inch and you roll the little bb's into the holes.....yeah, shit like that is cheap and could be gotten away with for a time period, and then you move on. Some of these companies have been using the same "stealth" procedures for years, and it's not about stealth at all. It's about a 50 cent wallet that you pay 10 bucks for thinking it's going to get you your beans, that they buy by the thousands and pay pennies for compared to what the consumer pays.

It is most definitely a numbers game, it's called business.

"A new car built by my company leaves somewhere traveling at 60 mph. The rear differential locks up. The car crashes and burns with everyone trapped inside. Now, should we initiate a recall? Take the number of vehicles in the field, A, multiply by the probable rate of failure, B, multiply by the average out-of-court settlement, C. A times B times C equals X. If X is less than the cost of a recall, we don't do one"

I ordered a shirt, not for stealth, but so if my shit gets seized I'm covered.

I only use the stealth option for the guarantee. Gives me piece of mind if they don't make it. I tried stealth and no stealth got my beans fine. Also the tracking is horrible. I got my package and it said it was still in transit. So no sense really tracking it. I only track to give me a estimate on when I will receive my beans.

To be honest I wish I can get my hands on the cut only strains, like headband, gsc, any of the original cutonly strains to be honest would make me happy.

Living in the deep south... makes it hard. Pretty much have to make a road trip for some decent clones.

I completely agree, I order that way for the guarantee, not the tshirt. That being said I will be using a different method next time Tshirt has to be the least stealthy of the options. I also agree that the small the order really the better. That is what I think was my issue with the first one that ever got stopped, I ordered like 4-5 packs and spent like $200 and then got literally about 25 freebies which would have been very bulky. What can I say I had a great strain come from a freebie once so I'm a sucker for them .

Edit: I'm very excited as I'm about to move about 50 miles from Michigan which should put me close enough to make some friends .

Oh I hear ya on that one. Just don't know if I should go to CA or CO. I just hope its not hard to obtain them. I got a sweet satori I kept around for awhile And a nice super critical sensi star pheno. But I really want a cheese cut or girl scout cookie cut. Think anyone out thier would be willing to trade for cuts are beans I make in crosses?? I'm looking for a strain to help my RA pain but let's me handle daily activity without couch lock.

THEY MADE IT!!!!!! silver mountain in hand! 1 pack came through takes alot of pressure of the other ones incoming still......

weird side note, my mug didn't make it. it was just another GDP mug I've alrdy got one so no biggy but i tell you what, my heart dropped when i pulled it out of the box and heard broken glass. thought for sure they took my shit and smashed my mug!

imagine the stash of seeds at us customs from all these seized packages. itd be like a goldmine to growers if they dint destroy em.