Seen many posts flaming Advanced Nutrients.Anyone had good or better than good result

Hi,

I'm feeling a bit crossed here. I just started my 2nd grow, first Hydro Grow. I decided to do a DWC and to get some nutes that wouldn't make my hair fall out from stress and dosage calculations... I jumped into the Advanced Nutrients Sensi A+B,B-52,and trying to debate if i go for VooDoo juice or start changing my brand. I've subscribed to a few different sites, and everywhere i go i learn more and more bad things about the owner of Adv; Nutrients. But i never learn anything bad about a Adv. Nutrients Push/ Grow. But on the flip side i see they are normally a bit more expensive, and I have not heard of anyone ranting about an exceptional grow thanks to Advanced Nutrients either... So If you have grown, are growing, will grow, saw a grow, using Advanced Nutrients (especially if it was a grow using the same as me. The let me know. I have a whole thing left of sense grow but maybe i don't have to buy the flowering kit if i get info in time..

So far i have to say in defense of the Sensi Grow I have totally not taken care of PPM nor replenished my 9 liters of solution for 2-2.5 weeks, even after losing 2/3rds of the res the plants are still doing very well

Thanks to everyone in advance,


Ciao,
Pure...

I changed over to Advanced about a year ago. I use the Sensi A&B - grow and bloom. Before changing over I was using Supernatural in both soil and hydro. I now use most of the Advanced line and am very happy with the results. All growing is a personal experience - and mine has been enhanced by changing base neuts.

Hey genisis,

Cool Beans. Nice to hear you've had a life changing experience dude, but could you share some pics. I mean dude, I'ml on board for the adv Nute ride also. Since I hadn't any replies i just went ahead and bought the VooDoo Juice. So I'm on the Sensi Grow regime with B-52 and VooDoo. My pics are under my sig. It's nothing impressive yet but once in the scrog I hope to turn some heads. Well see dude POST adv nutes pics!! No rhetoric!! Pics Pics Pics... I'm definetly going to keep posting pics through this grow. So at least I will have a serious testimonial!!

Ciao,
Pure...

Voodoo is great stuff, Clones and young plant really like it...JR

People bash advanced because they know better than to pay the prices they charge for nutes that can be had for cheaper. You're going to grow nice plants with just about any quality nutrient out there (AN included), the question is; why pay more for something that will not out perform the competition? Anyways, I'm not going to stick around to bash AN, after all, it's your money.

Very True Bro...

it is my money but as you may recall i initially asked for information, so as to formulate a rational for staying with AN or moving to another reputable brand. Dude, i even said I wanted to get the information before the flowering of my plants so i can either go with another or just shell out for the AN Sensi Bloom A+B, and then of course there are the additives x2 that they are suggesting in the online nutrient calculator.

I've checked out your purple "Stuff" and it kinda sent shivers down my spine!!! Nice push dude. i gotta go back and give some rep on the effort!
Back to my point. In your grow you used nutes why not chime in with your advice? You can see from my grow I'm trying to save money, get good material, and I'm not all that fucking experienced so.....
IF the word 'Bashing' totally offended you I'm sorry but ... Dude it's just a word... All that nice bud can't you like kinda chill a bit more??? I'm so totally not the enemy just here for advice.....

Ciao,
Pure...

My advice to anyone would be to understand simple plant nutrition. Growing healthy plants is about the 17 essential elements like N, P, K, calcium, magnesium and sulfur. Micro nutes like Iron, copper, boron, manganese, etc all have a roll in plant nutrition and nutrient uptake. Before anyone buys an expensive additive, look to see what's in that additive and ask yourself; can my plants actually benefit from this to the point where it justifies the cost? I like 3 part systems and use GH myself. I like and use several of their additives because when using them, I'm either getting the NPK ratio that I like or am getting things like sea kelp or natural chelates that my plants/roots can use.

With nutrients, complete plant nutrition is key but easy-of-use is also a component which is why I'm testing DynaGro. It's a one-stop-shop for everything your plants need to perform well. Plus the pH never moves and never needs adjusted. I also use botanicare and some of their additives in the dirt but they can be a PITA to work with as I always need to pH adjust every gallon i water with. I'm not sure what specific info you're looking for as I know better than to spend hard earned money on over-priced nutes and cannot help you with the brand you're referring to. But as a whole, there are some great grows around here with dirt cheap nutrients because those growers are supplying good nutrition.

https://www.rollitup.org/nutrients/276324-nutes-budget.html

https://www.rollitup.org/nutrients/299574-jacks-classic-vs-advanced-vs.html

Good links:

http://www.ces.ncsu.edu/depts/hort/consumer/quickref/fertilizer/nutri_def.html

http://www.totalgro.com/concepts.htm

O-K Dude,

Thanks. I guess you kinda hit it on the head. I'm looking for ease of use with proper nutrients. Kinda no brainer stuff. I purchased the Jose Cervantes book back at a cannibus cup in 03 i think. I've also a few e books outlining nutritional needs. But to be honest! I don't want to know ALL of that I figure if I'm gonna pay then I may as well not have to work! The Adv Nutes ahd that nifty online calculator, and you supposedly dont have to adjust the pH (that's not true at least with MY sensi Grow) But i'm gonna follow your thread on Dyna-Gro If it is as good as your expecting maybe that'll be my flowering nute line..

Thanks bro..


Ciao,
Pure...

Pure said:

But i'm gonna follow your thread on Dyna-Gro If it is as good as your expecting maybe that'll be my flowering nute line..

Thanks bro..


Ciao,
Pure...

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I'd be glad to have you follow along and applaud your due-diligence.

i always used only advanced nutrients... at first I used the charts in the back of the bottles AND I BURNED THE FUCK OUTTA MY PLANTS (I grow Hydro in bins) but then when I went on the AN website I found charts there that were totally different (about 70% less concentrated in the veg and 30% in bud OMFG I had overnute problems all of the lol) .. Sensi A and B will automatically ph your water to 5.6 SHARP which is fuken awesome... but conoisseur AndB will NOT ... also AN REVIVE helped me alot.. great product... can use as foliar spray too... voodoo juice gave me INSANE results but its real shit so be prepared to smell the real farm

When I grow in hydro I always use the 3 part in veg, connoisseur in flower, voodoo juice, bud blood, big bud and bud candy. I am happy with my results using those AN nutes.

Folks Pics are worth a thousand words. @ kimber45acp thats a lot of chems just for a grow. I'd think advanced nutrients wouldn't need so many additives or it's not too advanced eh??

Ciao,
Pure...

if you dont have much exp growing i sure wouldnt start off using super expensive nutes like AN

Hey um CrazyBudz.. buddy,

That is a matter of opinion. In fact some people that have no experience may be duped into listening to the marketing hype (like me). And my purchase at this point I can honestly say was made mainly because I dont have much experience growing. Had i'dd been better educated in the nute world i may have saved half my money but.....


Ciao,
Pure...

I can ease your pain a little with 10% off any advanced nutes you get from me.

I have to agree with homie, I have a buddy using Advanced with great results. He was using Connoisseur originally and then switched to Organic. I myself am using Foxfarm. The other day he was over and I had lots of compliments on how big my colas are and how many nodes and bud my babies are producing and that mine look like they are gonna yield more. Were both growing the same OG#18 from the same mother with C02 injection. I'm gonna be getting 3-4 ozs per plant.

Save your money! Use Foxfarm or something

homebrewer said:

People bash advanced because they know better than to pay the prices they charge for nutes that can be had for cheaper. You're going to grow nice plants with just about any quality nutrient out there (AN included), the question is; why pay more for something that will not out perform the competition? Anyways, I'm not going to stick around to bash AN, after all, it's your money.

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For what it's worth I gave the sensi 2-part a run in the past on a flood and drain set-up. I've been using GH 3-part for long time, so I know what to expect with my set-up. I ran the sensi 2-part by itself at around 750 - 800 ppm's, the results were good. Now with the 3-part, just following the instructions on the back of the bottle, the ppm's would come out around 1100-1150. With the same strain the GH yeilded 20~something grams more and had a slighty better smell and flavor. Now if I would have run the sensi at stronger rate would it have made a difference? That's my expeirence with it, hope it is somewhat useful.

Now if you're interested in why so many people don't like AN check this link out. http://www.integralhydro.com/advancednutrients.html it does read a little weird, but you get use to it. There is a couple of lab anaylsis of sensi 2-part in there that show how AN likes to reformulate and water down their stuff.

Pure said:

Hi,

I'm feeling a bit crossed here. I just started my 2nd grow, first Hydro Grow. I decided to do a DWC and to get some nutes that wouldn't make my hair fall out from stress and dosage calculations... I jumped into the Advanced Nutrients Sensi A+B,B-52,and trying to debate if i go for VooDoo juice or start changing my brand. I've subscribed to a few different sites, and everywhere i go i learn more and more bad things about the owner of Adv; Nutrients. But i never learn anything bad about a Adv. Nutrients Push/ Grow. But on the flip side i see they are normally a bit more expensive, and I have not heard of anyone ranting about an exceptional grow thanks to Advanced Nutrients either... So If you have grown, are growing, will grow, saw a grow, using Advanced Nutrients (especially if it was a grow using the same as me. The let me know. I have a whole thing left of sense grow but maybe i don't have to buy the flowering kit if i get info in time..

So far i have to say in defense of the Sensi Grow I have totally not taken care of PPM nor replenished my 9 liters of solution for 2-2.5 weeks, even after losing 2/3rds of the res the plants are still doing very well

Thanks to everyone in advance,


Ciao,
Pure...

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I've always liked Sensi A&B, works well for me too. No bad experiences from it yet...I wish I could share photos, but my woman would kill me.

All I can say is that Advanced Nutrients is a strong lineup and while I don't always use Voodoo Juice, it's certainly worked well in the times that I have. I think having strong base nutes is the best starting point, but adding on more nutes tends to be helpful as well.

I think a lot of people flame AN because they have the wrong impression that you NEED to use all of the nutes that they sell, all at once. But that's really not the case. And experienced growers know better. People seem to think that a company strongly trying to sell what they are selling is some sort of travesty.

Uh, no.

You just need to think for yourself what makes the most sense to you as a grower.

Hydro is so easy with AN too, okay, well, not easy easy. I would suggest you use the Advanced Nutrients calculator on their site since you can just adjust the different sorts of grows to find out what you need to use for the grow and the best results possible.

good luck...

surphin said:

For what it's worth I gave the sensi 2-part a run in the past on a flood and drain set-up. I've been using GH 3-part for long time, so I know what to expect with my set-up. I ran the sensi 2-part by itself at around 750 - 800 ppm's, the results were good. Now with the 3-part, just following the instructions on the back of the bottle, the ppm's would come out around 1100-1150. With the same strain the GH yeilded 20~something grams more and had a slighty better smell and flavor. Now if I would have run the sensi at stronger rate would it have made a difference? That's my expeirence with it, hope it is somewhat useful.

Now if you're interested in why so many people don't like AN check this link out. http://www.integralhydro.com/advancednutrients.html it does read a little weird, but you get use to it. There is a couple of lab anaylsis of sensi 2-part in there that show how AN likes to reformulate and water down their stuff.

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Thanks everyone for giving their view.
@ surphin thanks for the actual ppm counts. I will take that into consideration as soon as I learn how to read my meter ... I recal that vladxp also mentioned that he used the recommended formula and burned his plants. But again I followed the site instructions and took a count with my EC tested but since it counts in ms and ppt (of course) now i have to find out how to xlate to ppm/EC..

I have used advanced nutrients and really like them, however, i am slowly using more and more dutch master gold series now and have excellent results with less additives. (however, i still use bud candy and bud ignitor)