Septoria Resistant Strains

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mandocat

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keup.taylor said:
looks like you can't get the work f2's right now, but salvisa and beshear is available. Any advantage to beshear over salvisa? Thanks for your input. ANyone selling salvisa pollen?
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Beshear was a good producing plant for me, the pheno I had leaned tropical fruit where as Salvisa went in a cheese direction. Balanced hybrid effects much like Salvisa. I imagine there are more expressions within these plants than what I saw. This was Bashear last Sept.Bashear (4).jpg
 
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keup.taylor

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mandocat said:
Beshear was a good producing plant for me, the pheno I had leaned tropical fruit where as Salvisa went in a cheese direction. Balanced hybrid effects much like Salvisa. I imagine there are more expressions within these plants than what I saw. This was Bashear last Sept.View attachment 5418099
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Nice...looks like a 1.5 pd'r.....with some chicken scratching around the base.....what a pain, eh, I have the same problem....is that like 4 toppings by july 1 or so?

it does look like it has a little on her, but you are like at harvest in that pic and no septoria is on your flower leaves, key...... any veg spraying at all for that girl?..... as I said to my grow partner yesterday, "we may have to run a IPM spray program in veg, ugh!". Looking at your pics from last year, looks like the Salvisa was a little better than Beshear for Septoria resistance. Hey, in tough years, if I could get stuff to end flower with that much leafage, that be great.

after reviewing all my plants yesterday.... I am seeing septoria set in a little on the Tropicanna Poison, but still minimal. She has some other problem emerging with this tiny crab like bug on the underside of the leaf.... was in the clone cutting that didn;t take...... odd those little crabby things only went after the fast flowering strains in the clone closet (the tropicanna poison and the Gorilla cookies FF)......My big Gorilla cookies FF is struggling , but she's fully larfed and spread out now, so it's a knock on wood (hate that, my 1000 gallon spot has my most vulnerable genetics -- so I got a real big plant with real big problems).....I don;t do any synthetic feeding.... just compost teas and top dressing organics. The other 2 GCFF's are smaller in 50 gal pots, seem less problematic, and likely different pheno's than the big girl (different stalk, node, and leaf development)....

Candy store... holding up ok after a humid stretch, Made of Honor, hanging tough - we have a dry week coming which will make her healthy (they are turning late, 3 of them, so that's gonna put'r at Oct15 when a nice dress is finally put on, ugh)...... Pineapple Muffin, she's my star, have 3 going, all staying really clean with just a hint of septoria underside and inside on the 2 big ones. One got pushed over and split in heavy rain and wind a couple weeks ago... didn;t get to her until 12 hours later, strapped her back to together, thinking alright, this is a good test, every time I have had this sort of problem, the plant that has rested on the ground gets sick, starting in the area that rested on the ground...... not the case here with the Pineapple muffin...and I have an extra, late planted one in the vegetable garden and that girl is right next to some tomato plants that are now getting smacked hard with tomato septoria (a bad sign for neighboring plants), but hey, that girl is healthy as a horse..... but she aint that big so she doesn't hold moisture and make a microclimate inside .... I always find this.... smaller plants stay drier and host less disease. Problem with the Pineapple muffin is, she reads as a plant that should be done by Oct1 but she is just now showing preflower...... we'll see, at least she's healthy and well fortified for a battle in october. Note, pineapple muffin morphology and disease resistance seems fairly consistent across 3 different plants from 3 seeds....stable genetics from Humboldt?

We need 2 good weeks with zero rain.
 
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mandocat

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keup.taylor said:
Nice...looks like a 1.5 pd'r.....with some chicken scratching around the base.....what a pain, eh, I have the same problem....is that like 4 toppings by july 1 or so?

it does look like it has a little on her, but you are like at harvest in that pic and no septoria is on your flower leaves, key...... any veg spraying at all for that girl?..... as I said to my grow partner yesterday, "we may have to run a IPM spray program in veg, ugh!". Looking at your pics from last year, looks like the Salvisa was a little better than Beshear for Septoria resistance. Hey, in tough years, if I could get stuff to end flower with that much leafage, that be great.

after reviewing all my plants yesterday.... I am seeing septoria set in a little on the Tropicanna Poison, but still minimal. She has some other problem emerging with this tiny crab like bug on the underside of the leaf.... was in the clone cutting that didn;t take...... odd those little crabby things only went after the fast flowering strains in the clone closet (the tropicanna poison and the Gorilla cookies FF)......My big Gorilla cookies FF is struggling , but she's fully larfed and spread out now, so it's a knock on wood (hate that, my 1000 gallon spot has my most vulnerable genetics -- so I got a real big plant with real big problems).....I don;t do any synthetic feeding.... just compost teas and top dressing organics. The other 2 GCFF's are smaller in 50 gal pots, seem less problematic, and likely different pheno's than the big girl (different stalk, node, and leaf development)....

Candy store... holding up ok after a humid stretch, Made of Honor, hanging tough - we have a dry week coming which will make her healthy (they are turning late, 3 of them, so that's gonna put'r at Oct15 when a nice dress is finally put on, ugh)...... Pineapple Muffin, she's my star, have 3 going, all staying really clean with just a hint of septoria underside and inside on the 2 big ones. One got pushed over and split in heavy rain and wind a couple weeks ago... didn;t get to her until 12 hours later, strapped her back to together, thinking alright, this is a good test, every time I have had this sort of problem, the plant that has rested on the ground gets sick, starting in the area that rested on the ground...... not the case here with the Pineapple muffin...and I have an extra, late planted one in the vegetable garden and that girl is right next to some tomato plants that are now getting smacked hard with tomato septoria (a bad sign for neighboring plants), but hey, that girl is healthy as a horse..... but she aint that big so she doesn't hold moisture and make a microclimate inside .... I always find this.... smaller plants stay drier and host less disease. Problem with the Pineapple muffin is, she reads as a plant that should be done by Oct1 but she is just now showing preflower...... we'll see, at least she's healthy and well fortified for a battle in october. Note, pineapple muffin morphology and disease resistance seems fairly consistent across 3 different plants from 3 seeds....stable genetics from Humboldt?

We need 2 good weeks with zero rain.
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Beshear yielded 3 lbs , 2 oz, I never top my outdoor plants, nor do I feed the ones in the ground. I just put worm castings in the holes when I plant them. We have been working this garden area for almost 20 years. The wire around the base is to keep the armadillos from digging near the roots which they do when it gets dry. I think the larger plants deal with disease and pests better than small plants. About all I spray is some sulfur early in the summer as a preventative and Zerotol in flower for PM. If I lose a branch or some buds no big deal. Septoria is increasing in a few plants but overall Salvisa and The Work genetics are practically untouched.
 
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mandocat

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keup.taylor said:
Nice...looks like a 1.5 pd'r.....with some chicken scratching around the base.....what a pain, eh, I have the same problem....is that like 4 toppings by july 1 or so?

it does look like it has a little on her, but you are like at harvest in that pic and no septoria is on your flower leaves, key...... any veg spraying at all for that girl?..... as I said to my grow partner yesterday, "we may have to run a IPM spray program in veg, ugh!". Looking at your pics from last year, looks like the Salvisa was a little better than Beshear for Septoria resistance. Hey, in tough years, if I could get stuff to end flower with that much leafage, that be great.

after reviewing all my plants yesterday.... I am seeing septoria set in a little on the Tropicanna Poison, but still minimal. She has some other problem emerging with this tiny crab like bug on the underside of the leaf.... was in the clone cutting that didn;t take...... odd those little crabby things only went after the fast flowering strains in the clone closet (the tropicanna poison and the Gorilla cookies FF)......My big Gorilla cookies FF is struggling , but she's fully larfed and spread out now, so it's a knock on wood (hate that, my 1000 gallon spot has my most vulnerable genetics -- so I got a real big plant with real big problems).....I don;t do any synthetic feeding.... just compost teas and top dressing organics. The other 2 GCFF's are smaller in 50 gal pots, seem less problematic, and likely different pheno's than the big girl (different stalk, node, and leaf development)....

Candy store... holding up ok after a humid stretch, Made of Honor, hanging tough - we have a dry week coming which will make her healthy (they are turning late, 3 of them, so that's gonna put'r at Oct15 when a nice dress is finally put on, ugh)...... Pineapple Muffin, she's my star, have 3 going, all staying really clean with just a hint of septoria underside and inside on the 2 big ones. One got pushed over and split in heavy rain and wind a couple weeks ago... didn;t get to her until 12 hours later, strapped her back to together, thinking alright, this is a good test, every time I have had this sort of problem, the plant that has rested on the ground gets sick, starting in the area that rested on the ground...... not the case here with the Pineapple muffin...and I have an extra, late planted one in the vegetable garden and that girl is right next to some tomato plants that are now getting smacked hard with tomato septoria (a bad sign for neighboring plants), but hey, that girl is healthy as a horse..... but she aint that big so she doesn't hold moisture and make a microclimate inside .... I always find this.... smaller plants stay drier and host less disease. Problem with the Pineapple muffin is, she reads as a plant that should be done by Oct1 but she is just now showing preflower...... we'll see, at least she's healthy and well fortified for a battle in october. Note, pineapple muffin morphology and disease resistance seems fairly consistent across 3 different plants from 3 seeds....stable genetics from Humboldt?

We need 2 good weeks with zero rain.
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This was September, 2022, a drought year, no septoria. The plant on the right was one of my 3 The Work plants.

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oh shit.... they are 2+ pdr's.... super nice.... I had limited perspective on your other pics, not now though...............you wash that or press that out? If so, what percentages on the fresh frozen? Fresh frozen percentages directly correspond with press percentages, as a general rule, from my experience...... anyhow..... really great pic.... how and what do you feed?
 
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