Sexing Help Needed

fabfun

New Member
as i commend yours bro
and i agree you can never read enough on the subject of cannabis read and ask ?


It would be easier for us to help him learn quickly if he were to read up on growing marijuana a bit and then asked questions, but then again for all i know he might of already been doing so. I agree that it doesnt hurt to ask questions either way, just that i think it would be more beneficial for him to read up more and then ask the questions based off what he read.
So i guess in a way everyone is right.
I commend your willingness/desire to help other and new growers.
 

Jumpin

Active Member
I have read a lot of information about it. I understand the definition of what a node is but what does the seventh node have to do with it? Will seeds first form on the seventh node or something? I actually do how a problem with one of them I noticed yesterday and I have read up on it but cant find anything that answers it so I figured I should ask here in chance someone had this problem as well. So the old leafs are developing yellow dots, not spots like light burn or nut burn. It looks just like if you were to draw tiny circles on the leafs with a yellow marker. I have the light high enough that when my hand is at the top of the plant I dont feel heat. It is only happening on two leafs too but are not seeming to get better. I looked on the underside of the leafs and they all look perfect. I changed out the res water and added all new nuts. The ph is right at 6. I do not have a meter to measure the ppm so I am assuming it is ok. Im not sure if I explained the set up but its a dws if you need to know that.
 

darkdestruction420

Well-Known Member
Those circles sounds like bugs. I know of nothing else that could possibley cause them like you describe them as a perfect circle it looks like someone drew. A cannabis plant will only form seeds if you pollinate a female or hermie(hermies are no good, both male and female parts) and it is pollinated by a male or a hermie(note-A hermie plant can, and will, pollinate itself as well as any other female plants it gets the chance to). Since you want good high quality seedless bud you'll kill the males so they cant pollinate the females, with hermies their is a product called dutchmasters reverse you use w/dutchmasters saturator that will kill male flowers and stop it from making more, you'll need to give it another spraying later on into flower as well. It cannot turn a male female and ive not had alot of luck with it on genetic hermies,spraying from stress hermies has always worked good in my experiences, ultimately its your choice. The reason you should watch the 6-7th node is that is where you will usually see preflowers starting. An alternating node is...having trouble explaining it, lets say we are looking at a plant from the side view, notice how on the main stalk how the new branches and growth points are directly opposite each other? When it starts alternating nodes they will no longer be directly opposite.
 

zombie

Active Member
Also too, if any water that lays on the leaves, act as a magnifying glass and intesify the light. I had that issue last year on my outdoor grow. I was misting the plants with carbonated water but where some of the big droplets were, the next day, there was the yellow cirlcles. Have you misted any of your plants?
 

Jumpin

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I was thinking it might be spider mites but I have only had those when I was using soil I didnt think they really occurred on hydro. As for the misting, I have a mister that goes off every other day to keep humidity up in the room. I have been noticing that the leafs do have a little bit of water sitting on them and I try to wipe the residual off. I am going to turn off the mist for a few days and see if it continues to worsen or stops.
I understand alternating nodes by def but what exactly do I look for if it start alternating. As of right now there are 8 and startings of 9. There are no ball looking things, just tiny things that look like new leafs however they have not grown into anything and are on both sides of every node. I tried to take pics so I can upload but they and so small and when i zoom in its a blur. They remind me of a hair but it looks more like leaf material if it makes sense.
 

Jumpin

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Thanks that does help a lot. I think what I am seeing is the stipules. I did some research on them and I dunno how true this is but if they cross over or point inward they are female? straight up or outward is male? Have you heard anything about this info?
As for my babies I do not see anything that looks like pistils or nuts. I dont know if they are too young? I have them on 18/6 still. Space is limited for them so they are not going to be very large. There are about a foot tall, 9 nodes. I just looked over them very slowly and I noticed on the one it looks as though there is white tips but when i get really close it is hard to tell. The one has no signs though but is a little bit smaller.
 

fabfun

New Member
well when do u plan to switch to flower

Thanks that does help a lot. I think what I am seeing is the stipules. I did some research on them and I dunno how true this is but if they cross over or point inward they are female? straight up or outward is male? Have you heard anything about this info?
As for my babies I do not see anything that looks like pistils or nuts. I dont know if they are too young? I have them on 18/6 still. Space is limited for them so they are not going to be very large. There are about a foot tall, 9 nodes. I just looked over them very slowly and I noticed on the one it looks as though there is white tips but when i get really close it is hard to tell. The one has no signs though but is a little bit smaller.
 

Jumpin

Active Member
So i tried to upload pic but i guess i did it incorrect. Probably would not help you with seeing how they look though since my camera is not that great when I get up close. Ill try one more time with a pic upload.
 

Jumpin

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well when do u plan to switch to flower
I was thinking about switching in a week? Is that too soon? I know when I switch they will still grow. For some reason this time I have been using flouresent for veg instead of hps like the last time and they are not bushy at all. I would say there is about an inch space between nodes.
 

Jumpin

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How can you tell that from the pics though? My last one looked like this to my memory and once lights went 12/12. I hope your prediction is correct though cause i am about to give up if these both because nothing but firewood lol
 

fabfun

New Member
never give up bro
and i see no signs of sex yet

How can you tell that from the pics though? My last one looked like this to my memory and once lights went 12/12. I hope your prediction is correct though cause i am about to give up if these both because nothing but firewood lol
 

zombie

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How can you tell that from the pics though? My last one looked like this to my memory and once lights went 12/12. I hope your prediction is correct though cause i am about to give up if these both because nothing but firewood lol
Its kinda like the ole' wives tell to see if your wife is having a boy or a girl? The ring test,wether or not she had an orgasm during conception. LOL The two, that look like hairs, and i cant think of the actual name of em right now, it begins with an "s", LOL. If they start to cross with each other, than its a female. But, I'll betcha, its a girl. Looking back on all my outdoor grows, I would say damn near all of mine had that same trait, and the were girls ( ecept for a few hermies). Might be different for indoor, not to sure, but cant be that far off. Look close at the pics, towards the highest nodes, is where its starting
 

Jumpin

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Is it too early to switch to 12/12? I do want them to get a little bigger but I know they grow more when flowering. The height I am fine with I just wish they were more dense.
 

zombie

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Is it too early to switch to 12/12? I do want them to get a little bigger but I know they grow more when flowering. The height I am fine with I just wish they were more dense.
Veg them as long as you want if space is not an issue. From what Ive been told and learned first hand, is that they will double, sometimes triple in size when they are ready to harvest when you switch them. Check out my thread in my signature to see what I mean. I have kept a pretty extensive grow journal. I switched mine to 12/12 when mine were about a foot tall, about a month old, and I am now in the 3rd week of flowering, and mine are dense and almost 2 foot tall already. Also depends on the strain, amount of lighting and type, and your nutes. Im sub'd up so I'll keep watching this grow.
 

Jumpin

Active Member
I think im going to switch them today to 12/12 then. I dont have a lot of space and i measured and the smaller one is 1 1/2ft tall. The other is almost 20 inches. I think that is good enough especially if they are still going to grow more. As for the strains I have no idea, bag seeds, light is 2 flours and 150 hps above. Nuts are flora nuts and just micro and bloom im using. Im going to do 8ml micro 16 bloom per gallon. Ph is a constant 5.8 - 6, not ever any higher. Using RO water for res.
 
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