Shall we Gloat?

bl33b said:

admitedly i havent read anyones response, but how to democrats not realize that there basic fundamental rule of wealth redistribution and big government equals socialism at best and communism at worst?

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Lack of an ability to think beyond the statements, or a willful desire for a socialist state.

Gloating is totally cool, but I thought this should be a poll. Can you make it a poll?

fdd2blk said:

if you're not kissing ass you're getting your ass kissed. it's all bullsh*t.

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the ass kissing is what unprofessional managers nurture


if you supply a good service at a good price you will make money hand over fist no kisses or asses needed

Like I said:

Democrats win = No fraud.

Republicans win = Fraud.

Vi

I say go ahead and gloat. Have a BIG party!! Woohoo!! Enjoy it......

I have a friend who is constantly bombarding me with conspiracy theories. I find them quite funny and ridiculous, but he is always entertaining. He speaks with his hands, yah know the kind? He flails about wildly while puffin on a doobage about cartel this and Bush that, UFO's etc, etc.

So he comes over after the election to OF COURSE talk about it. He's building up a good wind when I blurt out, "Your a conspiracy bigot"!! He's like, "Wha???"
I proceed to explain and show him that his conspiracies only go one way and is that really possible? Can't you see anything going the other way?
He pauses and takes it in. Now my friend prides himself on spinning info. He thinks for just a bit and then says basically this:

"okay, the Power Democrats (the ones really in charge of the party) knew that Fred & Fannie were going down before the primaries even took place. They took in the severity and breadth of the coming economic damage and pulled Hillary aside. They said, this isn't gonna be your turn. Whoever wins this election is going to get hammered by forces not within their control. We need a fall guy, a patsy. Someone so new and hungry that they won't realize what is about to happen to them."
My friend is foaming now, it was fun to watch him latch on to something in a different way and yet maintain his fire.
He continues and waxes about it in details as only he can, but I won't go into the entire diatribe. It would take too long.


Basically he figured Obama is the fall guy and Biden is going to be pulling the strings, sort of like Cheney does now. Hillary will not attach to the administration so she can side step the coming carnage, both political and economic.

After it was over, I can see that he really enjoyed that as much as going after Bush..... a new trend perhaps?


So have that party......


Yah, my friend must be crazy.


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Seamaiden said:

Gloating is totally cool, but I thought this should be a poll. Can you make it a poll?

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yes gloating is awesome, all that Rep's will win BS.
DEM's got a huge upset this past election day.

we killed the rep's in everything.

Regardless of whos the New Prez..,
There is One big fukking shit storm as soon as Oath is taken.

A sacrificial lamb has been laid upon the table.....



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Uh...we're not saying all republican presidents got into office fraudulently.Just George Bush.

ViRedd said:

Like I said:

Democrats win = No fraud.

Republicans win = Fraud.

Vi

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The Bush doctrine is dead and I say good riddance. Neo-cons are on life support and the plug should be pulled at the earliest juncture.


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CrackerJax said:

A sacrificial lamb has been laid upon the table.....



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Ok. lets pretend that Billary stepped aside, any one watching him threaten to knock on doors and get the black vote out for her would have a problem believing he/she wanted to lose.
The sacrificial lamb showed that he definately knows the difference between a strategy and a tactic, he put together an organization that defeated the most politically powerful women in the country, turned down the public funding and raised an enormous amount of money. He won every demographic with the possible exception of college educated white men, and he won that demographic with those that earn $200,000.00 or more, the very ones he says will pay more taxes under his plan. If the plan was to sacrifice Obama, they should have taken out his brain first. He has paid his dues. Warren Buffet isn't easy to fool. VV

Please don't make it seem like Obama did us all a favor by turning down public funding. He went back on his word (already?) to do himself a favor, not the people. Keep it real please. Ur right in saying Warren Buffet is no fool, and like Colin Powell, he too can read the poll data and see where his best leverage lies. This is not an indication of being correct. Just being on the winning side. Warren wants to keep his monies..... this is the best way to do it. Simple...

It was just a spin I made up anyways, not presenting it as fact. See how spin works? I'm looking forward to January, I really am.


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CrackerJax said:

The Bush doctrine is dead and I say good riddance. Neo-cons are on life support and the plug should be pulled at the earliest juncture.


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It's a nice thought that the neo-cons are on life support, but I wouldn't bet money on it just yet. And the idea of "preemptive war" (Bush Doctrine) being dead remains yet to be seen. I wouldn't necessarily bet money on that either. I'd be more inclined to agree with you if I witness Obama pull troops from Iraq AND Afghanistan. Things are getting hot at the Aghani/Pakistani border and there's no telling what the President-elect will do once in office. Do keep in mind that the purpose for the Bush Doctrine is to combat terrorism on a global scale. I don't recall ever hearing/reading anything from Obama that would indicate that he is opposed to that concept.

No, because he's using new terms like "aggressive diplomacy" and has plans to INCREASE ground troops by over 100K. Why would he do that if he were planning on pulling us out of these conflicts...??

No one is opposed to fighting terrorism on a global scale except the terrorist. The difference is in how you go about it. Right now we fund both sides of the fight? And our 'drug war' is responsible for the terrorist according to LEAP. The World Organizations are telling us we have to change our policy's about drugs. We don't own the world, maybe someone that understands that can use 'aggressive diplomacy' and remove the reason for the terrorist existence. Do you really think Barrack Obama doesn't understand the school yard bully? He was the first black editor of The Harvard Newspaper? He was teaching Constitutional Law? He is a Millionaire? We will see. VV

VTXDave said:

It's a nice thought that the neo-cons are on life support, but I wouldn't bet money on it just yet. And the idea of "preemptive war" (Bush Doctrine) being dead remains yet to be seen. I wouldn't necessarily bet money on that either. I'd be more inclined to agree with you if I witness Obama pull troops from Iraq AND Afghanistan. Things are getting hot at the Aghani/Pakistani border and there's no telling what the President-elect will do once in office. Do keep in mind that the purpose for the Bush Doctrine is to combat terrorism on a global scale. I don't recall ever hearing/reading anything from Obama that would indicate that he is opposed to that concept.

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I respectfully disagree. The conservatives in the republican party have had it with neo-cons. Number one it doesn't work, neither in practice (important) or in getting re-elected 9more important ). neo-conservatism will be abandoned like rats leaving a sinking ship. No, the only way for the Republicans (not me folks ) is to get back to Reaganomics principles.

In a way this is a good thing, although the damage may be severe, it will not be irreversible. Let's get this Socialist non-sense out in the open and destroy the concepts forever. It won't be hard since it doesn't work. We'll just have to let it play out and pick up the pieces later.....



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Shall we gloat?

Not yet. this is only the first of many steps.

Still.
Business as usual.