Shatter E-CIG Oil, Yes, it works!

GrowinDad

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Yes, the PEG has an off flavor. Looks nice!

Are you getting any separation after it has sat for a while?
 

BiggieNuggz

Active Member
Yes, the PEG has an off flavor. Looks nice!

Are you getting any separation after it has sat for a while?
Not really. It's still looking good 24 hrs later. Still the same cloudiness and viscosity. And I can really see no solids in it. It's a little weak. Takes 7 to 10 vapes to get good and zapped but for my first batch ever I couldn't be happier. I'll probably back off to 5 ml total next time instead of 6 ml so its more like 5 to 7 vapes to get the same effect. Or maybe even 4 ml for a really good kickin' juice. A lot has to do with the strain and potency of the hash as well I'm sure. Lots of experimenting to look forward to.
 

GrowinDad

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I got mine from Tractor Supply Company. It gets used by Farmers to get livestock to eat their vitamins. It was like $15 for a gallon, and yes it is USP.
 

goalie

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I'm in Canada Lio - just trying to get a guage if i ask at a specialty shop, or if i have to order online or if its a grocery store item -
 

GrowinDad

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Outside of ejuices and industrial, I do believe livestock suppliers are the main go to a store way to get PG. a head shop would prob charge a ton more to buy the same gallon.
 

Flagg420

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Just sayin' got a bottle of PG off amazon, my glass stir rod from my airizer, shotglass, coffee mug warmer, a 3.5ml pipette... and a half-gram of good shatter from the local shop. (Lemon OG)

Little nervous @ first (put the oil in @ around 135) but when it hit 140-141, with a lil mixing, dissolved right the hell in, n stayed dissolved. Flavor even came thru a bit was rather nice, but I plan to get some flavor oils for future batches. Next batch will be stronger tho, I want it to kick my ass :D

Props on the easy mode method tho, and the coffee mug warmer works awesome.
 

BiggieNuggz

Active Member
Ha! You and me both. You mention the 3.5ml pipette. Is that the amount of PG you used to your 1/2 gram of shatter? My first mix was a gram to 6ml PEG/PG total and it's a little weak and slow to come on. My next batch will be probably a gram to 3..5 ml liquid, 4 ml max. I was nervous too dropping perfectly good wax into PEG (I heated the PEG up first) but when it melted almost instantly in the hot liquid and mixed in clean and smooth I knew I was in for vape heaven.
 

UncleReemis

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it felt like a power surge hit my penis when charface verified, so id like to verify as well..

I made mine a little strong: 0.5 g shatter into about 1.5 ml PEG USP 400 kosherrr. Did not use a thermometer, used a shot glass, sauce pan, gas oven, and stirring stick. I put two inches of already hot water in the pan with my shotglass of PEG, allowed the PEG to reach the heat of the hot water, then turned on the burner as low as possible without going out. Took about 10 mins to get the shatter melted and the mixture uniform. I stirred it even more for a few minutes extra, let it cool for 5-10, loaded it into a cleaned cartridge and wallah. 4-5 good draws and I'm garfielded out. Thank you folks who shared all the information here.
 

Eric M

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hi? where can i buy PG? :)
What the heck are you guys talking about?

First, what is ppg?

Why do you choose peg? Oh, by the way, The Rite Stuff, I would not recommend it. I would just go get PEG400 USP. Probably what The Rite Stuff is, but it doesn't say squat on the description, doesn't say how much you are getting. I highly doubt that The Rite Stuff is USP grade. Why do I say this? It looks to be rebottled. Once it is rebottled it is no longer considered to be USP grade for regulation reasons. PEG400 is what is used with e-ciggs or at least used to be used. It is considered an alternative to PG USP if one has allergic reactions to PG USP. It is considered a lower quality in the e-cigg world. Someone online that has been doing testing like me, reported back that eeh PEG400 worked almost as good as PG USP and he said what he didn't like the most about the PEG is it gave a bit of a burnt plastic taste. The PEG can hold the infusion longer than PG USP. PG USP has a nice sweet flavor to it. With my concentrates, when I mix with PG USP it holds together for up to 3 months. In a top fed clearomizer (e-Cigg) with a lot of wicking it will separate more quickly. The concentrate will stick to the wicks. This takes weeks in my case. I don't use top fed units with a bunch of wicking anymore anyway. I prefer the dual bottom coil units. Some have nearly no wicking so the infusion will hold together in the e-cigg for months with PG USP. AT least my concentrates do.

Heating it up to 150-160 degrees after adding PG USP or PEG? I would not do that. It will start to vaporize at those temps. I am pretty confident the PEG and PG USP lowers the decarbing temperatures. Not positive, but pretty confident. I try to keep my mixing temperatures below 150 degrees, but I do mix it really well.

Milkshake? With PG USP? Maybe somehow there was VG in there? I have never had my mixtures with PG USP turn to "milkshake" looking, but I am using RSO, QWISO, and QWET.


Below are all a mix of concentrate with PG USP. Depending on the lighting, it can look yellow golden to an amber hue.
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Top Fed Clearomizer
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an excerpt from an e-cigg oil shop.
"E-Liquid Bases
You can select Propylene Glycol (PG), Vegetable Glycerin (VG), PEG400, Best Mix I or Best Mix II as your E-Liquid base. Best Mix I is mixed with PG and VG and Best Mix II is mixed with VG and PEG400, for having the best smoking result. All our E-Liquid bases are made from only pharmaceutical grade without allergens. You may have a sensitivity to PG, so that VG, PEG400 or Best Mix II give you some healthier alternatives. We are using the highest quality of E-Liquid Bases to ensure your maximum safety."

I may give the PEG400 a try, but I am not expecting it to be better than the PG USP. You can even order the PEG400 with flavors.


I still haven't figured out what ppg is...
polypropylene glycol is ppg every one just shortened it when the e cig industry moved from polyethylene glycol
and they just had pg and vg but really its ppg, and vg(vegetable glycerin),,,, I know weve cleared this up a while ago
i just wanted to add it here for others with same question
 

Grow Goddess

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I have been making my e-cannabis oil lately using PEG400 NF/USP from Texas Lab Supply. I have been mixing my concentrate with the PEG400 NF/USP along with NF Organic flavorings from High Desert Vapes. With this mixture it is very thick. I have found that it works best for me in an AeroTank Mini with a 1.5 ohm coil and an eGo C Twist VV battery.

I am really liking the raspberry and also banana nut. It is far better than I thought it would be using flavorings. At first I was against it. Now that I have been using them, I think I prefer it. Adds more stealth when out and about too!

AeroTankMini QWET with banana nut flavor 8-12-14 033.jpg
 

Eric M

Member
Just sayin' got a bottle of PG off amazon, my glass stir rod from my airizer, shotglass, coffee mug warmer, a 3.5ml pipette... and a half-gram of good shatter from the local shop. (Lemon OG)

Little nervous @ first (put the oil in @ around 135) but when it hit 140-141, with a lil mixing, dissolved right the hell in, n stayed dissolved. Flavor even came thru a bit was rather nice, but I plan to get some flavor oils for future batches. Next batch will be stronger tho, I want it to kick my ass :D

Props on the easy mode method tho, and the coffee mug warmer works awesome.
you can get the bud touch vaporizer cartridges on ebay now they are the ones O.pen uses cause they are small bottom fed cartridges and u can put your mix in there for less waste then the normally available bigger tanks, just search bud touch vaporizer cartridges,,they are cheaper there then from
 

whitewidows

New Member
I have been making my e-cannabis oil lately using PEG400 NF/USP from Texas Lab Supply. I have been mixing my concentrate with the PEG400 NF/USP along with NF Organic flavorings from High Desert Vapes. With this mixture it is very thick. I have found that it works best for me in an AeroTank Mini with a 1.5 ohm coil and an eGo C Twist VV battery.

I am really liking the raspberry and also banana nut. It is far better than I thought it would be using flavorings. At first I was against it. Now that I have been using them, I think I prefer it. Adds more stealth when out and about too!

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Sounds like you got this down pat...What ratio are you mixing at and how much flavor are you adding? Any problem with your tank clogging? How does it hold up in the tank over time? I think Im going to give this a try. Seem like this could be a huge revolution to consume extracts if its a convenient as consuming ejuice.

These guys clam to be mixing at a 1:1 ratio
 

Grow Goddess

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Sounds like you got this down pat...What ratio are you mixing at and how much flavor are you adding? Any problem with your tank clogging? How does it hold up in the tank over time? I think Im going to give this a try. Seem like this could be a huge revolution to consume extracts if its a convenient as consuming ejuice.

These guys clam to be mixing at a 1:1 ratio
The ratio depends upon the type of concentrate you plan to use. The oil I make can come out different thickness depending on the strains I use.

I guess when using the PEG400/NF USP it is about 1:1 When adding the flavoring that depends too, different concentrated flavors (NF Organic), the strength is different. On average 1 to 5 drops per mL of e-cannabis oil. I only use NF Organic flavors

With PG USP I only use about 70% cannabis oil and 30% PG USP. With shatter it will be a different ratio. I have been working with QWISO and RSO.

So far my AeroTank mini has not clogged. I have had to replace coils here and there. I generally replace them every 2 tank fills. The cost is low enough about $2 each. Sometimes I will replace them every tank full because I am trying a new flavor and do not want the old coil to interfere with the new flavor.

I have not done much experimenting with it but it seems that you can mix PEG400 NF/USP and PG USP with the concentrate as another method. It all depends on what clearomizer I plan to use on the mixture I prefer. For PEG I have found the AeroTank Mini to work best due to the mixture being quite thick.

I have noticed that going back to smoking joints it brings on a bit of a cough. When I just use the vaporizer, no cough and it feels like I have a new pair of lungs. My lungs feel as if I never smoked cigarettes even though I did for about 30 years. I would have to credit the vaporizer for that. Can't prove it, but sure seems that way.
 
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