shoreline genetics

Got some Shoreline Grand Daddy Purple Testers getting bushyin the back , and 3 Fish Scale clones in front. Going to put them in flower soon. Second pic of some Shoreline Wedding Cakes, They have been slow in veg but are bushing out now, Looks like they are going to stay short and squatty. Beside them on the right are some WC s1s from another breeder. 20210330_073720.jpg20210330_073728.jpg
 
ALgriculture said:
Out of 3 packs total sour D most all popped and about half showed female after topping and sexing clones. Kept 10 females for flowering. About 2 weeks into flower all but 3 sours had herms to one degree or another. I wont tolerate a single herm so I was left with three females. All yielded decent @74days. None had a traditional sour smell at all but smelled sweet funky but not gas or skunk pine or sour. The one pheno I will keep pictured has a unique funky smell. I ran a couple other shoreline strains in the last room too, Fish scale, rks, crippy. Of the females I kept of those all showed some herms at around 2 weeks. I will be running a second pack of each of those in the next couple months to determine if these last packs are flukes. I will see what happens after these next packs get run. In the same room as these shoreline genetics I ran my staple clone only deathstar ecsd and star dawg that had no issues, so I know it was not environmental, light issues etc. causing herms.
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That is disappointing. I bought ten packs of his gear not too long ago which includes all the strains you mentioned above.
 
Few days into new round of Rks, Sour and crippy. So far so good, knock on wood... so many seeds from missing late herms in the last batch of these genetics I had to blast the whole round. The one sour pheno I kept a friend took to his place and had herms late in flower with that sour too. So that sour I will keep no more. We always run clone only strains with these new ones as a way to have a constant variable and none have had herm issues. I will keep everyone updated on this round. I honestly would not even attempt these genetics again accept some of these plants in veg do have a special reek maybe indicative to some cool stuff. I will heavily quarantine these rooms in case of mega herms or late season sneakers.
 

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ALgriculture said:
Out of 3 packs total sour D most all popped and about half showed female after topping and sexing clones. Kept 10 females for flowering. About 2 weeks into flower all but 3 sours had herms to one degree or another. I wont tolerate a single herm so I was left with three females. All yielded decent @74days. None had a traditional sour smell at all but smelled sweet funky but not gas or skunk pine or sour. The one pheno I will keep pictured has a unique funky smell. I ran a couple other shoreline strains in the last room too, Fish scale, rks, crippy. Of the females I kept of those all showed some herms at around 2 weeks. I will be running a second pack of each of those in the next couple months to determine if these last packs are flukes. I will see what happens after these next packs get run. In the same room as these shoreline genetics I ran my staple clone only deathstar ecsd and star dawg that had no issues, so I know it was not environmental, light issues etc. causing herms.
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ALgriculture said:
Few days into new round of Rks, Sour and crippy. So far so good, knock on wood... so many seeds from missing late herms in the last batch of these genetics I had to blast the whole round. The one sour pheno I kept a friend took to his place and had herms late in flower with that sour too. So that sour I will keep no more. We always run clone only strains with these new ones as a way to have a constant variable and none have had herm issues. I will keep everyone updated on this round. I honestly would not even attempt these genetics again accept some of these plants in veg do have a special reek maybe indicative to some cool stuff. I will heavily quarantine these rooms in case of mega herms or late season sneakers.
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ALgriculture said:
Few days into new round of Rks, Sour and crippy. So far so good, knock on wood... so many seeds from missing late herms in the last batch of these genetics I had to blast the whole round. The one sour pheno I kept a friend took to his place and had herms late in flower with that sour too. So that sour I will keep no more. We always run clone only strains with these new ones as a way to have a constant variable and none have had herm issues. I will keep everyone updated on this round. I honestly would not even attempt these genetics again accept some of these plants in veg do have a special reek maybe indicative to some cool stuff. I will heavily quarantine these rooms in case of mega herms or late season sneakers.
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ALgriculture said:
Few days into new round of Rks, Sour and crippy. So far so good, knock on wood... so many seeds from missing late herms in the last batch of these genetics I had to blast the whole round. The one sour pheno I kept a friend took to his place and had herms late in flower with that sour too. So that sour I will keep no more. We always run clone only strains with these new ones as a way to have a constant variable and none have had herm issues. I will keep everyone updated on this round. I honestly would not even attempt these genetics again accept some of these plants in veg do have a special reek maybe indicative to some cool stuff. I will heavily quarantine these rooms in case of mega herms or late season sneakers.
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That’s horrible. Depressing, really. It frustrates me and it didn’t even happen to me. Maybe they’ll offer you new packs but after an experience like this most would probably just wash their hands with this gear and be finished with it.
 
Staretz44 said:
That’s horrible. Depressing, really. It frustrates me and it didn’t even happen to me. Maybe they’ll offer you new packs but after an experience like this most would probably just wash their hands with this gear and be finished with it.
In all fairness, me missing the herms is what caused my crop to seed out. Running new gear, one should always be uber diligent on herm hunting. He reached out and offered fresh packs today. I will give them a go if this next room those genetics goes well. My search for skunks and gas strains has been a long laborious successful one. I'm hoping to score a true skunk so I'm willing to deal with strife to do it. Even with the previous herm problems I did find the stankiest skunky male I have ever put my nose on. I'm as interested with that as anything for breeding. I have a couple projects with that going now. Seeds are always a gamble to me. My clone only strains decades old are gold to me for that reason.
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Not ALL great stinky strains have a stinky stem rub in veg like Deathstar. Although all of the clones or seeds that I run that do have a substantial stink as a veg plant or on stem rub early on are the Dankest. Star Dawg or chem#4, chem 91 all stinky stem rub. For shorelines gear, mostly the RKS i have noticed a two fold increase over anything I run in smell of a veg plant and on stem rub on some. I have a couple dozen rks from shoreline right now in veg, no joke smells like a SKuUNk with filters running. Very impressive to me. What I currently have going for seed production is shorelines RKS male crossed with Corey Haims stardawg, my old school ECSD, chem #4, fuji og, gorilla butter and Runtz. About halfway done with a seed production room and then I will have buku testers to try out of all these genetics hopefully with a skunky boost and lowering the flower time and height of these skunk genetics.
 
Looking good so far after a thorough check on all plants not showing any more herm issues. Lots of vigor in these genetics! When I sexed the rks this time I cloned the small plants then put the clones into a flower room. This allowed me to run that clone tray of RKS for three weeks feeding them lightly once. This let me select the less stretchy stinkiest earliest budding and most sexually determinate of the group. Its amazing how many traits of a plant you can see just while sexing them, if you can let that process go longer.
 

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20210413_074019.jpgI topped and defoliated the two GDP to let the Wedding Cake catch up before putting them in 2 gallons to flip. The Wc are two in front, they seem to have topped themselves, in the center the growth was still twisted up and very slow so i plucked it off, one on the right had male flowers in veg right where the center growth was, Prolly will cull that one. Ill take some photos out of the box when I repot them.
 

Sour d please :)

Karma sour d.. Looks great!! Are they smelling great Flash?
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We had zero issues with herms on the Shoreline SD and it wasnt a stressfree enviro. Thats pretty damn good for ECSD genetics , there will always be a tendency in the genes to herm late. Its just the way it is ,, . Usually you can just pick them off and its no big deal. Out of a pack we had 3 incredible girls. Took them to 90 days in (1)gal coco plenty of stress during this grow and not 1 herm
 
Nutbag Poster said:
I've been looking back trying to find out where the original male pollen came from in the clone only bxs and I'm still confused.

"SKUNKandSOUR said:

They got started with a Shoreline bx male.
Shoreline x ECSD x ECSD so it's 75% ECSD 25%shoreline."

Wouldn't that be considered an ECSD bx?

"rollinfunk said:

The ecsd is the original cut. The male was (shoreline x ecsd.)"

Shoreline and ECSD are both clones, right? Where did the male pollen come from in that male?
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to make back crosses of clone onlys as regs with sts , is cross the clone to a male ideally then find a new male then hit the original from that first cross you search and find another male from f1 then take it back to the original cross and you can continue this process basically ideally making the original clone only show in much higher percentages .. at least that's my understanding but i'm just getting my feet wet with breeding .
 
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