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ButchyBoy

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Like said, they will double in size. I haven't had one triple in size like others say they have.

I just picked up a Platinum Bubba that is short and bushy as can be along with a Holy Grail that is lengthy and thin. Some of my last strains were the same, some short some tall. You will soon enough learn the plant and know when to flip for maximum size in your space.
Are you planning on cloning them? I cut the tops of mine for clones then veg a bit longer so they recover then flip them. This shortens the plant a bit plus creates multiple tops
 
ItsJustMe84

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ButchyBoy said:
Like said, they will double in size. I haven't had one triple in size like others say they have.

I just picked up a Platinum Bubba that is short and bushy as can be along with a Holy Grail that is lengthy and thin. Some of my last strains were the same, some short some tall. You will soon enough learn the plant and know when to flip for maximum size in your space.
Are you planning on cloning them? I cut the tops of mine for clones then veg a bit longer so they recover then flip them. This shortens the plant a bit plus creates multiple tops
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i topped all mine fuck knows if i did it right lol got 2 new tops growing each plant, will i gain anymore nodes now ive topped,?

im litrally walking into my grow room to see how there doing after there feed, dont look as droopy, whats the worst that can happen if a couple of leafs are yellowing ?
 

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BxHaZe87

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yellowing towards the bottom of the plant is normal and inevitable as the plant leaves at the top blocks the smaller leaves on the bottom
 
Midwest Weedist

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I'd be cautious about using 100% coco as your medium. It'll be really easy to drown your plants or have other issues show up. Next time try mixing in some perlite or rice husks, the air space they provide in your soil helps with drainage, but most importantly by giving your roots 02.
Like everyone else has pretty much said, let them veg for another week or so if you want more height on them. But short isn't always bad. I have one 501stOG that is less than 16 inches from the top of the soil, but has at least 20 individual colas that are growing if they're the main one, but I've topped, fimmd, and lstd like crazy.
As for the yellowing it looks like a slight burn starting to set in. The leaf tips are starting to brown and die it looks like, which is a sign that you're pushing the boundaries of how much nutritients you can give her. Others are saying she looks hungry but I don't think so. Though it's not my plant so it's up to you to decide if you want to hold off on the nutes in case you're over feeding or to feed more. Personally I'd feed less for a few days and see if it improves or not. If it does, you'll have your answer. If not, the yellowing will start to claim lower leaves and you can feed her more.
 
ItsJustMe84

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Midwest Weedist said:
I'd be cautious about using 100% coco as your medium. It'll be really easy to drown your plants or have other issues show up. Next time try mixing in some perlite or rice husks, the air space they provide in your soil helps with drainage, but most importantly by giving your roots 02.
Like everyone else has pretty much said, let them veg for another week or so if you want more height on them. But short isn't always bad. I have one 501stOG that is less than 16 inches from the top of the soil, but has at least 20 individual colas that are growing if they're the main one, but I've topped, fimmd, and lstd like crazy.
As for the yellowing it looks like a slight burn starting to set in. The leaf tips are starting to brown and die it looks like, which is a sign that you're pushing the boundaries of how much nutritients you can give her. Others are saying she looks hungry but I don't think so. Though it's not my plant so it's up to you to decide if you want to hold off on the nutes in case you're over feeding or to feed more. Personally I'd feed less for a few days and see if it improves or not. If it does, you'll have your answer. If not, the yellowing will start to claim lower leaves and you can feed her more.
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Hey thanks for reply mann, tbh everything ive read has pointed towards to much nutes i might give them just water next time and give them a smaller dose the time after that, hopfully things will work out, as for feeding them.i only give them a litre max and thats in a 15 litre pot.
 
Midwest Weedist

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ItsJustMe84 said:
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Hey thanks for reply mann, tbh everything ive read has pointed towards to much nutes i might give them just water next time and give them a smaller dose the time after that, hopfully things will work out, as for feeding them.i only give them a litre max and thats in a 15 litre pot.
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Seems like you have a very good idea of what you're doing. Post some pictures in a couple days so we can see how your ladies are doing. I'd say go ahead and just keep doing what you're doing. As for watering, that sounds right about on par with what you'd want to do. I'd suggest if anything to just water slow if you don't already. This gives the water a chance to actually soak in instead of running straight to the bottom.
Much luck!
 
ItsJustMe84

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I may have to strat with the slow watering usually i just flood the top if the pot, ive just realized and im gonna sound like a complete twat but i mixed my nutes totally wrong, giving them 10mg of root development instead of 1mg, and 1 mg of veg instead of ten, all the bottles look identical, pissed off... luckily ive only done this once, lets hope it doesnt kill em lol
 
Midwest Weedist

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I'd say to flush, but I'd be afraid that you'd end up with a drowned plant as you only have coco as your medium. I'd keep an eye of them and definitely take a break from your root development nutrient. What's the npk of it and your other nutes?
 
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Midwest Weedist

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Also, don't beat yourself up. We've all made our mistakes, trust me. I currently have one plant that I've accidentally nute burnt the shit out of. But it's not the end of the world. The plant can usually recover. If not then take it as a lesson on the importance of checking twice.
This is what happens when you burn a plant two and a half weeks before harvest.
 

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ItsJustMe84

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Midwest Weedist said:
Also, don't beat yourself up. We've all made our mistakes, trust me. I currently have one plant that I've accidentally nute burnt the shit out of. But it's not the end of the world. The plant can usually recover. If not then take it as a lesson on the importance of checking twice.
This is what happens when you burn a plant two and a half weeks before harvest.
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Ahhh no way, is it still smokable, ? Im no expert but the buds not looking to bad?? Well i cut off a few badly burnt leafs last night, i know shouldnt of done but i couldnt help myself, they were all bottom leafs, anyway been up to the room this morning and they all seem to have picked, nice new growth were i topped, there still discolored but i suppose there not gonna change over night, i struggle with reading instructions, im dyslexic as shit, i should of marked the bottles from day 1 cause i know what im like, but yeah ill keep you guys updated and stick to this one post, appreciate the advice though, it helps me cause i stress like hell at every little thing to do with my grow, 2 days ago my plants looked so nice n green lol
 
Midwest Weedist

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ItsJustMe84 said:
Ahhh no way, is it still smokable, ? Im no expert but the buds not looking to bad?? Well i cut off a few badly burnt leafs last night, i know shouldnt of done but i couldnt help myself, they were all bottom leafs, anyway been up to the room this morning and they all seem to have picked, nice new growth were i topped, there still discolored but i suppose there not gonna change over night, i struggle with reading instructions, im dyslexic as shit, i should of marked the bottles from day 1 cause i know what im like, but yeah ill keep you guys updated and stick to this one post, appreciate the advice though, it helps me cause i stress like hell at every little thing to do with my grow, 2 days ago my plants looked so nice n green lol
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Yeah she'll be okay. Might lessen the yield or add a few days to the flowering time. Either way it'll be great smoke still as she'll get flushed before chopped down. Don't worry about picking a few leaves off, they'll be fine. Plants lose leaves in nature all of the time, more will grow.

Glad I could help!
 
ButchyBoy

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ItsJustMe84 said:
2 days ago my plants looked so nice n green lol
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What did you do 3-6 days ago??? Is that when you messed up with the nutes????

Can you post a closeup pic of the leafs so we can see the margins better??

Like said, go with clear water for a few watering's and watch the new growth. The old growth that is dying won't get better.
 
ItsJustMe84

ItsJustMe84

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ButchyBoy said:
What did you do 3-6 days ago??? Is that when you messed up with the nutes????

Can you post a closeup pic of the leafs so we can see the margins better??

Like said, go with clear water for a few watering's and watch the new growth. The old growth that is dying won't get better.
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Heres some pics suprisingly there starting to alot better after yesterdays smaller feed, best way i can describe them is burnt tips mostly on the 1st and second nodes, gonna give them a weak feed tomoz but tbh i think theyll be ok, i obviously fed them wrong, what do you think?
 

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Midwest Weedist

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ItsJustMe84 said:
Heres some pics suprisingly there starting to alot better after yesterdays smaller feed, best way i can describe them is burnt tips mostly on the 1st and second nodes, gonna give them a weak feed tomoz but tbh i think theyll be ok, i obviously fed them wrong, what do you think?
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They look much much better
 
ItsJustMe84

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Midwest Weedist said:
They look much much better
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Its amazing how the slightest thing changes them, before i poisoned them they looked lush lol as far as growth goes do they look about right for 4 weeks? Ive seen some pics and most look taller but not as bushy? Suppose it depends on the strain though
 
Midwest Weedist

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ItsJustMe84 said:
Its amazing how the slightest thing changes them, before i poisoned them they looked lush lol as far as growth goes do they look about right for 4 weeks? Ive seen some pics and most look taller but not as bushy? Suppose it depends on the strain though
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Only way to know for sure would be to run another crop and compare, but judging from how they look I'd say you're right on target. You may have a strain/pheno that grows smaller. It could even Bush out quite a lot in the next week. Some strains grow deceptively.
 
ItsJustMe84

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Midwest Weedist said:
Only way to know for sure would be to run another crop and compare, but judging from how they look I'd say you're right on target. You may have a strain/pheno that grows smaller. It could even Bush out quite a lot in the next week. Some strains grow deceptively.
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We'll just have to see what happens, think am gonna leave them.for exactly 7 days, no bending branches topping, nothing but feed and light cycle, let them totally recover then ill flip them, ive noticed when lights go out, they seem to do alot of the growing then, my humiditys at like 75% when the lights off though i think that helps. Another thing i have 2 x 600w running at the mo my temps are at 75f? Would u risk putting another 600 in?
 
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