Should I be thinning my hedge? (Some botrytis gray mold on stems)

zinc

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I have an 7' x 2' or so outdoor SCROG on a west facing deck in SF. Started with 12 sprouts in medium size terra cotta pots (yes not best I know thanks) hoping to get 6 fems (about right for space). Got 12 fems. Crazy. Scrog absolutely required to limit height for privacy. So nows it's crowded and I made mistakes including interlacing branches through the nylon twine of the mesh, and across each other. It was a wonderful warm July but a horrible foggy and overcast Aug for weeks on end (back to sun now for a week). I got gray mold on stems where they have been chaffed or perhaps otherwise damaged.. Cleaned up aggressively with apple cider vinegar scrub, which I'm repeating faily often on damaged areas. I'm about to start treating on the more proactive side with Seranade (on its way), as the idea of bud rot gives me nightmares, and I'm also about to do a general stem spray down with a diluted vinegar solution.

My question is, should I thin the foliage in some places? Am I over the edge with density here?? This is a grow completely open the elements, and there's plenty of natural ventilation. However, on foggy mornings it gets dripping wet with no wind at all (by afternoon it's windy and dry, sometimes with some sun).

Am I running way to high a risk with this thick canopy? Should I thin via some aggressive shade leaf removal, strategically to minimize contact points in general? Or is this probably just fine as is? I'm happy to reduce yield some here to minimize risk of disaster! If all goes well...I'm gonna have 80--100 colas (I've counted), most I suspect will be on the small side but a decent yield potentially, overall. I still have risk of multiple branches dying from the existing gray mold damage as well (I've lost several already).

Pics trying to show density, and a few of a couple of damaged stems, argh. Thanks for any advice.
 

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mwooten102

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I have an 7' x 2' or so outdoor SCROG on a west facing deck in SF. Started with 12 sprouts in medium size terra cotta pots (yes not best I know thanks) hoping to get 6 fems (about right for space). Got 12 fems. Crazy. Scrog absolutely required to limit height for privacy. So nows it's crowded and I made mistakes including interlacing branches through the nylon twine of the mesh, and across each other. It was a wonderful warm July but a horrible foggy and overcast Aug for weeks on end (back to sun now for a week). I got gray mold on stems where they have been chaffed or perhaps otherwise damaged.. Cleaned up aggressively with apple cider vinegar scrub, which I'm repeating faily often on damaged areas. I'm about to start treating on the more proactive side with Seranade (on its way), as the idea of bud rot gives me nightmares, and I'm also about to do a general stem spray down with a diluted vinegar solution.

My question is, should I thin the foliage in some places? Am I over the edge with density here?? This is a grow completely open the elements, and there's plenty of natural ventilation. However, on foggy mornings it gets dripping wet with no wind at all (by afternoon it's windy and dry, sometimes with some sun).

Am I running way to high a risk with this thick canopy? Should I thin via some aggressive shade leaf removal, strategically to minimize contact points in general? Or is this probably just fine as is? I'm happy to reduce yield some here to minimize risk of disaster! If all goes well...I'm gonna have 80--100 colas (I've counted), most I suspect will be on the small side but a decent yield potentially, overall. I still have risk of multiple branches dying from the existing gray mold damage as well (I've lost several already).

Pics trying to show density, and a few of a couple of damaged stems, argh. Thanks for any advice.
hit them once or twice a week with serenade.

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Werp

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For those that have used serenade, Does it affect your final product -buds smelling and tasting like crap? I have also heard mixed reports on how well it works. Any feedback would be appreciated.
 

zinc

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It's day 3 of using seranade. I've been manually cleaning affected areas with a diluted (to instructions) seranade solution soaked paper towel, and afterwards soaking the affected area with the same solution spray. Today (day 3 of this), new mold in a couple affected areas! "Not working". Does Seranade take more than 3 days to start being effective? I'll find out, I'll continue until my order of GreenCare arrives. If I have yet new outbreaks between now and then, goodbye Seranade, welcome GreenCare. Too much value to not do anything/everything to preserve what I have and maximize yield. I have perhaps as much as 30% of the crop at risk due to affected branches right now, worst case I'd guess. And of course there's the risk of the gray mold in buds at some point as well, so that's probably 100% ultimately at risk!
 

zinc

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For those that have used serenade, Does it affect your final product -buds smelling and tasting like crap? I have also heard mixed reports on how well it works. Any feedback would be appreciated.
I don't have experience with it yet. That said, I'm doing everything I can to not get any whatsoever on my buds, only on my branches, and a bit on the underside of canopy. I won't spray the top of the canopy. I'm not putting stinkpot bio gel on my buds. "That can't be right", and besides, as I said above, so far, no workee for my ladies yet (not to dis the product though: every situation is unique!).
 
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