Should i put i have autism on a walgreens application ?

Iloveskywalkerog

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curious2garden post: 11372992 said:
You know you need to correct the ICD 10 and DSM V folks because they believe there are differences. According to the DSM V he is Autistic Spectrum Disorder Level X. Now you may call a rifle a rifle but that is far to vague to decide if you should use it for elephants or rats. Even though I come from a surgical specialty I am perfectly capable of reading the current literature as is anyone else.

Before we do a craniotomy we like to know precisely what we are facing. Obviously you have some problems with specificity. Let me guess you're in family practice, LOL.


I really do not give a shit what you think. If you want to call yourself the Pied Piper, or whatever, enjoy.
What is " the pied piper " lol
 

Dyna Ryda

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Can you please start calling it ASSBURGERS, please. Way more funnier that way.

Did you watch American Idol a few years ago when they had James Durban on there. He has assburgers and he rocked. That was the last season I ever watched, got divorced and was never forced to watch it again.
Watch this video in my previous post^^^^ Dr.Drew talks about how they are reclassifying it.
 

ovo

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Does your mild autism provide any certain strengths, where you may excell in certain areas, or is it mostly disability in your instance? This is a sincere question, that any employer would want to know.
 

Iloveskywalkerog

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Does your mild autism provide any certain strengths, where you may excell in certain areas, or is it mostly disability in your instance? This is a sincere question, that any employer would want to know.
Well no there are no strengths I have that I know of that come from autism, it very much hinders my ability to be social in all aspects I'm not good at following
simple instructions which is a problem in my current work place which leads to asshole managers embarrassing me in front of other employees I'm afraid to let them know about cause I've seen what happens to disabled people there
In the past. Let's just say they don't work there no more the managers are not understanding and will most likely fire me instantly.


And I also do not have very much friends from the autism it sucks I can't have a conversation with somebody it's hard for me to engage in such things as small talk.
 

vro

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how are you bad at it then? you seem good at talking on here you use good grammar
 

ovo

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Well you seem to be doing ok here. maybe things will get better with more life experience. I'm guessing you can pass for "normal", so leave that dumb misunderstood diagnosis, that you're holding onto, off the application!

I know people with similar disabilities and some you'd never be able to tell unless it was pointed out. It's these same people that leave others in the dust with some tasks that they deem worthy enough of their limited attention. Screw the label, it only makes you own something you may not be. We are always changing and evolving.

http://life-with-aspergers.blogspot.com/2008/09/hyperfocus-and-aspergers.html?m=1

One of the unusual abilities that aspies have is "Hyper-Focus. Like all aspie traits, hyperfocus is a double-edged sword.

On the one hand when combined with the special interest and aspie long-term memory, it is responsible for the genius label as it applies to apsies. On the other, it's responsible for many learning and obedience issues with Asperger's children.

Hyperfocus is commonly found in Asperger's children who also have the ADD/ADHD comorbid.


Hyperfocus and ADHD/ADD
In recent years, the definitions of ADHD (Attention Deficit Hyperactive Disorder) and ADD (Attention Deficit Disorder) have merged, in the medical sense under the banner of ADHD.

Personally, I'm not keen on this merging of diagnosis because while the two share similar definitions, there are some fundamental differences between them.

While both ADHD and ADD children have, by definition, attention issues, the hyperactive child is more likely to have attention problems due to hyperactivity itself while the ADD child is more likely to have a hyperfocus problem.

Consider the differences between between
  1. A child who does not respond when his name is called because he is distracted or is shouting and jumping from chair to chair.
  2. A child who is intently starring at a spinning wheel, or playing with some lego bricks and does not respond when his name is repeatedly called.

Hyperfocus is possibly the cause of the problem only in the second case.


Hyperfocus and Discipline
One of the basic tenants of positive parenting and positive schooling is that the obedient child should be rewarded. In school for example, a child who is obviously paying attention will receive a reward while one who is not may be rebuked or simply ignored. This technique is generally quite effective with neurotypical children.

Unfortunately, this technique does not work with hyper-focussed children who go into daydream state (or "zone out") automatically. Zoning out is not disobedience. This child is not trying to be naughty - they just happen to go into that state automatically.

The best remedy for these children is for the teacher to work more closely with them and for more one-on-one time to be allocated. In schools, this isn't always practical and hyperfocused children can often miss out on necessary attention and can fall behind. Often, such children are labelled "slow" and are put into remedial classes simply because they lack the ability to remain "on-task".

Making use of Hyperfocus
Hyperfocus has a lot of advantages. It allows one to think more abstractly and with greater complexity. It is a particularly useful skill to have when you need to be able to model complex systems or think in an extremely logical manner (for computer programming). In the adult world, hyperfocus allows aspies to deal with excessive levels of detail while still retaining a top-down approach.

Aspies tend to hyperfocus mainly on their special interests and they are able to take in and process large amounts of related information as a result.

The best way to make use of hyperfocus in primary school children is to attempt to line their work up with their special interests whenever possible.

For example, if your child's special interest is trains, then giving them sentences to write about trains or mathematics problems regarding carriages, train sizes or weights or giving them scientific projects on the use of electricity or steam in trains will allow the child to use their special interest to further their normal learning.


Psychiatric Recognition of Hyperfocus
The DSM-IV manual used to diagnose autism, aspergers and other mental disorders does not recognise hyperfocus at all. Only the symptoms of hyperfocus are discussed.
 

Iloveskywalkerog

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[QUO"vro, post: 11373505, member: 676097"]how are you bad at it then? you seem good at talking on here you use good grammar[/QUOTE]
Yes a lot of people that have it also have a good vocabulary, I forgot to mention that as a strength that I have.
 

Iloveskywalkerog

Well-Known Member
[QUOTE="ovo, post: 11373520, member: 89742whenl you seem to be doing ok here. maybe things will get better with more life experience. I'm guessing you can pass for "normal", so leave that dumb misunderstood diagnosis, that you're holding onto, off the application!

I know people with similar disabilities and some you'd never be able to tell unless it was pointed out. It's these same people that leave others in the dust with some tasks that they deem worthy enough of their limited attention. Screw the label, it only makes you own something you may not be. We are always changing and evolving.

http://life-with-aspergers.blogspot.com/2008/09/hyperfocus-and-aspergers.html?m=1

One of the unusual abilities that aspies have is "Hyper-Focus. Like all aspie traits, hyperfocus is a double-edged sword.

On the one hand when combined with the special interest and aspie long-term memory, it is responsible for the genius label as it applies to apsies. On the other, it's responsible for many learning and obedience issues with Asperger's children.

Hyperfocus is commonly found in Asperger's children who also have the ADD/ADHD comorbid.


Hyperfocus and ADHD/ADD
In recent years, the definitions of ADHD (Attention Deficit Hyperactive Disorder) and ADD (Attention Deficit Disorder) have merged, in the medical sense under the banner of ADHD.

Personally, I'm not keen on this merging of diagnosis because while the two share similar definitions, there are some fundamental differences between them.

While both ADHD and ADD children have, by definition, attention issues, the hyperactive child is more likely to have attention problems due to hyperactivity itself while the ADD child is more likely to have a hyperfocus problem.

Consider the differences between between
  1. A child who does not respond when his name is called because he is distracted or is shouting and jumping from chair to chair.
  2. A child who is intently starring at a spinning wheel, or playing with some lego bricks and does not respond when his name is repeatedly called.

Hyperfocus is possibly the cause of the problem only in the second case.


Hyperfocus and Discipline
One of the basic tenants of positive parenting and positive schooling is that the obedient child should be rewarded. In school for example, a child who is obviously paying attention will receive a reward while one who is not may be rebuked or simply ignored. This technique is generally quite effective with neurotypical children.

Unfortunately, this technique does not work with hyper-focussed children who go into daydream state (or "zone out") automatically. Zoning out is not disobedience. This child is not trying to be naughty - they just happen to go into that state automatically.

The best remedy for these children is for the teacher to work more closely with them and for more one-on-one time to be allocated. In schools, this isn't always practical and hyperfocused children can often miss out on necessary attention and can fall behind. Often, such children are labelled "slow" and are put into remedial classes simply because they lack the ability to remain "on-task".

Making use of Hyperfocus
Hyperfocus has a lot of advantages. It allows one to think more abstractly and with greater complexity. It is a particularly useful skill to have when you need to be able to model complex systems or think in an extremely logical manner (for computer programming). In the adult world, hyperfocus allows aspies to deal with excessive levels of detail while still retaining a top-down approach.

Aspies tend to hyperfocus mainly on their special interests and they are able to take in and process large amounts of related information as a result.

The best way to make use of hyperfocus in primary school children is to attempt to line their work up with their special interests whenever possible.

For example, if your child's special interest is trains, then giving them sentences to write about trains or mathematics problems regarding carriages, train sizes or weights or giving them scientific projects on the use of electricity or steam in trains will allow the child to use their special interest to further their normal learning.


Psychiatric Recognition of Hyperfocus
The DSM-IV manual used to diagnose autism, aspergers and other mental disorders does not recognise hyperfocus at all. Only the symptoms of hyperfocus are discussed.[/QUOTE]
Exactly what you explained happened to me when i was back in school
 

Iloveskywalkerog

Well-Known Member
Well you seem to be doing ok here. maybe things will get better with more life experience. I'm guessing you can pass for "normal", so leave that dumb misunderstood diagnosis, that you're holding onto, off the application!

I know people with similar disabilities and some you'd never be able to tell unless it was pointed out. It's these same people that leave others in the dust with some tasks that they deem worthy enough of their limited attention. Screw the label, it only makes you own something you may not be. We are always changing and evolving.

http://life-with-aspergers.blogspot.com/2008/09/hyperfocus-and-aspergers.html?m=1

One of the unusual abilities that aspies have is "Hyper-Focus. Like all aspie traits, hyperfocus is a double-edged sword.

On the one hand when combined with the special interest and aspie long-term memory, it is responsible for the genius label as it applies to apsies. On the other, it's responsible for many learning and obedience issues with Asperger's children.

Hyperfocus is commonly found in Asperger's children who also have the ADD/ADHD comorbid.


Hyperfocus and ADHD/ADD
In recent years, the definitions of ADHD (Attention Deficit Hyperactive Disorder) and ADD (Attention Deficit Disorder) have merged, in the medical sense under the banner of ADHD.

Personally, I'm not keen on this merging of diagnosis because while the two share similar definitions, there are some fundamental differences between them.

While both ADHD and ADD children have, by definition, attention issues, the hyperactive child is more likely to have attention problems due to hyperactivity itself while the ADD child is more likely to have a hyperfocus problem.

Consider the differences between between
  1. A child who does not respond when his name is called because he is distracted or is shouting and jumping from chair to chair.
  2. A child who is intently starring at a spinning wheel, or playing with some lego bricks and does not respond when his name is repeatedly called.

Hyperfocus is possibly the cause of the problem only in the second case.


Hyperfocus and Discipline
One of the basic tenants of positive parenting and positive schooling is that the obedient child should be rewarded. In school for example, a child who is obviously paying attention will receive a reward while one who is not may be rebuked or simply ignored. This technique is generally quite effective with neurotypical children.

Unfortunately, this technique does not work with hyper-focussed children who go into daydream state (or "zone out") automatically. Zoning out is not disobedience. This child is not trying to be naughty - they just happen to go into that state automatically.

The best remedy for these children is for the teacher to work more closely with them and for more one-on-one time to be allocated. In schools, this isn't always practical and hyperfocused children can often miss out on necessary attention and can fall behind. Often, such children are labelled "slow" and are put into remedial classes simply because they lack the ability to remain "on-task".

Making use of Hyperfocus
Hyperfocus has a lot of advantages. It allows one to think more abstractly and with greater complexity. It is a particularly useful skill to have when you need to be able to model complex systems or think in an extremely logical manner (for computer programming). In the adult world, hyperfocus allows aspies to deal with excessive levels of detail while still retaining a top-down approach.

Aspies tend to hyperfocus mainly on their special interests and they are able to take in and process large amounts of related information as a result.

The best way to make use of hyperfocus in primary school children is to attempt to line their work up with their special interests whenever possible.

For example, if your child's special interest is trains, then giving them sentences to write about trains or mathematics problems regarding carriages, train sizes or weights or giving them scientific projects on the use of electricity or steam in trains will allow the child to use their special interest to further their normal learning.


Psychiatric Recognition of Hyperfocus
The DSM-IV manual used to diagnose autism, aspergers and other mental disorders does not recognise hyperfocus at all. Only the symptoms of hyperfocus are discussed.
Ive tried to forget about the label but I have to face the reality of it everyday.
 

whitebb2727

Well-Known Member
Well no there are no strengths I have that I know of that come from autism, it very much hinders my ability to be social in all aspects I'm not good at following
simple instructions which is a problem in my current work place which leads to asshole managers embarrassing me in front of other employees I'm afraid to let them know about cause I've seen what happens to disabled people there
In the past. Let's just say they don't work there no more the managers are not understanding and will most likely fire me instantly.


And I also do not have very much friends from the autism it sucks I can't have a conversation with somebody it's hard for me to engage in such things as small talk.

I got some ass chewings in the military but at least they had the decency to do it behind closed doors.

Dude f that. Disability or no, no one deserves to be belittled in front of other employees.

I have only had a couple bosses talk down to me and we got that shit straight real quick.

Do not let any person treat you that way.
 

Iloveskywalkerog

Well-Known Member
I got some ass chewings in the military but at least they had the decency to do it behind closed doors.

Dude f that. Disability or no, no one deserves to be belittled in front of other employees.

I have only had a couple bosses talk down to me and we got that shit straight real quick.

Do not let any person treat you that way.
How do you set your managers straight
 

whitebb2727

Well-Known Member
How do you set your managers straight
Be straight up. Tell them that if they need to comment negatively on you work they need to do it behind closed doors.

Tell them its wrong and your not going to take it.

My wife was treated pretty bad by a manager. He treated a lot of the emoyees bad. He was so bad I had to talk to him in private. I informed him that he was so bad he made my wife and some of the other girls cry. He said he really didn't care. I then showed him the baseball bat that was out of his view.

I told him that was my wife and if he treated her like that again I would make sure to bust his knee caps when I came back. He eventually was fired.


I'm not telling you to go over board.

Just tell them that you don't appreciate it. If they start to disagree, in a firm voice say "Hey..... Its not a request."
 

Iloveskywalkerog

Well-Known Member
Be straight up. Tell them that if they need to comment negatively on you work they need to do it behind closed doors.

Tell them its wrong and your not going to take it.

My wife was treated pretty bad by a manager. He treated a lot of the emoyees bad. He was so bad I had to talk to him in private. I informed him that he was so bad he made my wife and some of the other girls cry. He said he really didn't care. I then showed him the baseball bat that was out of his view.

I told him that was my wife and if he treated her like that again I would make sure to bust his knee caps when I came back. He eventually was fired.


I'm not telling you to go over board.

Just tell them that you don't appreciate it. If they start to disagree, in a firm voice say "Hey..... Its not a request."
Hmmmm im surprised I never thought of that thank you.
 

whitebb2727

Well-Known Member
Hmmmm im surprised I never thought of that thank you.
No problem. Sometimes people don't realize what they are doing to others.

I'm not suggesting violence. In my wife's case the way I handled was needed. Sometimes a union makes it hard for a company to get rid of douche bags.

I find for the most part open honest communication is best.
 
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