Should marijuana be taxed and regulated in alaska?

Should marijuana be taxed and regulated in alaska?

  • yes

    Votes: 4 44.4%
  • no

    Votes: 5 55.6%

  • Total voters
    9

elkamino

Well-Known Member
Like legally? Getting a license and what not? I wanna start something I've read a lot on it just not sure where you go and get one when you can you know?
Much more will be known by Feb. as the law's got 90 days before it goes into effect. Expect lots of people trying to tweak it in ways they want it to go, and now would be the time for anyone with strong motivations to do so.:leaf:
 

elkamino

Well-Known Member
I'm curious how any mj cases between now and the law's passage are going to be handled. Would any prosecutor actually pursue any charges that will soon be legal? Does anyone know someone who's current case may be affected by the new law? I've free time and would make it to any trial I could.

I appreciate the SOG equation, efficiency is something I strive for and it seems a square foot requirement might be better than a plant count. Not that the state should give a shit about me and my plants, but I'm an eager YES voter because the current option sucks.

See, I'm previously from MT, and have a friend in prison and another on probation after a bizarre crackdown on the state's largest medical dispensary a few years back.

Their business, Montana Cannabis, was very transparent with local law enforcement, city officials and politicians. Many, including cops and legislators, toured his facility, on camera. Despite every effort to comply with state law, soon thereafter his greenhouse was raided, plants pulled up and lives literally destroyed.

Unbelievably, the 15-agency raid was timed to go down DURING an historic vote where these self-rightous legislators actually overturned a Citizen's Initiative, one that passed by like 15 points! Gotta save the people from themselves, you know.

One result is the travesty that Chris Williams still sits in the can today, because he refused to plea. Meanwhile four states have legalized... and thousands are doing exactly what he did! But we pay for that farmer to sit in prison. That raid (and about a dozen others state-wide that week) ruined many people's lives. One of Chris' partners, Richard Flor, (RIP) died weeks later while in prison.

I share this story because when that went down it hit home. And since I'm small potatoes grower with a valid medically qualifying condition that no one will ever question anyway, all I need on this issue is some fucking normalization. I agree the law's not perfect but it's a hell of an improvement over the current Orwellian dealio our govt has with cannabis.

Anyone who's not seen what went down in MT should check out Code of The West, it does a very good job of telling the story. Short trailer here, full length movie available online too:
 

Skylor

Well-Known Member
city hall... depending on what you want to do, it'll be between $25 and $2500
And then there is legal advice fees, I would think anybody in the business of sell weed legally needs to have a lawyer to help oversee everything so U are in fact all legal. Maybe as time goes by, that isn't as necessary but the law can twist stuff around and try to closed down your shop and throw U in jail for something U thought was legal to do.

Maybe old me is just paranoia, times have changed
 

Skylor

Well-Known Member
See, I'm previously from MT, and have a friend in prison and another on probation after a bizarre crackdown on the state's largest medical dispensary a few years back.

Their business, Montana Cannabis, was very transparent with local law enforcement, city officials and politicians. Many, including cops and legislators, toured his facility, on camera. Despite every effort to comply with state law, soon thereafter his greenhouse was raided, plants pulled up and lives literally destroyed.

Unbelievably, the 15-agency raid was timed to go down DURING an historic vote where these self-rightous legislators actually overturned a Citizen's Initiative, one that passed by like 15 points! Gotta save the people from themselves, you know.

One result is the travesty that Chris Williams still sits in the can today, because he refused to plea. Meanwhile four states have legalized... and thousands are doing exactly what he did! But we pay for that farmer to sit in prison. That raid (and about a dozen others state-wide that week) ruined many people's lives. One of Chris' partners, Richard Flor, (RIP) died weeks later while in prison.

I share this story because when that went down it hit home. And since I'm small potatoes grower with a valid medically qualifying condition that no one will ever question anyway, all I need on this issue is some fucking normalization. I agree the law's not perfect but it's a hell of an improvement over the current Orwellian dealio our govt has with cannabis.

Anyone who's not seen what went down in MT should check out Code of The West, it does a very good job of telling the story. Short trailer here, full length movie available online too:
Hmm, maybe I got good reasons to still be paranoia on selling weed.
 

Skylor

Well-Known Member
Its going to be interesting how the state of Alaska handles legal weed sales. Do U know who your governor will be yet, if so, are they pro or against weed ? Thats going to be a biggie, IMO

That 1 OZ limit I don't like, in Oregon their limit is 8 OZ, thats much safer. I say that cause take a 1/2 OZ of very dry weed and get it wet and it can easily go over 1 OZ. Again maybe I'm being paranoia but its always better to be safe then sorry.

Yeah, there are people in prison right now for doing something that others do today right in the open.

I found out long ago, sometimes it matters more where U do something, then what U actuality do.
 

Ninjabowler

Well-Known Member
Party on alaska. Way to go! I could care less about who makes the money. I just want to see people smoking weed everywhere. Im so tired of hearing stories of people spending time locked up for something that grows in the ground that makes you feel good. Tear down the wall. Overgrow.
 

FrozenChozen

Well-Known Member
Hmm, maybe I got good reasons to still be paranoia on selling weed.
@Skylor growing and selling are totally different..... @elkamino I know of one person that is in current legal matters involving about a dozen plants.... He was trying to prove a point about numbers limits though (numbers don't matter if you veg right).... The 3 he had in flower were almost 7 feet tall in 55 gallon Brute trash bins with 2 1000 watt'rs per plant (6000 watts) , had things not gone down the way they did (sour partner), he was looking at close to 10-15 pounds from those beauties, and had it churning out roughly 12-13 pounds every 8 weeks.....State Troopers kicked in his door in full riot gear with flash bangs and assault rifles.... Evidently they didn't like what he was doing...


He has yet to make a plea, and will not accept the deals being tossed his way. I was told he was waiting on BM2 to decide what to do. They have no evidence of distribution, or trafficking, only growing a VERY SMALL number of plants in a house he owned... The only thing working against him is his lack of a tax paying job, and the 10 pounds in his UNLOCKED safe... . It'll be interesting to find out how its handled
 

FrozenChozen

Well-Known Member
FYI

To all those planning a visit to Alaska,
Every spring, myself and a group of friends scatter tens of thousands of seeds all down the sides of the highway from Girdwood to Talkeetna..... Late august is the best time to drive the "high"way up here!
 

elkamino

Well-Known Member
Like legally? Getting a license and what not? I wanna start something I've read a lot on it just not sure where you go and get one when you can you know?

A couple fine reporters at ADN have solid answers to your questions-

SNIP: "And don’t expect to see marijuana businesses right away. The board will have nine months to craft regulations surrounding marijuana establishments. Those regulations will likely be in place in November 2015. The board will then begin accepting business applications in February 2016, and begin issuing business licenses no later than May 2016."


Published on Alaska Dispatch (http://www.adn.com)


Home > With Alaska voters signing off on legal pot, road to regulation begins
Suzanna Caldwell [1],Laurel Andrews [2]
November 5, 2014
Main Image:
ML Yes on 2 pot march 01 - 20141104.jpg-1415176831 [3]
Main Image Caption:
Supporters of the Campaign to Regulate Marijuana Like Alcohol in Alaska march to Election Central at the Egan Center in Anchorage to watch results come in on Tuesday.
Alaska voters on Tuesday might have been the fourth state in the nation to approve recreational marijuana legalization [4], but residents will still have to wait before being able to use legally.

Alaska followed Oregon and Washington D.C. in passing initiatives on Election Day legalizing recreational marijuana. Championed by the Campaign to Regulate Marijuana Like Alcohol in Alaska [5], the newly passed Ballot Measure 2 will tax and regulate the substance in a manner similar to alcohol, allowing sales to only those 21 years of age and older. It will tax the substance at $50 per ounce wholesale. Washington state and Colorado both passed similar legalization measures in 2012.

When will people be able to legally possess and transport marijuana? Likely at the end of February, according to Cynthia Franklin, director of the Alcoholic Beverage Control Board. Initiatives do not become law until 90 days after the election is certified, which is tentatively set to happen Nov. 28, Franklin said.

But, Franklin warned, “Until that 90-day window has passed, those criminal statutes are still full force in effect.”

Once the initiative becomes law, personal use of marijuana by adults 21 and older will be legal. People will be able to possess and transport up to 1 ounce of marijuana, and grow or transport up to six marijuana plants, three of which can be flowering at one time. People can give each other up to 1 ounce of marijuana, or six immature plants. Smoking in public will be banned, however, and subject to a $100 citation.

What agency will craft the specific regulations remains to be seen. The Legislature has the option to create the Marijuana Control Board, which would be housed under the Department of Commerce, Community and Economic Development.

Even if a Marijuana Control Board is implemented, the ABC Board will still have “valuable insight” into the regulation process, Franklin said.

And don’t expect to see marijuana businesses right away. The board will have nine months to craft regulations surrounding marijuana establishments. Those regulations will likely be in place in November 2015. The board will then begin accepting business applications in February 2016, and begin issuing business licenses no later than May 2016.

“We’re starting from the ground up, basically,” said ABC Board member Ellen Ganley.

Alaska can learn from both Colorado and Washington’s rollout, Ganley said, and she anticipates tweaks to the regulations in the first few years as Alaska’s system gets up and running.

Making the rules
For now, the ABC Board is waiting for the final votes to be counted and the election to be certified, Franklin said. After that, the agency will draft a timeline for the rulemaking process.

“The process for creating regulations is a statewide process, it’s a standardized process,” Franklin said. “That means that there will be public notification and a public comment period,” and proposed regulations will be posted online.

Regardless of what entity is crafting the regulations, it will be under “intense scrutiny” from the 48 percent of voters who did not approve the measure, Franklin said.

“I expect it to be a pretty lively process,” Franklin said. “I think it will be transparent, and the public will certainly have the opportunity to provide input.”

Both Franklin and Ganley agreed that the ABC Board would need more staff to tackle a whole new industry.

“Certainly we’d anticipate if the work remains under the ABC Board there will be additional personnel and staffing needs,” Franklin said.

Both, though, are confident in the ABC Board’s ability to meet the deadlines outlined in the initiative.

“It’s just going to be a huge challenge, I think, but a very interesting challenge … it’s gonna be fun,” Ganley said.

Emerging interests
During a national conference call with the Drug Policy Alliance [6] Wednesday morning, campaign spokesman Taylor Bickford said with the measure approved, marijuana legalization advocates will now begin the process of figuring out how exactly Alaska will deal with the now-legal substance.

“The advantage we all have of legalizing in 2014 is that we can draw from the successes in both Washington and Colorado to build regulatory structures that work for our states,” Bickford said. “A lot of what’s happening can be replicated.”

Whether the Alaska campaign will still be involved with that process is yet to be determined, according to Bickford.

“We will have some role, but we're not sure what that will look like,” he said.

A spokesman for the national Marijuana Policy Project, the primary backer of Ballot Measure 2, said from here the group will be more hands-off when it comes to the state crafting its regulations. The group spent nearly $800,000 on the campaign, a majority of the pro-legalization side’s fundraising, which totaled just under $900,000.

Mason Tvert, director of communications for the Marijuana Policy Project, said the group will connect local lawmakers with experts and resources, but is unlikely to participate in the rulemaking process. Their role is giving local advocates the resources they need to create the regulations, leaving the states to craft rules that work for them.

“Our organization and staff generally won’t be walking the halls of the legislature,” Tvert said Wednesday.

But Bruce Schulte hopes his group will. Schulte, who served as the conservative face of Alaska’s marijuana campaign, has been heading up public relations for the Coalition for Responsible Cannabis Legislation. That group, consisting mostly of business leaders, plans to work with the Legislature and any future Marijuana Control Board to craft regulations.

Schulte said he expects people from both sides of the issue to come together during the rulemaking process. Marijuana legalization is a change for the state, he said, and one that comes with legitimate concerns from people. But he believes those concerns will be addressed.

“At the end of the day, (marijuana legalization) is a problem of a defined scope and schedule, and we know what the variables are,” Schulte said. “The only remaining question is how do we handle those variables and how do we do it in a rational way?”


Source URL: http://www.adn.com/article/20141105/alaska-faces-brave-new-world-voters-approving-legal-marijuana
Links:
[1] http://www.adn.com/author/suzanna-caldwell
[2] http://www.adn.com/author/laurel-andrews
[3] http://www.adn.com/image/ml-yes-2-pot-march-01-20141104jpg-1415176831
[4] http://i.imgur.com/JDKlcgN.jpg
[5] http://regulatemarijuanainalaska.org/
[6] http://www.drugpolicy.org/
 

nvhak49

Well-Known Member
A couple fine reporters at ADN have solid answers to your questions-

SNIP: "And don’t expect to see marijuana businesses right away. The board will have nine months to craft regulations surrounding marijuana establishments. Those regulations will likely be in place in November 2015. The board will then begin accepting business applications in February 2016, and begin issuing business licenses no later than May 2016."


Published on Alaska Dispatch (http://www.adn.com)


Home > With Alaska voters signing off on legal pot, road to regulation begins
Suzanna Caldwell [1],Laurel Andrews [2]
November 5, 2014
Main Image:
ML Yes on 2 pot march 01 - 20141104.jpg-1415176831 [3]
Main Image Caption:
Supporters of the Campaign to Regulate Marijuana Like Alcohol in Alaska march to Election Central at the Egan Center in Anchorage to watch results come in on Tuesday.
Alaska voters on Tuesday might have been the fourth state in the nation to approve recreational marijuana legalization [4], but residents will still have to wait before being able to use legally.

Alaska followed Oregon and Washington D.C. in passing initiatives on Election Day legalizing recreational marijuana. Championed by the Campaign to Regulate Marijuana Like Alcohol in Alaska [5], the newly passed Ballot Measure 2 will tax and regulate the substance in a manner similar to alcohol, allowing sales to only those 21 years of age and older. It will tax the substance at $50 per ounce wholesale. Washington state and Colorado both passed similar legalization measures in 2012.

When will people be able to legally possess and transport marijuana? Likely at the end of February, according to Cynthia Franklin, director of the Alcoholic Beverage Control Board. Initiatives do not become law until 90 days after the election is certified, which is tentatively set to happen Nov. 28, Franklin said.

But, Franklin warned, “Until that 90-day window has passed, those criminal statutes are still full force in effect.”

Once the initiative becomes law, personal use of marijuana by adults 21 and older will be legal. People will be able to possess and transport up to 1 ounce of marijuana, and grow or transport up to six marijuana plants, three of which can be flowering at one time. People can give each other up to 1 ounce of marijuana, or six immature plants. Smoking in public will be banned, however, and subject to a $100 citation.

What agency will craft the specific regulations remains to be seen. The Legislature has the option to create the Marijuana Control Board, which would be housed under the Department of Commerce, Community and Economic Development.

Even if a Marijuana Control Board is implemented, the ABC Board will still have “valuable insight” into the regulation process, Franklin said.

And don’t expect to see marijuana businesses right away. The board will have nine months to craft regulations surrounding marijuana establishments. Those regulations will likely be in place in November 2015. The board will then begin accepting business applications in February 2016, and begin issuing business licenses no later than May 2016.

“We’re starting from the ground up, basically,” said ABC Board member Ellen Ganley.

Alaska can learn from both Colorado and Washington’s rollout, Ganley said, and she anticipates tweaks to the regulations in the first few years as Alaska’s system gets up and running.

Making the rules
For now, the ABC Board is waiting for the final votes to be counted and the election to be certified, Franklin said. After that, the agency will draft a timeline for the rulemaking process.

“The process for creating regulations is a statewide process, it’s a standardized process,” Franklin said. “That means that there will be public notification and a public comment period,” and proposed regulations will be posted online.

Regardless of what entity is crafting the regulations, it will be under “intense scrutiny” from the 48 percent of voters who did not approve the measure, Franklin said.

“I expect it to be a pretty lively process,” Franklin said. “I think it will be transparent, and the public will certainly have the opportunity to provide input.”

Both Franklin and Ganley agreed that the ABC Board would need more staff to tackle a whole new industry.

“Certainly we’d anticipate if the work remains under the ABC Board there will be additional personnel and staffing needs,” Franklin said.

Both, though, are confident in the ABC Board’s ability to meet the deadlines outlined in the initiative.

“It’s just going to be a huge challenge, I think, but a very interesting challenge … it’s gonna be fun,” Ganley said.

Emerging interests
During a national conference call with the Drug Policy Alliance [6] Wednesday morning, campaign spokesman Taylor Bickford said with the measure approved, marijuana legalization advocates will now begin the process of figuring out how exactly Alaska will deal with the now-legal substance.

“The advantage we all have of legalizing in 2014 is that we can draw from the successes in both Washington and Colorado to build regulatory structures that work for our states,” Bickford said. “A lot of what’s happening can be replicated.”

Whether the Alaska campaign will still be involved with that process is yet to be determined, according to Bickford.

“We will have some role, but we're not sure what that will look like,” he said.

A spokesman for the national Marijuana Policy Project, the primary backer of Ballot Measure 2, said from here the group will be more hands-off when it comes to the state crafting its regulations. The group spent nearly $800,000 on the campaign, a majority of the pro-legalization side’s fundraising, which totaled just under $900,000.

Mason Tvert, director of communications for the Marijuana Policy Project, said the group will connect local lawmakers with experts and resources, but is unlikely to participate in the rulemaking process. Their role is giving local advocates the resources they need to create the regulations, leaving the states to craft rules that work for them.

“Our organization and staff generally won’t be walking the halls of the legislature,” Tvert said Wednesday.

But Bruce Schulte hopes his group will. Schulte, who served as the conservative face of Alaska’s marijuana campaign, has been heading up public relations for the Coalition for Responsible Cannabis Legislation. That group, consisting mostly of business leaders, plans to work with the Legislature and any future Marijuana Control Board to craft regulations.

Schulte said he expects people from both sides of the issue to come together during the rulemaking process. Marijuana legalization is a change for the state, he said, and one that comes with legitimate concerns from people. But he believes those concerns will be addressed.

“At the end of the day, (marijuana legalization) is a problem of a defined scope and schedule, and we know what the variables are,” Schulte said. “The only remaining question is how do we handle those variables and how do we do it in a rational way?”


Source URL: http://www.adn.com/article/20141105/alaska-faces-brave-new-world-voters-approving-legal-marijuana
Links:
[1] http://www.adn.com/author/suzanna-caldwell
[2] http://www.adn.com/author/laurel-andrews
[3] http://www.adn.com/image/ml-yes-2-pot-march-01-20141104jpg-1415176831
[4] http://i.imgur.com/JDKlcgN.jpg
[5] http://regulatemarijuanainalaska.org/
[6] http://www.drugpolicy.org/
Yeah my girlfriend showed that to me last night, I've got some time to put together a plan than, stoked to get this going once the time comes! Thanks man!
 

Cold$moke

Well-Known Member
FYI

To all those planning a visit to Alaska,
Every spring, myself and a group of friends scatter tens of thousands of seeds all down the sides of the highway from Girdwood to Talkeetna..... Late august is the best time to drive the "high"way up here!
Lol where at I know id stop if I saw them
 

FrozenChozen

Well-Known Member
$2.56/w sounds spendy. Do you have any pics of your LED grown meds? What does your stuff test out to?
my daytime smoke Talkeetna Old Man (Tom) tests at 15.7% thc 1.2% cbd...... Grouch, my night time insomnia meds at 23%thc 2.1% cbd.... 1996 white widow at 27%thc 1.3%cbd
This is an LED I made from cheap Chinese shit from ebay and a laptop charger, some cfls in there too and a broke down cheap Chinese panel.... hooked it all up to the killa-watt before I cropped and I ran at 370someodd watts and ended up cropping just under ten ounces (276 grams)

IMG_7018.JPG

Lol where at I know id stop if I saw them
all down the sides of the highway from Girdwood to Talkeetna!
 
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