sign online to stop Bill C15
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headband707
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I signed>> I realize they are asking for a lot of info. But because it's to stop a Bill it's shouldn't matter..
They need 2700 signatures and they have 473. peace out Headband707
Video Clip of Senate hearing on C15:
http://www.youtube.com/user/CannabisFactsForCdns
headband707
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Heads Up:
The full Senate of Canada votes on the amendments - and the third reading of Bill C-15 today, that is, Wednesday, December 9, 2009 at 5:00 p.m..
IF the amendments pass, the Bill would go back to the House of Commons to be approved again in amended form.
Should that happen, there is only one strategy that must be undertaken. The Canadian people have to be told what is in the Bill. It doesn't need calls to your MP, or demonstrations, or sit-ins or anything of the sort.
It needs a LOT of letters to the editor and to National news reporters and national news editors. The Canadian people simply have to be told:
If the Canadian people don't know about it and the organized crime excuse is maintained? Public support won't change and we're screwed.
If we are very lucky, and the media RUNS with the spectre of ONE plant and the University Student in the dorm room problem, The Canadian people's support for the bill will wither and the Liberals will not support that aspect of Bill C-15 at all and there will be more amendments.
Nobody wants to see university students going to jail for nine months for one plant (or worse, 18 months for ONE SEED). That is the story that will need to go out. Stay on message - we win. Fuzzy up that message with legalization talk or other details - we lose.
This is still a democracy. Voter's opinions matter. Allow the Conservatives to keep up this charade about organized crime - we're screwed. If the voters know the truth? We'll at least win on the amendment - and might well do better than that.
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The full Senate of Canada votes on the amendments - and the third reading of Bill C-15 today, that is, Wednesday, December 9, 2009 at 5:00 p.m..
IF the amendments pass, the Bill would go back to the House of Commons to be approved again in amended form.
Should that happen, there is only one strategy that must be undertaken. The Canadian people have to be told what is in the Bill. It doesn't need calls to your MP, or demonstrations, or sit-ins or anything of the sort.
It needs a LOT of letters to the editor and to National news reporters and national news editors. The Canadian people simply have to be told:
- that the Bill still provides for nine months for growing one plant in rented premises; and
- without approving the amendment that removes the mandatory sentence for a 6 month minimum for 6-200 plants, then compassion clubs in Canada will be forced to shut down.
If the Canadian people don't know about it and the organized crime excuse is maintained? Public support won't change and we're screwed.
If we are very lucky, and the media RUNS with the spectre of ONE plant and the University Student in the dorm room problem, The Canadian people's support for the bill will wither and the Liberals will not support that aspect of Bill C-15 at all and there will be more amendments.
Nobody wants to see university students going to jail for nine months for one plant (or worse, 18 months for ONE SEED). That is the story that will need to go out. Stay on message - we win. Fuzzy up that message with legalization talk or other details - we lose.
This is still a democracy. Voter's opinions matter. Allow the Conservatives to keep up this charade about organized crime - we're screwed. If the voters know the truth? We'll at least win on the amendment - and might well do better than that.
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Proof that Legalization is Certain within 12 years
Difference between MMJ cards in Canada vs. the USA
headband707
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Good news!
The Senate has accepted the proposed amendments to Bill C- 15 Vote 49(y)-43(n).
The bill will now go to Third Reading in the Senate, and then will be forwarded to the House of Commons.
This one ain't over yet; the Fat Lady has not yet sung.
There is the possibility of more delay, a non-confidence vote (remote as can be at this stage) and further amendments in the House of Commons.
We need to get the word out to the Press. Desperately.
The Tory Spin Machine will be all over this one.
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Proof that Legalization is Certain within 12 years
Difference between MMJ cards in Canada vs. the USA
The Senate has accepted the proposed amendments to Bill C- 15 Vote 49(y)-43(n).
The bill will now go to Third Reading in the Senate, and then will be forwarded to the House of Commons.
This one ain't over yet; the Fat Lady has not yet sung.
There is the possibility of more delay, a non-confidence vote (remote as can be at this stage) and further amendments in the House of Commons.
We need to get the word out to the Press. Desperately.
The Tory Spin Machine will be all over this one.
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Proof that Legalization is Certain within 12 years
Difference between MMJ cards in Canada vs. the USA
headband707
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Thanks GrowTech were going to need it lol peace out Headband707
headband707
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Point of order. It has not passed. It was amended by the Senate in a highly unusual move in terms of Parliamentary procedure.
The Bill now goes back to the House of Commons, after having been amended by the Liberals in the Senate.
If the Liberals in the House refuse to further support the Bill - the Bill will die. The Liberals promised in August that they would oppose and not support government legislation. This is by no means a sure thing.
When the Liberals last supported this Bill, we were only six months after an election. We will soon be at the post 14 month mark. While the Liberals are not in great shape right now, one more torture revelation or a smoking gun memo on Harper's desk arising out of that mess in Afghanistan could change all that in a day.
If the Liberals choose to delay this Bill further (which they clearly don't like - that's WHY the Senate amended it) and choose to ally with the Bloc and the NDP in putting the Bill through more hearings and to subject it to further possible amendments - there is nothing that a Conservative minority government - which is all Harper has - can procedurally do to stop it.
I would not bet the farm on that happening - then again - I would not have bet more than $100 that the full Senate would have ever amended the Bill in the first place. So, who knows?
Remember, at this junture last year, the Bloc, NDP and the Liberals had signed a coalition agreement and Harper's days appeared to be over.
A lot can happen between now and the time this Bill passes - if it ever does. It can be rejected outright or the government could fall to a non-confidence vote.
Should that happen, Bill C-15 dies on the order table. It's not as if it has not happened before. The prior incarnation of this Bill died on the order table, too.
While that surely appears to be unlikely - the point is this: The Fat Lady has not yet sung on Bill C-15.
For the fist time in close to fifteen years, the Liberals in the Senate amended a government Bill over the objection of the Government.
At the end of the day, never mind what the average Joe on the street wants. I assure you that Liberals in Canada are not for a US Style War on Drugs or for mandatory minimum sentences that will fill our jails. If the Liberals wanted that - they would have passed that legislation themselves during the prior century during which they formed the Government - with a majority - 75% of that time.
Whan crap like this happens, it's fair to say that all things remain possible and all options are still open.
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Proof that Legalization is Certain within 12 years
Difference between MMJ cards in Canada vs. the USA
The Bill now goes back to the House of Commons, after having been amended by the Liberals in the Senate.
If the Liberals in the House refuse to further support the Bill - the Bill will die. The Liberals promised in August that they would oppose and not support government legislation. This is by no means a sure thing.
When the Liberals last supported this Bill, we were only six months after an election. We will soon be at the post 14 month mark. While the Liberals are not in great shape right now, one more torture revelation or a smoking gun memo on Harper's desk arising out of that mess in Afghanistan could change all that in a day.
If the Liberals choose to delay this Bill further (which they clearly don't like - that's WHY the Senate amended it) and choose to ally with the Bloc and the NDP in putting the Bill through more hearings and to subject it to further possible amendments - there is nothing that a Conservative minority government - which is all Harper has - can procedurally do to stop it.
I would not bet the farm on that happening - then again - I would not have bet more than $100 that the full Senate would have ever amended the Bill in the first place. So, who knows?
Remember, at this junture last year, the Bloc, NDP and the Liberals had signed a coalition agreement and Harper's days appeared to be over.
A lot can happen between now and the time this Bill passes - if it ever does. It can be rejected outright or the government could fall to a non-confidence vote.
Should that happen, Bill C-15 dies on the order table. It's not as if it has not happened before. The prior incarnation of this Bill died on the order table, too.
While that surely appears to be unlikely - the point is this: The Fat Lady has not yet sung on Bill C-15.
For the fist time in close to fifteen years, the Liberals in the Senate amended a government Bill over the objection of the Government.
At the end of the day, never mind what the average Joe on the street wants. I assure you that Liberals in Canada are not for a US Style War on Drugs or for mandatory minimum sentences that will fill our jails. If the Liberals wanted that - they would have passed that legislation themselves during the prior century during which they formed the Government - with a majority - 75% of that time.
Whan crap like this happens, it's fair to say that all things remain possible and all options are still open.
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Proof that Legalization is Certain within 12 years
Difference between MMJ cards in Canada vs. the USA
I don't know if this matters, but here is a distribution list of Canadian Senator emails. I compiled it all, now to find out that I missed the deadline by 3 friggen days 
Anyways, like you said, a public awareness is crucial at this point.
I wonder if there is any point mailing the senators directly now.
But here:
andrer@sen.parl.gc.ca; anguswd@sen.parl.gc.ca; bakerg@sen.parl.gc.ca; gautht@sen.parl.gc.ca; brazep@sen.parl.gc.ca; brownb@sen.parl.gc.ca; campbel@sen.parl.gc.ca; callbc@sen.parl.gc.ca; carigc@sen.parl.gc.ca; carsts@sen.parl.gc.ca; champa@sen.parl.gc.ca; chapum@sen.parl.gc.ca; cochre@sen.parl.gc.ca; comeag@sen.parl.gc.ca; coolsa@sen.parl.gc.ca; cordyj@sen.parl.gc.ca; cowanj@sen.parl.gc.ca; dallar@sen.parl.gc.ca; dayja@sen.parl.gc.ca; dawsod@sen.parl.gc.ca; debanp@sen.parl.gc.ca; tessil@sen.parl.gc.ca; dininc@sen.parl.gc.ca; pdowne@sen.parl.gc.ca; mikeduffy@sen.parl.gc.ca; dyckli@sen.parl.gc.ca; eatonn@sen.parl.gc.ca; egglea@sen.parl.gc.ca; fairbj@sen.parl.gc.ca; finled@sen.parl.gc.ca; fortis@sen.parl.gc.ca; foxf@sen.parl.gc.ca; frasej@sen.parl.gc.ca; fruml@sen.parl.gc.ca; fureyg@sen.parl.gc.ca; grafsj@sen.parl.gc.ca; greens@sen.parl.gc.ca; harbm@sen.parl.gc.ca; hervic@sen.parl.gc.ca; housal@sen.parl.gc.ca; hublee@sen.parl.gc.ca; jaffem@sen.parl.gc.ca; johnsj@sen.parl.gc.ca; kennyco@sen.parl.gc.ca; kinsen@sen.parl.gc.ca; langd@sen.parl.gc.ca; charrf@sen.parl.gc.ca; lavigr@sen.parl.gc.ca; lebrem@sen.parl.gc.ca; losier@sen.parl.gc.ca; smithc@sen.parl.gc.ca; mahovf@sen.parl.gc.ca; mannif@sen.parl.gc.ca; martin@sen.parl.gc.ca; massip@sen.parl.gc.ca; mccoye@sen.parl.gc.ca; meighen@sen.parl.gc.ca; mercet@sen.parl.gc.ca; merchp@sen.parl.gc.ca; milnel@sen.parl.gc.ca; mitchg@sen.parl.gc.ca; mocklp@sen.parl.gc.ca; moorew@sen.parl.gc.ca; munsoj@sen.parl.gc.ca; murral@sen.parl.gc.ca; mcgeed@sen.parl.gc.ca; neufer@sen.parl.gc.ca; nolinp@sen.parl.gc.ca; ogilvk@sen.parl.gc.ca; olived@sen.parl.gc.ca; patted@sen.parl.gc.ca; pepinl@sen.parl.gc.ca; russem@sen.parl.gc.ca; lachah@sen.parl.gc.ca; plettd@sen.parl.gc.ca; poulim@sen.parl.gc.ca; poyv@sen.parl.gc.ca; rainen@sen.parl.gc.ca; ringup@sen.parl.gc.ca; rivarm@sen.parl.gc.ca; jcrivest@sen.parl.gc.ca; rompkw@sen.parl.gc.ca; kfl@sen.parl.gc.ca; seidmj@sen.parl.gc.ca; sibnic@sen.parl.gc.ca; smithd@sen.parl.gc.ca; stgerg@sen.parl.gc.ca; stewac@sen.parl.gc.ca; stollp@sen.parl.gc.ca; stratt@sen.parl.gc.ca; tardic@sen.parl.gc.ca; tkachd@sen.parl.gc.ca; wallaj@sen.parl.gc.ca; wallinp@sen.parl.gc.ca; wattc@sen.parl.gc.ca; zimmer@sen.parl.gc.ca
Anyways, like you said, a public awareness is crucial at this point.
I wonder if there is any point mailing the senators directly now.
But here:
andrer@sen.parl.gc.ca; anguswd@sen.parl.gc.ca; bakerg@sen.parl.gc.ca; gautht@sen.parl.gc.ca; brazep@sen.parl.gc.ca; brownb@sen.parl.gc.ca; campbel@sen.parl.gc.ca; callbc@sen.parl.gc.ca; carigc@sen.parl.gc.ca; carsts@sen.parl.gc.ca; champa@sen.parl.gc.ca; chapum@sen.parl.gc.ca; cochre@sen.parl.gc.ca; comeag@sen.parl.gc.ca; coolsa@sen.parl.gc.ca; cordyj@sen.parl.gc.ca; cowanj@sen.parl.gc.ca; dallar@sen.parl.gc.ca; dayja@sen.parl.gc.ca; dawsod@sen.parl.gc.ca; debanp@sen.parl.gc.ca; tessil@sen.parl.gc.ca; dininc@sen.parl.gc.ca; pdowne@sen.parl.gc.ca; mikeduffy@sen.parl.gc.ca; dyckli@sen.parl.gc.ca; eatonn@sen.parl.gc.ca; egglea@sen.parl.gc.ca; fairbj@sen.parl.gc.ca; finled@sen.parl.gc.ca; fortis@sen.parl.gc.ca; foxf@sen.parl.gc.ca; frasej@sen.parl.gc.ca; fruml@sen.parl.gc.ca; fureyg@sen.parl.gc.ca; grafsj@sen.parl.gc.ca; greens@sen.parl.gc.ca; harbm@sen.parl.gc.ca; hervic@sen.parl.gc.ca; housal@sen.parl.gc.ca; hublee@sen.parl.gc.ca; jaffem@sen.parl.gc.ca; johnsj@sen.parl.gc.ca; kennyco@sen.parl.gc.ca; kinsen@sen.parl.gc.ca; langd@sen.parl.gc.ca; charrf@sen.parl.gc.ca; lavigr@sen.parl.gc.ca; lebrem@sen.parl.gc.ca; losier@sen.parl.gc.ca; smithc@sen.parl.gc.ca; mahovf@sen.parl.gc.ca; mannif@sen.parl.gc.ca; martin@sen.parl.gc.ca; massip@sen.parl.gc.ca; mccoye@sen.parl.gc.ca; meighen@sen.parl.gc.ca; mercet@sen.parl.gc.ca; merchp@sen.parl.gc.ca; milnel@sen.parl.gc.ca; mitchg@sen.parl.gc.ca; mocklp@sen.parl.gc.ca; moorew@sen.parl.gc.ca; munsoj@sen.parl.gc.ca; murral@sen.parl.gc.ca; mcgeed@sen.parl.gc.ca; neufer@sen.parl.gc.ca; nolinp@sen.parl.gc.ca; ogilvk@sen.parl.gc.ca; olived@sen.parl.gc.ca; patted@sen.parl.gc.ca; pepinl@sen.parl.gc.ca; russem@sen.parl.gc.ca; lachah@sen.parl.gc.ca; plettd@sen.parl.gc.ca; poulim@sen.parl.gc.ca; poyv@sen.parl.gc.ca; rainen@sen.parl.gc.ca; ringup@sen.parl.gc.ca; rivarm@sen.parl.gc.ca; jcrivest@sen.parl.gc.ca; rompkw@sen.parl.gc.ca; kfl@sen.parl.gc.ca; seidmj@sen.parl.gc.ca; sibnic@sen.parl.gc.ca; smithd@sen.parl.gc.ca; stgerg@sen.parl.gc.ca; stewac@sen.parl.gc.ca; stollp@sen.parl.gc.ca; stratt@sen.parl.gc.ca; tardic@sen.parl.gc.ca; tkachd@sen.parl.gc.ca; wallaj@sen.parl.gc.ca; wallinp@sen.parl.gc.ca; wattc@sen.parl.gc.ca; zimmer@sen.parl.gc.ca
headband707
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Very kewl list lol I can't believe you missed it lol .... Very funny... I think that it can't hurt to let them all know we are sick of their stupid decisions.. I'm going to copy and paste it lol peace out Headband707