SIMPSONSAMPSONs soon-to-be-but-not-quite-there-but-will-be-soon 4000w journal

ok so i sat here smelling my fingers for about 15 min trying to figure this out. and it has a pungy lemony smell to it. oooooooooooooooooooo i can't wait.

bassmagicks said:

Huh. I guess there are just other non-HO U shaped fluorescents for other applications.
holy shit though! 500 bucks for a 4 lamp ballast? sweet jebus. Maybe i'll move up after my first crop sells. Do you think 216w of T5s would be enough to flower well, or would doubling up to 432w be equivalent (or even close) to the tt105s?

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i know they carry U-shape and halo style floro bulbs.. they are just standard though... the tt105's are made just for growing applications... unlike most that are just for illuminating... they are pricey for sure... but you get what you pay for in the end.. they are a little more than a 400w hps costs, but they put of less heat so you dont have to worry about exhaust as much... plus the bulbs last a long ass time... and they maintain their lumen output the entire life of the bulb... which is an added bonus...
you can flower with 216w worth of t5's.... just keep them as close as you can... the more the better so if you can add some extra floros in then go for it.. cant go wrong with doing that.. i wish i could say that 432ws of t5's would be similar, but it wouldnt be... i dunno how many watts you would need to have a comparitive setup... if i had to guess it might take 2 times as many t5's worth of wattage to equal the HO floro?? just a guess tho...

mygirls said:

ok so i sat here smelling my fingers for about 15 min trying to figure this out. and it has a pungy lemony smell to it. oooooooooooooooooooo i can't wait.

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that sounds lovely... i cant wait to hear how the high is... the seeds your getting, which is what i have going now, have a very strong sweet fruity smell... ill be sure to give you and TM a full report after harvest...

so me and a buddy were sitting here talking... and i kept thinkin of what MG said about taking a sample and trying.. so i couldnt help it... i know i still have like 2 1/2 weeks to go... but i just had to try it...
so i trimmed a couple small buds from a couple plants... ended up being a bowls worth dried.... i know this is horrible but we actually microwaved the buds to dry them out... just cut them up and went at it... yes it works.. NO its not ideal... it took about 2 minutes in 10 sec burts... we switched the plate after each 10 secs to keep them on a dry surface... once the plate was dry after coming out of the microwave we packed it and took some rips... we each actually got 3 rips a piece from the bong.... and DAMN are we high... i smoke out of that bong daily... so it takes something really good to get me ripped like this on one bowl.. and i dont mean i am 1 bowl high.. i feel like i just got done smoking a blunt.... fucking high...

the high is nice... a really good up high... instantly hits you... makes you either want to get up and clean or sit down and zone out... definatly takes away pain... i feel really good...

the taste sorta got destroyed in the wave.. but the smoke was INCREDIBLY smooth... like it had been cured smooth.. it was crazy.. ive smoked buds pre harvest before... nothing like this... there wasnt the harshness from the clorophyll... no burn from nutes... it was really good weed.. just looked like shit... and didnt taste...

so now im even more ready for harvest... it just cant get here soon enough... not soon enough at all..

Those HO fluorescents are nice....I think im gonna start a fund to pick up one before the year is out. How long did you veg your plants for?

The buds look excellent I cant wait till This crop is done....We are on the same day but my plants are smaller then yours...In a couple crops im gonna make a seed order, I was eyeing some G-13 X Deisel Mix...I don't know. I would like 2 strains..A morning weed and a night time weed...any suggestions?

like a kid in a candy store..damn i love budz

simpsonsampson420 said:

so me and a buddy were sitting here talking... and i kept thinkin of what MG said about taking a sample and trying.. so i couldnt help it... i know i still have like 2 1/2 weeks to go... but i just had to try it...
so i trimmed a couple small buds from a couple plants... ended up being a bowls worth dried.... i know this is horrible but we actually microwaved the buds to dry them out... just cut them up and went at it... yes it works.. NO its not ideal... it took about 2 minutes in 10 sec burts... we switched the plate after each 10 secs to keep them on a dry surface... once the plate was dry after coming out of the microwave we packed it and took some rips... we each actually got 3 rips a piece from the bong.... and DAMN are we high... i smoke out of that bong daily... so it takes something really good to get me ripped like this on one bowl.. and i dont mean i am 1 bowl high.. i feel like i just got done smoking a blunt.... fucking high...

the high is nice... a really good up high... instantly hits you... makes you either want to get up and clean or sit down and zone out... definatly takes away pain... i feel really good...

the taste sorta got destroyed in the wave.. but the smoke was INCREDIBLY smooth... like it had been cured smooth.. it was crazy.. ive smoked buds pre harvest before... nothing like this... there wasnt the harshness from the clorophyll... no burn from nutes... it was really good weed.. just looked like shit... and didnt taste...

so now im even more ready for harvest... it just cant get here soon enough... not soon enough at all..

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i have a wooden bowl i use.i set the oven on warm or the lowest setting possable put the wet weed in the bowl and into the oven middle rack w/ the door open about 1" tell dry. takes about an hour or two pending on the size bud you took. you get to taste it this way. its not as or even close to a full dry but its way beter the the WAV.

slipperyP said:

Those HO fluorescents are nice....I think im gonna start a fund to pick up one before the year is out. How long did you veg your plants for?

The buds look excellent I cant wait till This crop is done....We are on the same day but my plants are smaller then yours...In a couple crops im gonna make a seed order, I was eyeing some G-13 X Deisel Mix...I don't know. I would like 2 strains..A morning weed and a night time weed...any suggestions?

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good luck with the fundraiser slip... id help ya out but im sorta on my own fundraising mission myself... worth the investment tho for sure...

i vegged for about 3 weeks under two of them... well technically 4 weeks... i germed them all from seeds in dixie cups... i wasnt ready to plant them so i let them stay for a week in the cups longer than i would.. just to slow growth.... planted them around the beginning of feb.. germed a week... held a week... vegged three... so... 5 weeks?? yes 5, 5 weeks ah ah ah ahh.... just had the count from sesame street in my head.. dudes a pimp...

im not good with strain calls like that... we dont get much of a variety around here... and im pretty much gonna be in it for the $ now... jobs are weak.. economys weak... gotta make ends meet somehow right?? anyways... my personal favorites ive had are ak-47.... strawberry cough was amazing.. got that once... jack herer... thats tasty shit... and my buddy brought over "ed rosenthals super bud" this weekend... that was nice as well... blueberry is always great... and m39.... im looking into getting some heavy yielders when i order though.. power plant is one... seedisim has high yielding strains.. and there were some others.. but im to high right now to remember...

tilemaster said:

like a kid in a candy store..damn i love budz

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did you ever, for one minute, think when you were a kid that you would get excited to look at pics of weed let alone grow the shit or smoke it?? its crazy to think about me and my friends when we were little, out building tree forts, playin in the creek, riding bikes, playing baseball... because now we are all to stoned to leave the couch... NEVER would i have thought when i was a kid i would be like i am today.... but i guess even the crack heads and shit all thought they were gonna be firemen or policemen or doctors when they were kids too... just somewhere along their carreer path they took the detour and got lost...

mygirls said:

i have a wooden bowl i use.i set the oven on warm or the lowest setting possable put the wet weed in the bowl and into the oven middle rack w/ the door open about 1" tell dry. takes about an hour or two pending on the size bud you took. you get to taste it this way. its not as or even close to a full dry but its way beter the the WAV.

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i dont have a bowl.. what kind stoner am i with no bowl?? all i gots is that big ass bong... i guess i could dry it out on a pizza pan or glass cake pan and then pack it... i just got impatient... and couldnt think of a better way at the time.. good call MG.. next time ill be patient...

simpsonsampson420 said:

good luck with the fundraiser slip... id help ya out but im sorta on my own fundraising mission myself... worth the investment tho for sure...

i vegged for about 3 weeks under two of them... well technically 4 weeks... i germed them all from seeds in dixie cups... i wasnt ready to plant them so i let them stay for a week in the cups longer than i would.. just to slow growth.... planted them around the beginning of feb.. germed a week... held a week... vegged three... so... 5 weeks?? yes 5, 5 weeks ah ah ah ahh.... just had the count from sesame street in my head.. dudes a pimp...

im not good with strain calls like that... we dont get much of a variety around here... and im pretty much gonna be in it for the $ now... jobs are weak.. economys weak... gotta make ends meet somehow right?? anyways... my personal favorites ive had are ak-47.... strawberry cough was amazing.. got that once... jack herer... thats tasty shit... and my buddy brought over "ed rosenthals super bud" this weekend... that was nice as well... blueberry is always great... and m39.... im looking into getting some heavy yielders when i order though.. power plant is one... seedisim has high yielding strains.. and there were some others.. but im to high right now to remember...





did you ever, for one minute, think when you were a kid that you would get excited to look at pics of weed let alone grow the shit or smoke it?? its crazy to think about me and my friends when we were little, out building tree forts, playin in the creek, riding bikes, playing baseball... because now we are all to stoned to leave the couch... NEVER would i have thought when i was a kid i would be like i am today.... but i guess even the crack heads and shit all thought they were gonna be firemen or policemen or doctors when they were kids too... just somewhere along their carreer path they took the detour and got lost...



i dont have a bowl.. what kind stoner am i with no bowl?? all i gots is that big ass bong... i guess i could dry it out on a pizza pan or glass cake pan and then pack it... i just got impatient... and couldnt think of a better way at the time.. good call MG.. next time ill be patient...

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i found that the glass and tin or metal gets hot and willcook the bud.in a wooden bowl or even put it on a piece of wood. then enjoye a way beter uncurd buds.

wouldnt have thought about that until after i cooked the buds... thanks for the heads up.. gonna get a nice wood cutting board just for that...

simpsonsampson420 said:

wouldnt have thought about that until after i cooked the buds... thanks for the heads up.. gonna get a nice wood cutting board just for that...

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any time bro. oh your back in mypage.

glad that got fixed for ya... fuck tuesdays... always fuckin shit up..

so i am curious to ask... do you prefer outdoor or indoor and are their noticeable differences in them?

simpsonsampson420 said:

glad that got fixed for ya... fuck tuesdays... always fuckin shit up..

so i am curious to ask... do you prefer outdoor or indoor and are their noticeable differences in them?

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You just saved my ass dog...I thought it was monday...I need to by a calender. I figure if I can go another month without, it'll be past the point of no return for the year and I will wait till next year to get one...maybe...Thanks for the advice on the seeds...I have some time to get my seed order straight, I have this, next, and probally the next harvest after that lined up...so that gives me a few months.

5/26 day40


so check this bullshit out.. im sitting this morning... writing posts... chillin out.. took a bong rip... and all my lights went out... well everything fucking went out... i was like WTF... ran up stairs to check on the girls before i checked the breaker even and everything in the grow room was off too! so i propped the door open and pulled back the curtain door thing to let light in so the photoperiod would be ok till i figured out the problem... i ran down and checked my breaker and it was fine... ran over to my neighbors and they had power... so i walked around back and had a tag on my fucking meter that said they shut my shit off... again i was like WTF but i was WAY more vocal than before.. so i called utilities and they told me there was a problem with my payment.. something about the bank blah blah blah.. so i called the bank and talked to them.... got shit straight with them... called back the electric company.... told the lady what she needed to know.. she says "ok, well we will have that on for you tomorrow by noon"... i said "what do you mean tomorrow by noon".. she tells me that they have to process everything again and that she appologizes for the mistake and that they would have it on as soon as they could tomorrow... i went the fuck off... the mistake wasnt my fault.. it had nothing to do with me... and not only does my electric just randomly get shut off but they tell me itll be tomorrow before its back on... oh i was pissed as fuck.... well it took them 4 hours but its back on... the girls barely got any light.. i mean it was enough to illuminate the room.... but it was by no means direct light... just something, as i said, to illuminate the room... you guys think that ill have any issues?? im just pissed and cant think straight right now.. bout to go cut another bud and smoke it.. oh shit.. i gotta sow them seeds in the rockwool.... damn... it is a good thing i made them turn it back on... the seeds have been soakin since yesterday... i woulda been fucked.. i absolutely hate germing in paper towels... anyways... thats my story for today.....

slipperyP said:

You just saved my ass dog...I thought it was monday...I need to by a calender. I figure if I can go another month without, it'll be past the point of no return for the year and I will wait till next year to get one...maybe...Thanks for the advice on the seeds...I have some time to get my seed order straight, I have this, next, and probally the next harvest after that lined up...so that gives me a few months.

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its never to late to add lighting... why wait? if you can afford it itll definatly be worth the investment... itll pay for itself after 1 use... at the same time you could stash some cash and get some other shit to better your setup all at once if you wait... either way you cant go wrong... and your welcome for what little advice i can give you on the seeds.http://www.cannabis-seeds-bank.co.uk/feminized-seeds-10-c.asp thats the link to attitude seeds... if you havent been there it tells a decent amount of info on most of the seeds and strains they offer... if you have been there sorry for making you read that last sentence and this one as well although i am trying to see how long i can make this just to fuck around at this point because i think its sorta funny.... ok i ran out of this to say... anyways... check them out.. itll help you make a decision..

simpsonsampson420 said:

5/26 day40


so check this bullshit out.. im sitting this morning... writing posts... chillin out.. took a bong rip... and all my lights went out... well everything fucking went out... i was like WTF... ran up stairs to check on the girls before i checked the breaker even and everything in the grow room was off too! so i propped the door open and pulled back the curtain door thing to let light in so the photoperiod would be ok till i figured out the problem... i ran down and checked my breaker and it was fine... ran over to my neighbors and they had power... so i walked around back and had a tag on my fucking meter that said they shut my shit off... again i was like WTF but i was WAY more vocal than before.. so i called utilities and they told me there was a problem with my payment.. something about the bank blah blah blah.. so i called the bank and talked to them.... got shit straight with them... called back the electric company.... told the lady what she needed to know.. she says "ok, well we will have that on for you tomorrow by noon"... i said "what do you mean tomorrow by noon".. she tells me that they have to process everything again and that she appologizes for the mistake and that they would have it on as soon as they could tomorrow... i went the fuck off... the mistake wasnt my fault.. it had nothing to do with me... and not only does my electric just randomly get shut off but they tell me itll be tomorrow before its back on... oh i was pissed as fuck.... well it took them 4 hours but its back on... the girls barely got any light.. i mean it was enough to illuminate the room.... but it was by no means direct light... just something, as i said, to illuminate the room... you guys think that ill have any issues?? im just pissed and cant think straight right now.. bout to go cut another bud and smoke it.. oh shit.. i gotta sow them seeds in the rockwool.... damn... it is a good thing i made them turn it back on... the seeds have been soakin since yesterday... i woulda been fucked.. i absolutely hate germing in paper towels... anyways... thats my story for today.....





its never to late to add lighting... why wait? if you can afford it itll definatly be worth the investment... itll pay for itself after 1 use... at the same time you could stash some cash and get some other shit to better your setup all at once if you wait... either way you cant go wrong... and your welcome for what little advice i can give you on the seeds.http://www.cannabis-seeds-bank.co.uk/feminized-seeds-10-c.asp thats the link to attitude seeds... if you havent been there it tells a decent amount of info on most of the seeds and strains they offer... if you have been there sorry for making you read that last sentence and this one as well although i am trying to see how long i can make this just to fuck around at this point because i think its sorta funny.... ok i ran out of this to say... anyways... check them out.. itll help you make a decision..

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Thats Fuct man...I hate unexpected bull shit....At least your lights on is in the day...and you were able to get a bit of light...I heard the moon is equal to a lumen, and that anymore then that can cause your plants to maff.

I cant believe maff is a word in the spell checker... I wish you were in my town...i got a generator in the shed...I think the plan of the day will be to go check it over and make sure its good to go.

i think i am going to invest in a generator myself... damn i was tweeking the fuck out... oh well.. at least i was right minded enough to go check the girls first... had my priorities straight... but ya... the little surprises we get like that suck... and your right.. at least i got lights on during the day.. and im super lucky it is upstairs cause it would have been pitch black in the basement... but damn.. my house smelled like weed within 10 minutes... it took be about that long to get the door and everything propped so that light was being let in... but you could smell the girls EVERYWHERE in the house... i didnt realize how affective that carbon filter really was till today...

so at least a little good news... just checked the mail.. TM, the stork arrived today!! so time to get these all germinating and ready for the next go around... this is always a fun time... when one harvest is ending.. and another is beginning... and the circle of life starts all over.... new girls to watch... new shit to learn... only a couple weeks left.... and i really think i am going to hit the 2 lb mark like i need to to expand further... the top buds are puffing out crazy like and everything else is swelling nicely too... wont be long till all our harvests are done and we can all enjoy our labors!!

HOLY FUCK!! i forgot the most important thing!! while i was on hold with the elec company and while i was fucking around with the doors and shit i snapped a couple "dark time" pics... at least with mostly no light in the room.. only took a couple cause i was running around trying to get windows and shit open... but its a few... i will prolly take more tonight after seeing how good they look...

i watched a movie yesterday with simpsonsampson in it ,,it was funny as fuck

Dude first let me say those are some monsters...i think youll hit ur mark..how many are runnin in full bud right now? 2nd sorry bout ur electric ...thats booty as fuck..but i think ur girls will be alright...thank god it wuz up in 4 hrs..next morning would have set u off the deepend...im glad u got that blue..seems 2 be 1 of my best strains... im almost to the point of cloning 1 of my blues thats in veg..but i also planted 4more fems.. man so can u give me a detail on ur drying and curing methods..i want to build a little carboard box, probably a cple of em...w/ string lines and duct tape.. fan outside of the box..n e ideas for me sampson..also im dumpn so ..aslong as i fetch wut i want i care little ..so no 1 month cure ..

tilemaster said:

Dude first let me say those are some monsters...i think youll hit ur mark..how many are runnin in full bud right now? 2nd sorry bout ur electric ...thats booty as fuck..but i think ur girls will be alright...thank god it wuz up in 4 hrs..next morning would have set u off the deepend...im glad u got that blue..seems 2 be 1 of my best strains... im almost to the point of cloning 1 of my blues thats in veg..but i also planted 4more fems.. man so can u give me a detail on ur drying and curing methods..i want to build a little carboard box, probably a cple of em...w/ string lines and duct tape.. fan outside of the box..n e ideas for me sampson..also im dumpn so ..aslong as i fetch wut i want i care little ..so no 1 month cure ..

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i have had all 4 of the lamps going the entire flowering period.. i need the extra boost since they dont penetrate as well... 2lbs will only be a 1/2 gm/wat harvest so im hoping i can hit that.. ill be pissed if i cant..

yeah.. i would have been really really shitty if they hadnt turned my shit on till tomorrow... especially this close to harvest... would have sucked if they got fucked...

i am putting down 4 of the BB's and cloning the best one... ill prolly strip one down just for clones that way i can have a buncha clones to take more clones from... just keep them going for as long as i can...

for drying and curing here is what i do...

i cut individual branches from the plant... ill cut the large fan leaves off into one pile... and trim all the bud trimmings into a seperate pile for hash.. after i have trimmed them i tie a piece of 12" string to the bottom of the stem and clothes pin them to a string i have running across the room.. clothes pin just works well cause it can be easily moved.. and you can just clothes pin the stem right to the string if you want.. you dont need to tie a string to the stem.. i just did it like that because i had a lotta string to use... anyways... heres where things split off...

for buds im selling...

i will hang them for 4 days and cure them for 3... this drys them enough for sale, at least cures them enough to not be harsh, and seems to work fine for the masses...

for my own personal stash

i will dry for a week and cure for another week...

as far as curing goes i use 2 different things... i use mason jars for my own stash... they are cheap.. easy to store... seal well... and keep the buds great.. i store them right side up so they dont lose trichs.. and burp them about every 2 to 3 hours for the week im curing them.. for the comercial stuff i use plastic boxes with hinged lids... the plastic isnt an air tight seal so that helps dry the buds more since they only get a short drying time.... and i can fit a lot more in those than the jars as well...

if you get a box get tall moving boxes from like UHAUL or something.. they will maximize holding space... just duct tape it up first so that its solid and completely sealed around the edges.. then cut along the top, side, and bottom of one of the sides so it hinges open... i would recommend duct taping inside where it hinges as well as the outside of it for support... get some fishing line and some nuts.. like nuts and bolts nuts... push the line from the inside of the box out using the smallest hole possible.. tie the end thats outside of the box to a nut to prevent the string from pulling out.. do this on each side of the box to create your lines to hold the buds... space them out vertically according to the size of the shoots you are hanging... but you only need about 6" of space between them depth wise... then install a small computer fan at the top of one side of the box point to exhaust, and another one at the bottom of the box as an intake that should be good for air exchange... you can use a little latch hook thingy to keep it close or whatever else you want... just make sure the door can stay shut...