Samwell Seed Well
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Found a nifty feature on ehealth insurance that lets you factor in your subsidy. Pretty cool. Still browsing. Cheapest plan now 18 cents.
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Found a nifty feature on ehealth insurance that lets you factor in your subsidy. Pretty cool. Still browsing. Cheapest plan now 18 cents.
Obamacare sucks!!!
And only the people who dont want to work will get it forcing the rest of us to pay for it!!!!!
I have decent health insurance. My coinsurance is 20% for hospital care. My son had an appendectomy about a month and I am on the hook for about $10K when all the deductibles, and coinsurance are figured in. Still, that is better than having my son die of a ruptured appendix.
Then why did the Republicans push so hard for this individual mandate?
Why didn't they just say "YES" to the single-payer ObamaJomamallamaCARE at the beginning if this is their plan anyway?
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Shouldn't the blame be laid at the feet of those who stomped on it in the first place?
I don't understand how they can justify calling a plan gold/platinum if they are charging you 20% after deductible.
Some of the plans look good on the surface because they have low deductibles but then you see that the have 20% or higher deductable.
I am personally looking for a plan that covers hospitilization with no pay after deductible.
Look at the number maximum out of pocket
I think it's very misleading to suggest that the individual mandate was supposed to appease Republicans. In reality, Obama and the Democratic party were absolutely terrified they wouldn't be able to get their own members to vote for single payer, which is why the administration allowed the congress to write the healthcare law.
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The proof is in the fact that Obamacare barely made it through the congress. Single payer never would have.
Then why did the Republicans push so hard for this individual mandate?
Why didn't they just say "YES" to the single-payer ObamaJomamallamaCARE at the beginning if this is their plan anyway?
Where did you hear that Republicans pushed hard for the individual mandate?
This is news to me,
Do you have reliable proof of this? .
I only have the inadequately contested words of Van Jones and a fuzzy memory of a draft for ObamaCare in 2009 or 10 as "proof".
While this Republicare debacle is a hot topic for Americans, it is not on my highest priority list.
So, I rely on what you and others have to say on the matter, for the most part.
Now, tokeprep has offered me another hypothesis of action which I would like to explore more, if he has extra info.
If you have something to offer in contrast to Van Jones' commentary, please feel free to submit it.
However, if the Red Team didn't "push hard", what did they do?
Pull-hard? Stand still in a Dr. No B-boy pose??
Were any of them for single-payer?
I was just interested as to your source of proof, obviously Van Jones, doesn't fit that bill. I believe Van Jones is an admitted communist, correct?
An interesting theory.
Please, tell me more...can you give me some specific cases?
And were there Republicans in favour of single-payer?
I don't know. Is he? I thought he was a Democrat strategist with a familiarity of Social-Democratic perspectives.
What is your version of communism? Where is the line drawn in your eyes?
Interesting how quickly it derailed again.