SinCity Seeds Info Thread

Ray black

Ray black

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DirtyEyeball696 said:
I'm not a hater I'm a truther I have grown thousands of strains from many breeders and am quite opinionated when appropriate. I have popped so many seeds from sins that were supposed to be female or regs that bananad & a very small amount that turned out to be stable

And these I'll give someone cause I'm scared to pop em or anymore of their gear. I don't believe they have ac/dc like they claim or it would show up somewhere in the cross. The lame excuse of having to search for cbd is a joke, almost as bad as saying I have to search for thc in a strain That has thc.


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Just finished running a pack of the Sour Nightmare Kush

No Hermies

Shit is sparkling dankness that has a SLH twang to her in most the phenos




but anyway, no hernies
 
GreenLegend420

GreenLegend420

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Thefarmer12 said:
I think this was mentioned but anyone heading to the Las Vegas cup this year? My girl and I decided to fly in for the week/weekend from MI. Hopefully some of us can meet up and hopefully sin city will have a booth. Would love to try some goods from the man himself.
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I still havent seen or heard if vendor samples are going to happen or not like the first cup in CO?

If not and its only bring your own i wont go. Im not super cheap but i have no interest in paying someone to smoke my own.
 
Michael Huntherz

Michael Huntherz

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DirtyEyeball696

DirtyEyeball696

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akhiymjames said:
Since I'm the Sin City OG in here it's only right they go to me lol. I'll gladly take any Sin City beans nobody wants
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I'll send them to you James just cause your about the only one that makes half sense on issues. Everyone else just is in the business of defending each other's seed banks. And kind sir doubt all you want but in the end I'm the grower of these genetics and have the right to make analysis on the products outcome. Stop into the genesee county compassion club and ask a few members about me "Sonny" I have quite a name for myself from the community. Ask them how many strains I've popped. Don't just take my word for it. Do ask Greg and brad in the back corner of the club or ask Karen and Matt at table 3&4 or will and Michelle in the back or when you take a dab from Mohamed in the back ask him about sonny. Or Jan & dan that sits at table 11. I give truthful opinions on strains so other growers don't make the mistakes as myself in the past. This first turned into people helping others but quickly turned into a bunch of know it alls and arrogant people. The club is a good place to hang out and learn from others how to be the best not the cheapest. Pm me if you want those seeds


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Thefarmer12

Thefarmer12

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DirtyEyeball696 said:
I'll send them to you James just cause your about the only one that makes half sense on issues. Everyone else just is in the business of defending each other's seed banks. And kind sir doubt all you want but in the end I'm the grower of these genetics and have the right to make analysis on the products outcome. Stop into the genesee county compassion club and ask a few members about me "Sonny" I have quite a name for myself from the community. Ask them how many strains I've popped. Don't just take my word for it. Do ask Greg and brad in the back corner of the club or ask Karen and Matt at table 3&4 or will and Michelle in the back or when you take a dab from Mohamed in the back ask him about sonny. Or Jan & dan that sits at table 11. I give truthful opinions on strains so other growers don't make the mistakes as myself in the past. This first turned into people helping others but quickly turned into a bunch of know it alls and arrogant people. The club is a good place to hang out and learn from others how to be the best not the cheapest. Pm me if you want those seeds


OG#18
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I don't think anyone was attacking you. You just can't refute genetics. CBD is a recessive trait unlike THC its just a fact not an opinion. It womt appear as often as THC does.

I'm the last person to start shit on the interwebs, I just think it should be noted if incorrect information is being spread. Healthy discussions are good for the cannabis community and especially with something as important as CBD. I wasn't being sarcastic when I said I hope you find luck with other breeders. Tons of good CBD work out there.

In fact you're in Michigan aren't you? I have personal CBD projects id be willing to send you if you want to try something else. Good luck on your search..
 
Michael Huntherz

Michael Huntherz

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DirtyEyeball696 said:
I'll send them to you James just cause your about the only one that makes half sense on issues. Everyone else just is in the business of defending each other's seed banks. And kind sir doubt all you want but in the end I'm the grower of these genetics and have the right to make analysis on the products outcome. Stop into the genesee county compassion club and ask a few members about me "Sonny" I have quite a name for myself from the community. Ask them how many strains I've popped. Don't just take my word for it. Do ask Greg and brad in the back corner of the club or ask Karen and Matt at table 3&4 or will and Michelle in the back or when you take a dab from Mohamed in the back ask him about sonny. Or Jan & dan that sits at table 11. I give truthful opinions on strains so other growers don't make the mistakes as myself in the past. This first turned into people helping others but quickly turned into a bunch of know it alls and arrogant people. The club is a good place to hang out and learn from others how to be the best not the cheapest. Pm me if you want those seeds


OG#18
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I don't think anyone doubts you are a legit grower, though I appreciate the attempt at giving references. My argument that you should not be disappointed or suspicious is primarily based in genetics, I am not a brand whore for anyone:

Assuming the existence a simple recessive trait on a single locus for the high-cbd gene you were hunting for, like @OregonEliteSeeds indicated briefly; Given a first-generation cross between two plants carrying it heterzygously, then your chances would be about 1 in 4. Which is not a guarantee...

(All of which is speculation as far as I know. I think there may be at least two mutations on different loci, or they may be allelic, or the cbd traits could be a result of combining multiple genes? I do not know, if anyone does please share, I was unable to find the original research referenced in the article linked by @Thefarmer12 during a quick web search)

...and indicates your results still fall within reasonable statistical bounds. Your sample size is not large enough to give a meaningful P-value. You just had shitty luck. No hating on you at all.

Addendum: I used to breed reptiles, and corn snakes specifically. The genetics involved in corn snake mutations are somewhat involved, and probably a good way to learn the basics of the genetics game. There is a lot of information about breeding corn snakes on the interwebs that would benefit many cannabis breeders and growers, I think.

Oh shit, lookee here https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1462421/pdf/12586720.pdf
I will try to provide a quick summary of this, shortly.

Quickly...from scanning that study, much of which I do not understand, there is a co-dominant allelic relationship between thc and cbd, and while it seems to indicate we should be seeing more CBD expression than @DirtyEyeball696 saw, it is not that simple...and I have not puzzled out the CBG piece yet...maybe this is all old news to most of you, it was published in 2002, but I am having a blast. You could be right, @DirtyEyeball696 - CBD seeds; it could all be a dirty scam, if I am reading these graphs correctly. I doubt it, though, plenty of lab results out there to say otherwise.
 
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akhiymjames

akhiymjames

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DirtyEyeball696 said:
I'll send them to you James just cause your about the only one that makes half sense on issues. Everyone else just is in the business of defending each other's seed banks. And kind sir doubt all you want but in the end I'm the grower of these genetics and have the right to make analysis on the products outcome. Stop into the genesee county compassion club and ask a few members about me "Sonny" I have quite a name for myself from the community. Ask them how many strains I've popped. Don't just take my word for it. Do ask Greg and brad in the back corner of the club or ask Karen and Matt at table 3&4 or will and Michelle in the back or when you take a dab from Mohamed in the back ask him about sonny. Or Jan & dan that sits at table 11. I give truthful opinions on strains so other growers don't make the mistakes as myself in the past. This first turned into people helping others but quickly turned into a bunch of know it alls and arrogant people. The club is a good place to hang out and learn from others how to be the best not the cheapest. Pm me if you want those seeds


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Ayy bro believe I don't doubt you one bit cus I know how it goes when popping seeds. It's all a crap shoot I've had herms and nanners from Sin City gear but of all I've ran the quality has been very consistent. Regarding cbd that's a tough one but I feel where you coming from. All I will say is when you start crossing these polyhybrids and even tho you may be using a very high cbd parent recessive traits can come out so you really don't know what you will get. You would think you would get a high cbd offspring but that may not be the case. Numbers is what you have to run especially tying to find certain ratios of cbd to thc. Also every place that tests doesn't do things right way I'm sure cus numbers are all over the place for so many testing places but I hope you have better luck with seed popping and hunting. I think you just need to get a clone of a high cbd pheno already. That'll prolly be better since that's what your looking for and it's gonna be much more tough trying to find it in seeds.
 
Michael Huntherz

Michael Huntherz

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Michael Huntherz said:
I don't think anyone doubts you are a legit grower, though I appreciate the attempt at giving references. My argument that you should not be disappointed or suspicious is primarily based in genetics, I am not a brand whore for anyone:

Assuming the existence a simple recessive trait on a single locus for the high-cbd gene you were hunting for, like @OregonEliteSeeds indicated briefly; Given a first-generation cross between one plant expressing the gene and one plant not expressing the gene nor carrying it heterzygously, then your chances would be about 1 in 4. Which is not a guarantee...

(All of which is speculation as far as I know. I think there may be at least two mutations on different loci, or they may be allelic, or the cbd traits could be a result of combining multiple genes? I do not know, if anyone does please share, I was unable to find the original research referenced in the article linked by @Thefarmer12 during a quick web search)

...and indicates your results still fall within reasonable statistical bounds. Your sample size is not large enough to give a meaningful P-value. You just had shitty luck. No hating on you at all.

Addendum: I used to breed reptiles, and corn snakes specifically. The genetics involved in corn snake mutations are somewhat involved, and probably a good way to learn the basics of the genetics game. There is a lot of information about breeding corn snakes on the interwebs that would benefit many cannabis breeders and growers, I think.

Oh shit, lookee here https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1462421/pdf/12586720.pdf
I will try to provide a quick summary of this, shortly.

Quickly...from scanning that study, much of which I do not understand, there is a co-dominant allelic relationship between thc and cbd, and while it seems to indicate we should be seeing more CBD expression than @DirtyEyeball696 saw, it is not that simple...and I have not puzzled out the CBG piece yet...maybe this is all old news to most of you, it was published in 2002, but I am having a blast. You could be right, @DirtyEyeball696 - CBD seeds; it could all be a dirty scam, if I am reading these graphs correctly. I doubt it, though, plenty of lab results out there to say otherwise.
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Okay the study does say that individual progeny varied widely in their specific expression of thc:cbd ratio, so, yeah, just shit luck bro.
 
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higher self

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Damn I picked up Nighmare Cookies last but was torn between that & Blue Lime Pie. Choose the NC because I read it was a more uplifting strain but the flavor profile on the BLP sounds so fire!! Haaaaaaalp me, not trying to buy these damn seeds right now!

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Thefarmer12 said:
My bank account is crying right now...ugh lol
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I hope the reup wont happen until next month lol!!
 
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