Hey guys. Pretty sure I stunted my pokeberry autoflower growth. From what I've read I just have to water it less? I wanted some opinions. Two of the plants are 3 1/2 inches tall and one is at 3 inches tall. The temp in the humidity haven't changed. The pH test in the soil is neutral. Today is day 19 of the grow.
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BobThe420Builder
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Nutes and strength
Water pH and nute mix pH
Light and distance from plants
19 days, they look like 5 days old.. but burnt tips
Nutes and strength
Water pH and nute mix pH
Light and distance from plants
19 days, they look like 5 days old.. but burnt tips
Medium : burpees organic soil mix ( coco coir/perlite/ fertilizer), vermiculite.
No nutrients (yet) soil ph is still 7
Water ph 6.5
Light is 30cm away from leaf.
BobThe420Builder
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That's not soil it Coco
Probably needs water and nutes daily and 5.6-6.0 pH
Assuming it's Coco
Probably needs water and nutes daily and 5.6-6.0 pH
Assuming it's Coco
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BobThe420Builder
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Looks like Coco to me
It is Coco coir pre mixed with turkey manuer and perlite.
I will add fox farm grow big to it's water and see what happens. Thanks Bob.
BobThe420Builder
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Coco is watered with 1/4 strength nutes daily, pH of 5.6-6
Good luck on getting them going
Good luck on getting them going
Update** autos are back on track
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EvilScotsm@n
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You need to stop treating it like soil mate. I can see from the pics you're giving it a dry cycle and not watering nearly enough volume when you do.
Gotta do as Bob says or you'll fry the pots.
The nutes turn into salts and build up and up and up. Slows growth, knackers the ph and you end up getting lockouts. Makes it look like the plants are deficient no matter how much you feed.
Quarter strength nutes fed every day to full saturation and run off.
Do that and it's almost impossible to go wrong.
Don't do that and it's almost impossible to go right.
Gotta do as Bob says or you'll fry the pots.
The nutes turn into salts and build up and up and up. Slows growth, knackers the ph and you end up getting lockouts. Makes it look like the plants are deficient no matter how much you feed.
Quarter strength nutes fed every day to full saturation and run off.
Do that and it's almost impossible to go wrong.
Don't do that and it's almost impossible to go right.
MickFoster
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I agree with Evil.......coco should be fed daily to run off.......never plain water and never let it dry.
Your first pics were 19 days old and your last pic is 10 days later.......making your plants 29 days old.
These plants are 28 days from sprout for a comparison.
Your first pics were 19 days old and your last pic is 10 days later.......making your plants 29 days old.
These plants are 28 days from sprout for a comparison.
cowboylogic
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You will need to use cal/mag also. Unless they have recently changed its formula Grow Big contains neither calcium or magnesium.
cowboylogic
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Looks like you are just watering around the plant base. You need to water all of the medium in the container.
Alright I used quarter strength nutes and I have been using 2ml cal-mag per gallon. Watered to runoff in all three pot. I'll post an update in a week.You need to stop treating it like soil mate. I can see from the pics you're giving it a dry cycle and not watering nearly enough volume when you do.
Gotta do as Bob says or you'll fry the pots.
The nutes turn into salts and build up and up and up. Slows growth, knackers the ph and you end up getting lockouts. Makes it look like the plants are deficient no matter how much you feed.
Quarter strength nutes fed every day to full saturation and run off.
Do that and it's almost impossible to go wrong.
Don't do that and it's almost impossible to go right.
Word of advice when growing in soil. You can research this and verify it. Stick your index finger up to the middle joint in your soil. Pull it out and if its dry, its time to water. Still damp, dont.
MickFoster
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The OP isn't growing in soil........he's growing in coco.
Wattzzup
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It’s still good advice for soil
xtsho
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That is a seed starting mix. It has composted poultry manure, feather meal, and sulfate of potash. I'm not a fan of amended coco products as I prefer unadulterated coco that you can control the feed when you water. You would be better off either growing in soil or going to straight coco with or without perlite. And what's the vermiculite for? You don't need it.
Also, since you're growing auto's they might start flowering soon and you'll have nothing but a 6 inch plant with a tiny bud.
Why are you growing auto's? If you had been growing photoperiod plants you could have gotten them back on track and vegged them until they were a decent size to flower. With auto's those might start flowering in a week since they've already been growing for a month. Unless you have some reason for growing auto's like outdoors in short season areas or some kind of perpetual grow I see no reason why so many people are growing auto's. You'll get better quality and yield from photoperiod plants. It's as simple as changing a timer to 12/12 to get them to flower. Auto's are misleading. They don't grow automatically or any easier. They just flower without changing the light hours.
Do yourself a favor and get some photoperiod seeds and some decent soil and start another grow. Skip the seed starter mix and coco altogether for now. You're easiest path to a successful grow as a new grower is photoperiod plants grown in soil. Not amended coco or DWC which I can see in that last picture.
Also, since you're growing auto's they might start flowering soon and you'll have nothing but a 6 inch plant with a tiny bud.
Why are you growing auto's? If you had been growing photoperiod plants you could have gotten them back on track and vegged them until they were a decent size to flower. With auto's those might start flowering in a week since they've already been growing for a month. Unless you have some reason for growing auto's like outdoors in short season areas or some kind of perpetual grow I see no reason why so many people are growing auto's. You'll get better quality and yield from photoperiod plants. It's as simple as changing a timer to 12/12 to get them to flower. Auto's are misleading. They don't grow automatically or any easier. They just flower without changing the light hours.
Do yourself a favor and get some photoperiod seeds and some decent soil and start another grow. Skip the seed starter mix and coco altogether for now. You're easiest path to a successful grow as a new grower is photoperiod plants grown in soil. Not amended coco or DWC which I can see in that last picture.
There was no specific reason for growing an auto. It was the only seeds available at the time I went to several dispensaries. This is my first tent grow. I thought the pre-made Coco was good enough. Next time I'll be sure to order Fox farm soil. I think I have another month before flowering starts. I started an Afghan thunderfuck strain in the bubble boy. That was given to me by a friend. At this point with my autos I'm just hoping I can get at least 2 ounces of Bud from each plant and learn from the novice mistakes I made. Do you have any advice on the bubble boy that would be appreciated. I'm just glad there are forums. Again I am a novice so yes I'm slightly retarded.
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EvilScotsm@n
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're the dwc. Set it to 200ppm plus the water. When ppm starts dropping you go up 50%.
Wait for it to start dropping then go up 50% again. Repeat throughout the grow. They don need much like. Roughly 100ppm oer week of veg. So a 5 week old plant thats growing properly needs about 500ppm.
Ph to 5.5-5.7 and let it swing up to 6.3-6.5 before bringing it back down.
If you don't have the meters then get them. Extremely difficult to grow hydro without them.
Wait for it to start dropping then go up 50% again. Repeat throughout the grow. They don need much like. Roughly 100ppm oer week of veg. So a 5 week old plant thats growing properly needs about 500ppm.
Ph to 5.5-5.7 and let it swing up to 6.3-6.5 before bringing it back down.
If you don't have the meters then get them. Extremely difficult to grow hydro without them.