In case you're thinking about Lowryder 2, I just want to add that Lowryder 2 has potential to become pretty big. I put mine in a 1 gallon smart pot with the intention of keeping the size down, but it's far from the little 12"-16" tree with a main cola and 4 nice side branches I was hoping for. I'm guessing I should have went with a smaller pot, lol.