Smoke N Grow nutes versus Jack's Professional

riddleme

riddleme

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Well I did the boiling water thing again, this time at the begining of the drown. IOW I drowned her with boiling water. Her being the Mind Bender. Now I gotta tell I expected a bunch of things, none of them happened. My first thought was this would pretty much kill the roots so I had this idea that it would speed up the drowning time even more than the dark thing. I also thought she might stink more? and I even thought she might cry. When actually I guess I would have cried more than she did LOL She did stress, and the water actually bubbled in the pot, hell there was steam and the only bad smell was boiled peat, which was not appetizing at all. and instead of her leaves drooping they stood up and the serated edges curled upwards, she pretty much just started wickin even though she was in the dark and now 8 hours later she is still going strong even noticed a bit of foxtail new growth. All I can do now is watch her and see what she does :)
 
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donni101

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Cool. What did/do you think of the drowning process? compared to not drowning? or can I have the page where you explained this?


Appreciate it
 
riddleme

riddleme

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donni101 said:
Cool. What did/do you think of the drowning process? compared to not drowning? or can I have the page where you explained this?


Appreciate it
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Drowning is the bomb! it first appeared in the calling all new growers thread as part of a 4 part ditty on harvesting & curing starts around post #400 (or there abouts) and was reprinted in the truth about flushing thread where it is discussed further. There was another thread (that someone else posted) in the harvest forum section where other members talked about my post.

Most of us that follow my threads have done it and I for one will never look back, I'll always drown :hump:
 
riddleme

riddleme

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24 hours later and it looks like boiling water may in fact speed things up with benefits? the lower 2/3'ds of leaves are drooping already, while the top remain errect and curled, mind you the plant is in the dark. Also the foxtailing new growth is over a half inch so far, so buds actually getting bigger, I will keep watching and continue to report what I see :)
 
Boonierat

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WHEW! Finally got some good news just now... So I haven't been active on the boards much this past week because I lost my job exactly one week ago today, so been a pretty rough time. HOwever, just got a phone call and I start a new job...in an hour! I'm like half-way shaking from excitement and relief. So much coming up at once, having to move, grow halting, job loss, money issues... I'm literally just freaking bubbling over in excitement right now! I thought I would share some with yall. :hump:

Also, this means I can go purchase some green! :weed: It's amazing how remarkably clear my mind is right now after having nothing for a bit. (The pain sucked though.)
 
embry928

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I have to say you are right Stoner Barbie is a hot one for sure. I got to hang out with her at the cup after party she was really cool, and the only one who made it to the cup. Thanks you for comin Stoner Barbie! I wish more people came but its all good.
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Had a playdate with Stoner Barbie today, She came for the cup, I took her out to lunch then we visited the garden and she got to sample the GDP I chopped last weekend. Here is what I can tell you for sure, she is one cool chick, that kind every guy dreams about and drop dead gorgeous. Had a great time and really glad I got to meet her!
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WWShadow

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See you all in the MJ states have distinct advantages like these events. Anyway the reason for this post, Just exactly how good is CMH? I mean really, could it be that much better? the answer if you don't already know is YES but don't take my word for it check for yourself:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=400204418413&category=43555&var=&ssPageName=ADME:B:SEMK:US:SHOWI&emailtemplateid=31887038&sellerid=eJGfcJBwsRKcOY5YEOqGuw==&buyerid=gGJHhC/Sl6tPSf+LjO0+aQ==&refid=store

Riddleme, as far as I know is responsbile for putting together the pieces of the puzzle for CMH and now it is growing! the new grow space is already up and running?
 
Bonzi Lighthouse

Bonzi Lighthouse

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I really want a CMH but it means buying a new ballest. ugg.. my 400w electronic ballest is just a year old and not depreciated, but I need to repleace the current 400w HPS sooooo.
 
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Illumination

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WWShadow said:
See you all in the MJ states have distinct advantages like these events. Anyway the reason for this post, Just exactly how good is CMH? I mean really, could it be that much better? the answer if you don't already know is YES but don't take my word for it check for yourself:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=400204418413&category=43555&var=&ssPageName=ADME:B:SEMK:US:SHOWI&emailtemplateid=31887038&sellerid=eJGfcJBwsRKcOY5YEOqGuw==&buyerid=gGJHhC/Sl6tPSf+LjO0+aQ==&refid=store




Riddleme, as far as I know is responsbile for putting together the pieces of the puzzle for CMH and now it is growing! the new grow space is already up and running?
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My only reservation on their cmh setup is the ge bulb rather than phillips...from what I have found the spectrum is superior in the phillips as well as the phillips is open fixture rated...not sure if the ge is....


Namaste':leaf:
 
riddleme

riddleme

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Illumination said:
My only reservation on their cmh setup is the ge bulb rather than phillips...from what I have found the spectrum is superior in the phillips as well as the phillips is open fixture rated...bot sure if the ge is....


Namaste':leaf:
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All my research says Phillips is the ONLY way to go :)
 
Danielsgb

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Illumination said:
My only reservation on their cmh setup is the ge bulb rather than phillips...from what I have found the spectrum is superior in the phillips as well as the phillips is open fixture rated...bot sure if the ge is....


Namaste':leaf:
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riddleme said:
All my research says Phillips is the ONLY way to go :)
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Here's a post I did on the GE bulb and the HTG kit. Here's Philips chart again I refer to.:joint:
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Compare the Philips chart I posted to this one I found on the GE version.http://www.gelighting.com/na/business_lighting/education_resources/literature_library/sell_sheets/downloads/hid/106255_cmh_chromafit_sell_sheet_90445.pdf
bottom of page 2. Look where the 400 to 500nm range is in the solid 20's where the GE barely touches low 10's. 550 to 650nm is in the 40's for Philips where GE it's in the teens. It's not as good by those charts to me, but you can get the Philips bulb and use any HPS kit with the hood you want.
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Illumination

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Bonzi Lighthouse said:
I really want a CMH but it means buying a new ballest. ugg.. my 400w electronic ballest is just a year old and not depreciated, but I need to repleace the current 400w HPS sooooo.
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No digis except for one truly expensive unit by GE

here's a great deal on a mag coil setup...is what I have and I love it


http://www.htgsupply.com/Product-HTG...Grow-Light.asp

Bulbs:

https://www.lightingsupply.com/CDM40...R-4K-ALTO.aspx

Bulbs and info:

http://advancedtechlighting.com/cmhfact3.htm

More cmh info than you could need...lol:

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=72215

There are vertical versions as well as horizontal: there are also some out for regular metal halide ballasts

Also you do not want to use them in sealed hoods or cool tubes as the glass will block the uvb produced which we truly want for potency accentuation


Hope it helps and I love my cmh setup

Namaste':weed:
 
riddleme

riddleme

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Well I have to say that I must do this again to confirm everything I am seeing. As far as just pure drowning goes it seems to shave a few days off the wait, no big deal there. but the new growth was cool (it's bigger than a quarter), I have circled it in a pic so you could see and the frosty goodness, seen in the other pic is also a consideration, bad news is I did not take a pic before I drowned/boiled her, I admit I should have and will for sure next time which will be soon :) The other thing I noticed, though it took a few days was the skunk smell just kept getting more intense and as I said I expected this right away but it happened slowly, which I find interesting as it seems to be more related to the fermentin rather than the shock/stress???
 

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