So Cal cup. who's going ?

Why a scientific test won't tell you:
1. Terpenes change from grower to grower with the same cut, any experienced grower knows this. Factors include; nutrients used, additives, synthetic vs organic, and flush time.
2. Other grow factors (and prior mentioned ones) also effect thc percentages, such as light intensity, air ventilation, and tempature.

the end.
 
Grandpapy said:
But which one should I buy?
http://sclabs.com/tested.html?option=com_scl_tested&Itemid=551&view=grid&filter=&can=&dates=&type=Flower%2CIndica%2CSativa&test=&sclsearch=gorilla glue&client_ids=&limit=20
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the one that looks like all the pics in this thread so far minus that avocado covered in cheese or whatever that is. everything else was GG#4 even the guy who said "is this the legit shit" yes buddy thats the right shit. i've seen it a billion times and even that slightly blurry picture matches.


on that link you posted. the first 6 are def gg#4.
 
pottylungs said:
the one that looks like all the pics in this thread so far minus that avocado covered in cheese or whatever that is. everything else was GG#4 even the guy who said "is this the legit shit" yes buddy thats the right shit. i've seen it a billion times and even that slightly blurry picture matches.
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The 18% or the 33% thc?
 
pottylungs said:
this thread is kinda silly with all the back and forth. the guy who made this is on ICmag all the time, there's a huge close to 1000 page thread now with millions of pics. I've never even grown the glue but even i can spot the shit from a picture i've seen it some many times. light green whispy looking buds with calyxes that always point up at an angle covered in frost. pretty unmistakable once you've seen 200 pictures a week from different people every week growing it on the forums. if it's light green pincecone shaped buds and covered in frost it's prolly GG. hammerheads sig has a picture of a cup he won for growing GG. he was one of the first people who had it. if you don't believe anyone else. believe him at least.
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You've never had different phenos of the same strain that looked the same but provided different effects?

The silly thing about this discussion is that it's really unnecessary to take anyone's word for it. Anyone can walk into a lab and acquire proof. Yet no one has. I'm just wondering why that is.

As I've said, I have no idea what cuts every single person in the state happens to have. But you can't reasonably look at all those lab tests and think every one is working with the same pheno. Sure, some are grown better than others and that absolutely could contribute to the THC numbers. But most of them look pretty well grown and are still testing 18-24%. I'm not sure how anyone can look at that evidence and not come to the conclusion that most of the Gorrila Glue cuts going around are different than the original.
 
I don't put much stock into the test. If I was you get a clone and grew her the best you can and enjoy. I have had mine tested 1x... I got 26% but it means nothing to me. The test are not accurate IMO. 1 lab gives you 20% the next gives you 25% it's all bullshit. I only care about the Terpenes profile... Some of the people I gave the cut to got 19% ..dano doesn't know what he is talking about cali has produced some of the best cultivars there is....There are more poor growers then great growers. Commercial growers wont have the same quality as a small operation will. They want Yield over quality.. They just cant put the time needed into ea plant. Everything gets the same treatment, Same food, Same lighting, Same environment.. Makes a huge difference when you can treat ea plant individuality... I notice when I have too many in flower.....
 
Hammerhead571 said:
I don't put much stock into the test. If I was you get a clone and grew her the best you can and enjoy. I have had mine tested 1x... I got 26% but it means nothing to me. The test are not accurate IMO. 1 lab gives you 20% the next gives you 25% it's all bullshit. I only care about the Terpenes profile... Some of the people I gave the cut to got 19% ..dano doesn't know what he is talking about cali has produced some of the best cultivars there is....There are more poor growers then great growers. Commercial growers wont have the same quality as a small operation will. They want Yield over quality.. They just cant put the time needed into ea plant. Everything gets the same treatment, Same food, Same lighting, Same environment.. Makes a huge difference when you can treat ea plant individuality... I notice when I have too many in flower.....
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I think you're not understanding lab testing. From the same batch one bud can absolutely give you a 20% test and another a 25% test and both can still be accurate. There is definitely that much variance from bud to bud, more even.

It does seem unusual to me that you believe all bud grown commercially is automatically bad. Because greedy big business? lol. ok.

In my experience sacrificing quality for yield isn't a real thing. You know which plants produce the best quality? Healthy ones. You know which ones yield the best? Also healthy ones. Sure, different commercial grows vary in quality. But the goal of a personal or commercial grow is the same, healthy plants. If you don't believe it's possible to grow quality bud and make it commercially available than I suggest you get some more industry experience before commenting.

So yes, perhaps HPLC testing is all make-believe.Or perhaps the problem is a lack of understanding of science. I'm pretty sure every analytical chemist in the world would disagree with you, but what do they know?

Interesting how the labs are all testing the cuts from one source at around 30% and all the others closer to 20%. It would appear to be some sort of pattern except of course chemistry isn't a real thing so I guess we should ignore all of that science stuff and instead make decisions based on what some guy told you.
 
Dan, have you yet addressed the fact that the cut Hammer holds IS the one that all others are judged off of? While you may have (or think you do) more scientific knowledge that in no way makes you an expert whose opinion holds more weight than the original holders and creator of the strain in question.
 
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You sound like a blubbering idiot. I know all about everything you posted.. Go peddle your cut of fake glue elsewhere. I see what your agenda is now. trying to make money off of JW gg#4 name...... You think anything you post is gonna have any impact. your wasting your time. Stop posting that garbage in this thread its not even on topic
 
MedTree said:
Dan, have you yet addressed the fact that the cut Hammer holds IS the one that all others are judged off of? While you may have more scientific knowledge that in no way makes you an expert whose opinion holds more weight than the original holders and creator of the strain in question.
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You're still acting as if I'm saying that it's impossible that he has the real cut. I've said nothing similar to that. I've repeatedly said many times that it would be impossible for me to know what cuts every single person in California happens to personally owns. It's really not my fault you guys can't seem to understand this after I've explained it to you many times.

Scientific knowledge doesn't make an opinion hold more weight? Interesting. I'll have to disagree with you there.
 
Then what was up with the whole there's only 3 legitimate holders of GG#4 in California and you know who they are bit earlier in the thread?
 
Hammerhead571 said:
You sound like a blubbering idiot. Go peddle your cut of fake glue elsewhere. I see what your agenda is now. trying to make money off of JW gg#4 name...... You think anything you post is gonna have any impact. your wasting your time. Stop posting that garbage in this thread its not even on topic
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Do I really? Then how come there is a lot of evidence (not proof, but evidence) that what I'm saying is correct, and there is literally no evidence that what you're saying is correct.

What you are saying is that I should trust the words that coming out of your mouth is correct and that science is make-believe. Also that I'm an idiot for believing science over hearsay. This is a tough sell.

But hey, a lot of really talented growers in California are deep into flowering on their gorilla glue cuts. In about 3 weeks we will start to some of them harvest. If their cuts end up testing out 30% then maybe I'm wrong. But I don't think I am. We will see in a few weeks.
 
...but anyways back to the original topic what did you think about this year's cup? I myself had a great time and thank everyone who stopped by the booth and checked out the CBD offerings.

It was great meeting each and every person I talked to.
 
MedTree said:
Then what was up with the whole there's only 3 legitimate holders of GG#4 in California and you know who they are bit earlier in the thread?
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I don't know. Who said that? It certainly wasn't me. I said confirmed holders. Confirmed through analytics, not through pictures on the internet.

Would you agree that it's possible for a strain to have different phenotypes that look very similar but have different THC levels and effects? If you agree with that, then confirming a real cut by looking at a picture on the internet might not be as informative as analytical lab work.
 
Yes I most certainly do. I might be dyslexic and have some issues communicating because of that but I assure you I'm no noob

How about confirming a cut because the person who gave it to you was either made or found the cut in question ? How is that not the ultimate confirmation? "Yep, that the cut I made and gave you"
 
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I have no clue WTF your talking about proof of what? I see no proff . For the final answer testing proves nothing nitwit. it's already been posted in here why but you seem to be ignoring that. Stop being a tool and move on.

This is clone only..There wont be any other Phenotypes !!!!Only fuked up batches.. You really think all the cut's I handed out are fake. What planet are you on.. Looking at a pic is just as good as these bullshit test neither will be 100% correct but I trust my opinion more. analytical lab work wont tell anyone if its grape ape or donkey dick
 
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