so fuck the police?

Thread starter notoriousxander
Start date Jul 21, 2012

kinetic

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#101

The whole is the title of the Lotus Sutra in Japanese

Moebius

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#102

kinetic said:
Almost. Hows the ganja for the depression? It can be a slippery slope as I'm sure you know...

For me Ganja is the proverbial 'Monkey on my back' .... sssshhh I hate the stuff.

I started when I was thirteen, my mum used to ask me to light her joints on the cooker for her when she lost her lighter. LOL. Parents huh?

Anyways, it is a slippery slope but I combat the negative voices with self-introspection and keeping myself busy (when I can). ... Gotta knock it on the head though, the tabbaco in the joints has begun to make my gums recede. Not good. .. If I lose my looks I have nothing left. LOL.

kinetic

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#103

Moebius said:
For me Ganja is the proverbial 'Monkey on my back' .... sssshhh I hate the stuff.

I started when I was thirteen, my mum used to ask me to light her joints on the cooker for her when she lost her lighter. LOL. Parents huh?

Anyways, it is a slippery slope but I combat the negative voices with self-introspection and keeping myself busy (when I can). ... Gotta knock it on the head though, the tabbaco in the joints has begun to make my gums recede. Not good. .. If I lose my looks I have nothing left. LOL.

If you are trully ill (and not internet schticken) I hope the best for you, I have a good understanding of mental illness and addiction. It's a bitch that tears familys apart and brings them together like some fucked up roller coaster of trust, compassion, and deceit and fake smiles....

Moebius

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#104

kinetic said:
If you are trully ill (and not internet schticken) I hope the best for you, I have a good understanding of mental illness and addiction. It's a bitch that tears familys apart and brings them together like some fucked up roller coaster of trust, compassion, and deceit and fake smiles....

True as a heart attack. I'm loathed to moan or whine about it online, it would only invite ridicule.

Thanks for the good vibes though. I am lucky to be able to talk about it , others find it difficult to even express their inner turmoil. Thats when they really end up losing touch with reality. :peace:

:peace:

One thing I would recommend to anyone suffering similar .... Don't take 'their' pills and 'potions'. They are truly shit.

Edit:
Its strange that a disproportionate amount of Existential philosophers were/are depressives or eventually went mad altogether.

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus

#105

Moebius said:
True as a heart attack. I'm loathed to moan or whine about it online, it would only invite ridicule.

Thanks for the good vibes though. I am lucky to be able to talk about it , others find it difficult to even express their inner turmoil. Thats when they really end up losing touch with reality.

One thing I would recommend to anyone suffering similar .... Don't take 'their' pills and 'potions'. They are truly shit.

In ten years, I've taken every antidepressant in the PDR, singly and in combination. I've also used some related meds (mood stabilizers, neuroleptics, anxiolytes, etc. etc.) Now that I'm without insurance, I have none of them, and I don't think I'm worse off for it. cn

Moebius

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#106

cannabineer said:
In ten years, I've taken every antidepressant in the PDR, singly and in combination. I've also used some related meds (mood stabilizers, neuroleptics, anxiolytes, etc. etc.) Now that I'm without insurance, I have none of them, and I don't think I'm worse off for it. cn

In the UK all medication is free*. ... I used to collect the meds then throw them in the bin. Ive been in a couple of institutions and there I would just ask to take my meds with black coffee then spit them into the cup.

Over the past decade or so, Ive taken my meds less than 5 times. I was prescribed Anti-depressants Anti-psychotics and beta-blockers. .. When I did take them I found them to be stronger than Cocaine or even Ecstasy...

Anyways, like you, I don't find them much help but then again Ive never stuck to the prescription. Ive seen chemical Zombies at some of these places, not for me.

*income depending

N

notoriousxander

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#107

young and healthy, weed and shrooms are my antideprescents , the only other drugs i do is dxm , adderall, Xanax , all recreational of course

N

notoriousxander

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#108

Moebius said:
Some Christians may believe what you said others do not. Many Christians, Muslims and Buddhists have contributed to the very ideas which you say you 'believe' in.

With respect to the old testament view on the creation of everything ..... I don't know.

i know its just most christians ive ever talked to say this or well never know till we go to heaven

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notoriousxander

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#109

Moebius said:
Ok. Its just when you said you believed in Big Bang Science it threw me, since its so unknowable atm. ....... also, Creationism is not the opposite of the big bang science, its just another theory.

In Natural Selection unfavourable traits are passed along too.

I don't expect Scientists pre 1950 to know about DNA ... and this is my point. Rather than subscribe to an 'ism' as you seemed to when stating your belief in Darwinism, I prefer to see my knowledge as an ever changing continuum of ideas. I make no claim as to their truth.

I read that it was his relationship with his wife who was particularly devout. I think he published after she died but I'm not positive.

yes unfavorable traits are passed along but the whole thing about natural selection is eventually the ones with unfavorable traits will die off and can no longer pass on the unfavorable traits , (if the natural course isnt deviated as is the case with humans and the effects the having on almost every species)

and in my pesonal belief the fact that no god has come forth in any shape of form and made it utterly clear to everyone they exists an that they insists there followers have 'faith' is just to convenient , of course they all supposedly have some master plan where making it utterly clear is to easy,

also i believe his wife was devoute, but so were his collegs and that also played a major role in him not publishing his findings untill closer to his death, (not an expert on darwin but i do plan to learn more) this is just base knowledge

Moebius

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#110

notoriousxander said:
yes unfavorable traits are passed along but the whole thing about natural selection is eventually the ones with unfavorable traits will die off and can no longer pass on the unfavorable traits , (if the natural course isnt deviated as is the case with humans and the effects the having on almost every species)

and in my pesonal belief the fact that no god has come forth in any shape of form and made it utterly clear to everyone they exists an that they insists there followers have 'faith' is just to convenient , of course they all supposedly have some master plan where making it utterly clear is to easy,

also i believe his wife was devoute, but so were his collegs and that also played a major role in him not publishing his findings untill closer to his death, (not an expert on darwin but i do plan to learn more) this is just base knowledge

Cool discussion. Respect to everyone who contributes without turning into a fool.

Often an unfavorable trait can lead to a sudden and catastrophic demise of a species or individual. But Often the plant or animal copes with a seemingly unfavourable trait for thousands or millions of years, then 'something' happens in the material world and that unfavourable trait suddenly becomes an advantage. an example would be small mammals after the last K-T event.

kinetic

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#111

I spent my early 20's partying like a mofo because I thought I was bound for schizophrenia due oi family members illness. Though a little odd at times I was forunate not to be stricken..

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notoriousxander

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#112

kinetic said:
I spent my early 20's partying like a mofo because I thought I was bound for schizophrenia due oi family members illness. Though a little odd at times I was forunate not to be stricken..

Were all goin to die dec 21 so we might as well party and have christmas early, (i celrbrate christmas .im not christian. Well i could be if it ever shows me its real)

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notoriousxander

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#113

Moebius said:
Cool discussion. Respect to everyone who contributes without turning into a fool.

Often an unfavorable trait can lead to a sudden and catastrophic demise of a species or individual. But Often the plant or animal copes with a seemingly unfavourable trait for thousands or millions of years, then 'something' happens in the material world and that unfavourable trait suddenly becomes an advantage. an example would be small mammals after the last K-T event.

Which unfavorabe trait would that be?

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notoriousxander

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#114

Moebius said:
I was trying to remember what I meant when I said they are not opposites or opposed.

I see them as 'opposed' or 'opposite' in as much as any two different ideas searching for truth are opposed. ... I don't see how the difference is diametric.

One idea says 'let there be light' the other states that In a fraction of a second the universe exploded into existence.

One says it took 7 days the other 7 seconds*. ... the old book does say something about the earth,sea, etc stars being created in this time but its not so far of a stretch to say it really meant all matter. .... Anyways, Einstein taught us Time is relative to the observer, so I dunno ....

Since, Matter cannot be destroyed or re-created after the initial universal event, I see similarities and difference more than opposites. There are other similarities too. Both are likely wrong.

Another subject i love. Idk what refrence your mKing of einstien but time is not relitave to the observer. Time is completly realivebt to all that are observing it in the same form as time is a set thing. There is no going back or forward. Contrary to what i think itbwas stephen howking said speed and time have no corrolation. Speed will not mKe time slow speed or dieveate from its set path. If einstien meant time is realative in the means of feeling that is correct but to any observer here or anywhere in the universe (theoretical worm hole or not time is the same. But in the supernatural sorkdof heavin where god live supposidly 1000 yearz on earth is 1 in heavin , time would only be relevent to observTion if that were the case. Anyone understand where im coming from? Im not high atm

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notoriousxander

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#115

notoriousxander said:
Another subject i love. Idk what refrence your mKing of einstien but time is not relitave to the observer. Time is completly realivebt to all that are observing it in the same form as time is a set thing. There is no going back or forward. Contrary to what i think itbwas stephen howking said speed and time have no corrolation. Speed will not mKe time slow speed or dieveate from its set path. If einstien meant time is realative in the means of feeling that is correct but to any observer here or anywhere in the universe (theoretical worm hole or not time is the same. But in the supernatural sorkdof heavin where god live supposidly 1000 yearz on earth is 1 in heavin , time would only be relevent to observTion if that were the case. Anyone understand where im coming from? Im not high atm

aww fuck i think i just sent on about something you already knew. Stupid lhone. Samsung galexy s3 sucjs fucking Ss never get one

Moebius

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#116

notoriousxander said:
Which unfavorabe trait would that be?

65 million years ago. Mammalian life inhabited a niche corner of the echo system. Reptilian life ruled the world, in the oceans and on land and in the skies.

The rodent like mammals would scurry around for earthworms and other invertebrates in between getting chased by a various assortment of terrible lizards. This went on for millions upon millions of years.

Then, out of the depths of the cosmos appeared a giant ball of rock and ice and smashed into Mexico. BOOM . 3/4 of all life DEAD! Plant and Animal.

DUST IN SKY ..... NO SUN ...... ICE AGE ..... oh .... Cold blooded lizards not so clever now huh?

Enter the dawn of the mammals.

65 million years later ...... Probe on mars.

edit:
Got carried away there .. The unfavourable trait was size.

Moebius

Well-Known Member

#117

notoriousxander said:
Another subject i love. Idk what refrence your mKing of einstien but time is not relitave to the observer. Time is completly realivebt to all that are observing it in the same form as time is a set thing. There is no going back or forward. Contrary to what i think itbwas stephen howking said speed and time have no corrolation. Speed will not mKe time slow speed or dieveate from its set path. If einstien meant time is realative in the means of feeling that is correct but to any observer here or anywhere in the universe (theoretical worm hole or not time is the same. But in the supernatural sorkdof heavin where god live supposidly 1000 yearz on earth is 1 in heavin , time would only be relevent to observTion if that were the case. Anyone understand where im coming from? Im not high atm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_dilation

In the theory of relativity, time dilation is an actual difference of elapsed time between two events as measured by observers either moving relative to each other or differently situated from gravitational masses.

An accurate clock at rest with respect to one observer may be measured to tick at a different rate when compared to a second observer's own equally accurate clocks. This effect arises neither from technical aspects of the clocks nor from the fact that signals need time to propagate, but from the nature of spacetime itself.

Source: Wikipedia

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notoriousxander

Active Member

#118

Moebius said:
65 million years ago. Mammalian life inhabited a niche corner of the echo system. Reptilian life ruled the world, in the oceans and on land and in the skies.

The rodent like mammals would scurry around for earthworms and other invertebrates in between getting chased by a various assortment of terrible lizards. This went on for millions upon millions of years.

Then, out of the depths of the cosmos appeared a giant ball of rock and ice and smashed into Mexico. BOOM . 3/4 of all life DEAD! Plant and Animal.

DUST IN SKY ..... NO SUN ...... ICE AGE ..... oh .... Cold blooded lizards not so clever now huh?

Enter the dawn of the mammals.

65 million years later ...... Probe on mars.

edit:
Got carried away there .. The unfavourable trait was size.

Ahh very true. But that was just another accednt of the universe natursl selection and evolution are clear. We have fossils to prove it theres no denying it the only apperent reson for still believing in chrisanity is ignorence denial a refusal to accept facts and lies. Honestly. No sugar coating. Theres nothing to bsck there faith

Moebius

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#119

kinetic said:
I spent my early 20's partying like a mofo because I thought I was bound for schizophrenia due oi family members illness. Though a little odd at times I was forunate not to be stricken..

Touch wood ... Whenever I see someone with obvious mental issues, I think to myself, boy I'm not so far from them. I have a real empathy with the sick now. Fortunately, I'm a moderate to high functioning Manic Depressive and consider myself lucky to have 'some' tools to fight my corner.... Literacy, Numeracy, etc etc

Moebius

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#120

notoriousxander said:
Ahh very true. But that was just another accednt of the universe natursl selection and evolution are clear. We have fossils to prove it theres no denying it the only apperent reson for still believing in chrisanity is ignorence denial a refusal to accept facts and lies. Honestly. No sugar coating. Theres nothing to bsck there faith

Jesus Christ ... I think you're the only person on this thread to even mention it.

Focus man, Focus. What do you want to talk about here?

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