So is it necessary to flush? Was told other day it wasn’t needed.

PadawanWarrior · Jul 7, 2020

Shape Shifter said:
Chelation is a type of bonding of ions and molecules to metal ions. It involves the formation or presence of two or more separate coordinate bonds between a polydentate (multiple bonded) ligand and a single central atom.[1][2] These ligands are called chelants, chelators, chelating agents, or sequestering agents. They are usually organic compounds, but this is not a necessity, as in the case of zinc and its use as a maintenance therapy to prevent the absorption of copper in people with Wilson's disease.[3]

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I totally hear ya man. Citric acid works like that to help remove some Ca from soil. Breaks some chemical bond and allows it to get flushed out of the soil easier.

I'm doing organics so no flushing debate for me. I'd be curious what @Renfro 's thought is on flushing in hydro though.

Shape Shifter · Jul 7, 2020

PadawanWarrior said:
I totally hear ya man. Citric acid works like that to help remove some Ca from soil. Breaks some chemical bond and allows it to get flushed out of the soil easier.

That is what I use. It's what many professional flushing agents contain. Some contain ascorbic acid too. I use citric acid for the main pH down too. Works good for me using Promix HP.

Gemtree · Jul 7, 2020

Shape Shifter said:
This and if the intention is to completely flush the media, a chelator will flush better than just water.

Yup that's why it's better to flush with mild nutes than with just water. Fulvic acid is a good chelator I use it all the time

Sade · Jul 7, 2020

Gemtree said:
Yup that's why it's better to flush with mild nutes than with just water. Fulvic acid is a good chelator I use it all the time

I feed only a tea derived of each, seabird shit, and bat shit and carbohydrates

Shape Shifter · Jul 7, 2020

Urine makes a great chelator. So you might as well water with your own piss.

Gemtree · Jul 7, 2020

Sade said:
I feed only a tea derived of each, seabird shit, and bat shit and carbohydrates

Yeah I was just referring to synthetics. Organics have humic and fulvic already in castings and what not

Gemtree · Jul 7, 2020

Shape Shifter said:
Urine makes a great chelator. So you might as well water with your own piss.

Noice

Shape Shifter · Jul 7, 2020

It provides Nitrogen. It pairs well with the bat shit too.

Renfro · Jul 7, 2020

PadawanWarrior said:
@Renfro 's thought is on flushing in hydro though.

The only reason to flush is if you have a salt buildup in your medium. With hydro like DWC there isn't even any medium so flushing is pointless. Flushing before harvest is retarded, especially in DWC. You can't wash anything out of the plant.

Wattzzup · Jul 7, 2020

I flushed when I first started because I overfed those plants. Those poor plants. I think a taper off seems to be the logical thing.

bk78 · Jul 7, 2020

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Renfro · Jul 7, 2020

Wattzzup said:
I think a taper off seems to be the logical thing.

Definitely. Feed according to the plants requirements. In early flower the need for feed goes up. During ripening the need goes down but it still exists. A feed that is properly balanced for the life cycle will always provide better results than one that is not. Too much nitrogen in later flower for example is bad but that doesn't mean we should deny the plant access to potassium.

Wattzzup · Jul 7, 2020

bk78 said:
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You mean this isn’t the first discussion of it? 6 years and it hasn’t come up once on his screen?

Coalcat · Jul 7, 2020

I flush with brawndo.

Sade · Jul 7, 2020

Renfro said:
Definitely. Feed according to the plants requirements. In early flower the need for feed goes up. During ripening the need goes down but it still exists. A feed that is properly balanced for the life cycle will always provide better results than one that is not. Too much nitrogen in later flower for example is bad but that doesn't mean we should deny the plant access to potassium.

Yup mainly just fead brewed teas last 2 or 1 week left that way they are still feeding.

ChrispyCritter · Jul 7, 2020

I flush just for politeness sake. I don't want whoever goes in behind me to encounter a massive floater. Especially after corn on the cob. Jeez don't I even chew?

DMG_INC · Jul 7, 2020

always flush.

DMG_INC · Jul 7, 2020

always flush. even more so if you've been using salt based nutes

Kingsblend420 · Jul 7, 2020

Shape Shifter said:
When flushers convert to non flushers their cocks grow an inch. True story.

Of all the products out there, I’ll give this one a shot..wife will be happy...I’ll post results later

Oh jeez rick · Jul 8, 2020

Shape Shifter said:
Are you his lawyer or something? Pretty sure you're a flusher tho.

Nahh I grow organic douche never have never will

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