So my friends claims to have grown plants w/ a blacklight

xxtatiana

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Lyke a blakclight you know what i'm talking about? Can this even work? I didn't think so.. but i lyke to be proven wrong.. :blsmoke:
 

7xstall

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chlorophyll is actually there to protect the plant cells from UV (blacklight). this isnt' a wavelength that they use but it can help protect from fungus and bacteria. :)
 

xxtatiana

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chlorophyll is actually there to protect the plant cells from UV (blacklight). this isnt' a wavelength that they use but it can help protect from fungus and bacteria. :)
Thanks alot for not calling me stupid.. lol.. So no then?? Ok cool. I'll slap 'em in the face.. :peace:
 

Sanifsan

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Lyke a blakclight you know what i'm talking about? Can this even work? I didn't think so.. but i lyke to be proven wrong.. :blsmoke:
"lyke" is actually written as like...Same number of characters, no need to abbreviate if that's what ur tryin to do...
 

Sanifsan

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chlorophyll is actually there to protect the plant cells from UV (blacklight). this isnt' a wavelength that they use but it can help protect from fungus and bacteria. :)
you don't know what ur talking about...Chlorophyll makes energy in plants...the color of it is green and it reflects green light...hence we see the color of leaves being green...If anyone wants to work at night during the budding stage they can simply install a green light and work without having to worry about reverting the plant back into vegetative stage....
 

7xstall

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you don't know what ur talking about...Chlorophyll makes energy in plants...the color of it is green and it reflects green light...hence we see the color of leaves being green...If anyone wants to work at night during the budding stage they can simply install a green light and work without having to worry about reverting the plant back into vegetative stage....
Chlorophyll - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

just skip to the "chemiosmotic potential" part to learn about the role of chlorophyll; while it doesn't "make" energy it is important in the harnessing of sunlight. it also helps attenuate UV radiation, thereby mitigating harmful effects on the cellular nucleus.

anyway, like i said, that light doesn't help plants grow and no i didn't say you're stupid!
 

Sanifsan

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Chlorophyll - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

just skip to the "chemiosmotic potential" part to learn about the role of chlorophyll; while it doesn't "make" energy it is important in the harnessing of sunlight. it also helps attenuate UV radiation, thereby mitigating harmful effects on the cellular nucleus.

anyway, like i said, that light doesn't help plants grow and no i didn't say you're stupid!

Like I said and as you can read on wikipedia.org, Chlorophyll is involved in making energy...Once a photon from light ray hits the chlorophyll stack, an electron is charged up and once excited it is transfered along a route to a certain destination where along with the oxidation of water or seperation of H from O2 and CO2 in the electron transport chain and "forgott the name" cycle; 32 ATPs or chemical energies are created. I will not argue over If I am right or wrong as I'm a biology minor and discussing such subjects will take days....so actually chlorophyll is there more to make energy than to protect plant from uv rays, although that might be a byproduct of its evolutionary history or design (depending on which school of thought ur more gravitated towards).....Also at the bottom of wikipedia.org, section chlorophyll and photosynthesis (process of taking energy from light) you will find the following sentence/conclusion: "This proves that photosynthesis doesn't occur in the areas where there was no chlorophyll." So the process of energy making does not occur in the areas where there is no chlorophyll. Thus, I rest my case
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Sanifsan

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and no black light does not emit the necessary portion of the light wavelength required for either the vegitative growth (blue spectrum) or budding phase (red spectrum) of the plant; besides I've never heard of a black light producing as much lumens as other lights such as HIDs or even fluorescent lights.....
 

Sanifsan

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Bio minor cool indeed...But have taken enough courses with BIG guys like you to know the difference between energy production in plants and it's protection from harmful rays of the sun...OH yea and I'm a Philosophy major which is by far more complicated than biology or even Calculus III
 

7xstall

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it is a conductor, not a producer, Philosopher! don't use correlation as a substitute for relation because even though chlor is present in cells carrying out photosynth it's not proven to be the only mechanism of distribution for photon energy. some believe that it is nothing more than a sensor (in addition to attenuator); "gauging" the spectrum and telling the cell which process of metabolism to use, triggering calvin-benson and staging the migration of glucose to the roots for short daylight, etc.

yeah, i wanted to do the philosophy thing myself at one point. read too much of it in the clink i guess..then, took theo1020 and got my first C. enough pseudo-linguistics for me! i do believe philosophy is still an important study though.
 

Sanifsan

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As I said before I'm not here to argue over technicals...even though it took you a little over 30 minutes to respond to my last comment...I hate being technical....Also it's been a while about two years....Where did I mention producer...or hinted the meaning of the word, I believe i used the term involved....a more loose association(showing relation as you put it) term....I often find myslef entangled with english vocabulary as I am not from the states and actually moved here back in '98. Traveling around the world and learning new languages does take its toll on you when the language is not in ur native tongue....besides being technical, I can ask u something like, what type of UV light are u referring to?...UVA, which is not damaging to organisms; UVB; and UVC. Unlike UVB, harmful UVC rays are typically absorbed entirely by the ozone.
 

Sanifsan

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it is a conductor, not a producer, Philosopher! don't use correlation as a substitute for relation because even :hump: though chlor is present in cells carrying out photosynth it's not proven to be the only mechanism of distribution for photon energy.:hump: some believe that it is nothing more than a sensor (in addition to attenuator); "gauging" the spectrum and telling the cell which process of metabolism to use, triggering calvin-benson and staging the migration of glucose to the roots for short daylight, etc.

yeah, i wanted to do the philosophy thing myself at one point. read too much of it in the clink i guess..then, took theo1020 and got my first C. enough pseudo-linguistics for me! i do believe philosophy is still an important study though.

"not proven the only mechanism"...or did you not read my previous posts either....
 

Spittn4cash

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and no black light does not emit the necessary portion of the light wavelength required for either the vegitative growth (blue spectrum) or budding phase (red spectrum) of the plant; besides I've never heard of a black light producing as much lumens as other lights such as HIDs or even fluorescent lights.....
thats the answer rite there

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7xstall

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As I said before I'm not here to argue over technicals...even though it took you a little over 30 minutes to respond to my last comment...I hate being technical....Also it's been a while about two years....Where did I mention producer...or hinted the meaning of the word, I believe i used the term involved....a more loose association(showing relation as you put it) term....I often find myslef entangled with english vocabulary as I am not from the states and actually moved here back in '98. Traveling around the world and learning new languages does take its toll on you when the language is not in ur native tongue....besides being technical, I can ask u something like, what type of UV light are u referring to?...UVA, which is not damaging to organisms; UVB; and UVC. Unlike UVB, harmful UVC rays are typically absorbed entirely by the ozone.

lol i suppose this response took several hours to prepare then...

producer is another form of production which is the word you used directly prior to my address of the use of the term.

didn't get the impression you enjoyed "technical" things very much once i read your description of how the process works so i declined to be technical and point out the many errors, mis-constructions.

also don't know why you even bothered with these trivial posts, i answered a question to help someone and you chime in with useless crap, contributed nothing and you narrowed down which spectrum of UV would be most relevant yourself.

i truly hope you don't go around spouting out that someone doesn't know what they're talking about in real life...especially if you have limitations of the magnitude you demonstrate here.
 

babygro

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you don't know what ur talking about...Chlorophyll makes energy in plants...the color of it is green and it reflects green light...hence we see the color of leaves being green...If anyone wants to work at night during the budding stage they can simply install a green light and work without having to worry about reverting the plant back into vegetative stage....
What are you dissing that guy for? What he wrote was bang on the money, answered the question and knows his shit. You wade in with a bunch of shit about why leaves are green!

If you don't know what you're talking about stfu. From complete newb to expert in what is it now - 3 weeks?
 

xxtatiana

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Oh my goodness, maybe this thread did topple a little bit off the topic eh? This was not started to be a battle of the wits board or any other thing of the sort. Now boys, lets play nice. :)
 

Sanifsan

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What are you dissing that guy for? What he wrote was bang on the money, answered the question and knows his shit. You wade in with a bunch of shit about why leaves are green!

If you don't know what you're talking about stfu. From complete newb to expert in what is it now - 3 weeks?
with all due respect suck my D!*(

I"m glad you remeber how long I've been on this site....
Must have made an impression on you...You on the other hand, I don't know at all....And you're wrong just cause you've sided with him...and I haven't read the rest of your coments cause it's all opinions and no facts...the both of you....
 
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