so when do u give up on a plant and chop it down in hopes to save any bud?

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Jhaz

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ive had some lingering problems the last few weeks and cant find any help to fix it, the plants have lost almost all there fan leaves and the only green left is on the buds...when do i say fuck it and chop the plant?

only the 4th week of flowering on some 8-10 weekers...do i just let them go till there all way dead or what do i do?
 
skolar182

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If all the fan leaves are gone just chop it and make butter out of it or something... She's just going to die :(
 
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Jhaz

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theres still some and a bit of new growth but thats it...its looking pretty screwed up..half my plants are turning this way
 
tip top toker

tip top toker

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At just 4 weeks, leave it, see what happens. No reason not to, 4 weeks flowering on a 10 week strain is gonna be a pitiful sight. At 4 weeks though you certainly shouldn't have lost the fan leaves, do you have any idea why that happened?
 
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Jhaz

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no clue why it happened ive posted up pics of the plants over and over but nobody has been able to tell me what was wrong. here they are again
ph 5.8 meter is calibrated every few days and its always on point
ro water
feed 15 min a day twice daily..takes about same time to drain 930 am 730 pm
house and garden a&b nutes with calmag 5ml per gallon 1150 ppm total..i had at 1250 and i started burning tips so i backed it off 100
temps 65 night 75-79 during day lights on
2 fans one blowing bottom of leaves one blowing tops
had some powdery mildew problems since the beginning. treated with 1 ounce peroxide to 1 quart water then switched to serendade
440cfm pulling air out room, 6 inch intake fan
1000 watt hps air cooled hood 18-24 inches from tops of bad plants
used hardwater from tap at 520ppm up until 10 days ago

really i have no clue wtf to do and nobody around me locally knows either, i would love to save these plants ..there gonna give me a heart attack
 

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Jhaz

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did u have a opinion on the pics? 2 more plants started yellowing today, lookin like im gonna lose everything
 
skolar182

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Sorry dude, I don't know... I only grow organic in soil because it's so easy. I wish I knew why it was wilting so quick :(.

Someone help this guy he clearly doesn't have much time!
 
Krokaine

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im just gonna guess rootbound plants seem pretty big for those small cubes

but im a noob, without a grow under my belt so far........just making an "educated" guess

try a newer bigger pot and flush it for a week or so see if you can salvage your babies
 
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Jhaz

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there in 6 inch rockwool blocks, can you get rootbound in rockwool? the roots are to the bottom of the blocks..brwosing other forums it seem nobody has ever got rootbound from rockwool in hydro...could i not be feeding them enough? to much?
 
tip top toker

tip top toker

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The roots should be multiple times larger than the rockwool cub, they should be everywhere. Rockwool is not like a flower pot, in that the roots remain inside them, in hydro the roots are supposed to go fucking mental, on a different pc so no pics, but on an average sized plant i'll have a ball of bare roots the size of a basketball underneaths the rockwool cube.
 
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Jhaz

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it has roots going all over the place at the bottom. im only useing the base nutes from house and garden a and b...i havnt added anything else besides just base...i see other products there is flowering stuff u add on to...could that be it?
 
anonymuss

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Jhaz said:
it has roots going all over the place at the bottom. im only useing the base nutes from house and garden a and b...i havnt added anything else besides just base...i see other products there is flowering stuff u add on to...could that be it?
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ya there is no rootbound in dro so its something else. if u wanna give up just flush for a few days
 
brownbearclan

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Keep going, Ive seen worse than that bounce back just fine. To me it looks like they are wanting more of their Veg. food. I've been seeing this a lot on RIU yellowing leaves due to them wanting more of the N in the veg food they are used to. Keep up with the hydrogen peroxide in the res water. Also are you giving them anything for Cal/Mag?
 
the cloner

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the roots on them plants shud be like a carpet of white all over that flood table.
and try more flower nutes an check ph with another tester.the one u have may be faulty
 
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Jhaz

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my ph tester reads 7.0 every time i check the calibration solution..i do it every other day

im not using anything for flowering nute wise besides house and garden aand b aqua flakes http://www.house-garden.us/products/bases/aqua-flakes-2/

the roots are staying in the rockwool they have not left it, there is alot of roots all over the bottom of block but none on the table

the plants had started getting heavy and leaning to the side so i tied them up , could the leaning of broke some of the roots inside?

im giving them cal mad at 5ml per gallon should i up it?

im only feeding them twice daily for 15 min flood then drains about the same, shoul;d i add a mid day feeding?

should be any salt im useing a ro system for the past 10 days, after i switched from tap water i dropped the rockwool blocks and let them soak in ph 5.8 ro water up to the stem above rockwool and dunked them a few times, should i take some of the res water and feed them from the top incase there any crap in the upper blocks that dont get wet from the flooding?

I saw a product called nitrex http://www.planetnatural.com/site/nitrex.html could this help? some of the plants now have a tad bit of nute burn on the tips of the leaves at thats with ppm at apprx 1200

thanks guys for all suggestions im really trying to get these guys back to life..my larger plants just started yellowing today a few leaves would love to figure this out before everything goes to shit
 
Bubbleponic

Bubbleponic

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im a noob, but i think you are root bound. try putting them in a 5gal bucket....let the roots hang in sum phed water with lil air bubbles in it.... betch they bounce back!!!
 
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