So where do we stand?
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LowRider82
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well i think it differs on who u ask. but in my humble opinion its going good but could be better. stats are passing medical marijuana laws (even states in the bible belt are trying), North Dakota voted to grow hemp with a few more states to follow. Then you have the power of the Internet that people can use to research facts from fiction. Which to me without the Internet it probably wouldn't be where it is today. i say in another 5 yrs maybe less we will be able to at-least have doctors prescribe it. And if were lucky just maybe be able to go in stores and buy it and show its not a gateway drug the gov says it is.
De La Vega
Active Member
you really think 5 years?
It seems like so many powerful people will fight tooth and nail to keep it illegal, and whatever they are hocking (cotton, alcohol, cigarettes, logging) in full force...
you know, kind of like how the electric car was totally dropped off the face of the earth.
ChristianConservative
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MJ will be legalized when a majority of the Congress, the Senate, and the President vote in favor of legalization. Any Federal law can be changed by a majority of Congresspersons (21
, Senators (51), and the President (1). What if each interested person spent five minutes making sure his or her Congressperson, Senators, and President vote for the changes he or she wanted? You don’t have to travel or organize a rally or spend much money (just a few bucks for stamps). What it’s going to take is a steady stream of letters to each Congressperson, each Senator, and the President. Here’s how to get them on board:
1) Go to https://forms.house.gov/wyr/welcome.shtml to get the name and address of your Congressperson. This will take less than a minute. Do it now and you’ll have it out of the way.
2) Write the letter. Spend at least two or three minutes on it, check the spelling, and read it out loud to yourself to see if it makes sense. (Do this while your in a sensible frame of mind,). You don’t have to be a great writer; just stick to the point and keep it short, i.e, not more than one page.
3) Find friend to write a letter, too. Keep some writing paper, pens, envelopes and stamps handy so you can write together whenever you have company. This will encourage each other!
4) Repeat the process at least once a week. Make it your personal mission to do two things: Get a letter like this into the hands of your Congressperson, each Senator, and the President, every month (that’s four letters a month), and get some friends to do the same. SERIOUS NOTE from the world of politics: It only takes a dozen letters to create the impression of significant public interest; an elected official getting a dozen letters a week will really feel the public presence.
To see how it works, check out this School house rock video, “I’m just a bill” at YouTube - Schoolhouse Rock- How a Bill Becomes a Law
The Prohibitionists say mj leads to lack of motivation. Is it true, or will a few interested folks take this on and actually get this process moving?
, Senators (51), and the President (1). What if each interested person spent five minutes making sure his or her Congressperson, Senators, and President vote for the changes he or she wanted? You don’t have to travel or organize a rally or spend much money (just a few bucks for stamps). What it’s going to take is a steady stream of letters to each Congressperson, each Senator, and the President. Here’s how to get them on board:1) Go to https://forms.house.gov/wyr/welcome.shtml to get the name and address of your Congressperson. This will take less than a minute. Do it now and you’ll have it out of the way.
2) Write the letter. Spend at least two or three minutes on it, check the spelling, and read it out loud to yourself to see if it makes sense. (Do this while your in a sensible frame of mind,). You don’t have to be a great writer; just stick to the point and keep it short, i.e, not more than one page.
3) Find friend to write a letter, too. Keep some writing paper, pens, envelopes and stamps handy so you can write together whenever you have company. This will encourage each other!
4) Repeat the process at least once a week. Make it your personal mission to do two things: Get a letter like this into the hands of your Congressperson, each Senator, and the President, every month (that’s four letters a month), and get some friends to do the same. SERIOUS NOTE from the world of politics: It only takes a dozen letters to create the impression of significant public interest; an elected official getting a dozen letters a week will really feel the public presence.
To see how it works, check out this School house rock video, “I’m just a bill” at YouTube - Schoolhouse Rock- How a Bill Becomes a Law
The Prohibitionists say mj leads to lack of motivation. Is it true, or will a few interested folks take this on and actually get this process moving?
ta2drvn
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Unfortunately, you are not totally correct, a few states have passed laws or initiatives but the Feds still do not recognize the obvious difference between Hemp and Marijuana, as well as the FACT that you would have a bit of a difficult time getting HIGH from a plant that has less than 1% THC, kinda like non-alcoholic beer/wine.
There is currently NO hemp production in the US, hasn't been since the 60's if I remember correctly.
Entheogenic Shaman
Active Member
Hope this helps. With enough input from constituents, it might just pass.
Summary of HR 5843
An Act to Remove Federal Penalties for the Personal Use of Marijuana by Responsible Adults, sponsored by U.S. Representative Barney Frank (D-Mass.), would eliminate federal penalties for the possession or not-for-profit transfer of small amounts of marijuana. The bill would remove federal penalties at the federal level only: (1) possession of up to 100 grams of marijuana and (2) the not-for-profit transfer of one ounce (28.3 grams) of marijuana. Additionally, this legislation would provide for a civil penalty of $100 for the public use of marijuana.
Congressman Barney Frank - Representing the 4th District of Massachusetts
H.R.
5842: Medical Marijuana Patient Protection Act
Medical Marijuana Patient Protection Act - Transfers marijuana from schedule I to schedule II of the Controlled Substances Act.
Visit http://www.
rallycongress.
com/hr5843/1114/ and
https://secure2. convio. net/mpp/site/Advocacy?pagename=homepage&page=UserAction&id=177&autologin=true&JServSessionIdr009=uvsc834pf4. app13a
to support these bills.
Summary of HR 5843
An Act to Remove Federal Penalties for the Personal Use of Marijuana by Responsible Adults, sponsored by U.S. Representative Barney Frank (D-Mass.), would eliminate federal penalties for the possession or not-for-profit transfer of small amounts of marijuana. The bill would remove federal penalties at the federal level only: (1) possession of up to 100 grams of marijuana and (2) the not-for-profit transfer of one ounce (28.3 grams) of marijuana. Additionally, this legislation would provide for a civil penalty of $100 for the public use of marijuana.
Congressman Barney Frank - Representing the 4th District of Massachusetts
H.R.
5842: Medical Marijuana Patient Protection Act
Medical Marijuana Patient Protection Act - Transfers marijuana from schedule I to schedule II of the Controlled Substances Act.
Visit http://www.
rallycongress.
com/hr5843/1114/ and
https://secure2. convio. net/mpp/site/Advocacy?pagename=homepage&page=UserAction&id=177&autologin=true&JServSessionIdr009=uvsc834pf4. app13a
to support these bills.
korvette1977
Well-Known Member
I think you have a better chance at seeing God ,,, The "Old Money" still control's everything,
Entheogenic Shaman
Active Member
This may be so, but at least we are seeing plausible initiatives being introduced. It is high time (LOL) that these politicians got off of their lazy lobyist money taking asses and voted the will of the people.
WWgrower
Well-Known Member
It is legal in several states mainly in the west but Michigan in November is up for a vote for decriminalization. What is being discussed here is for the whole United States. I don't see it happening for the whole country anytime soon. Here in New York several years ago we voted on Medical Marijuana. It passed by a overwhelming majority. When the then governor heard of this he said he would prosecute if anyone was found to be prescribing and or distributing and using. To the full extent of the law. One other thing everyyear there are bills of this nature. Last election Maurice Hinchey put a bill like this in. Like all the others it stalls and dies from lack of support.
smokertoker
Well-Known Member
Politicians are afraid of this issue. We need to be writing our politicans and letting them know what we support and why we support it. If they know we support something they are going to do what they need to do to get re-elected. If not, don't re-elect.
Entheogenic Shaman
Active Member
Here is a link to email your congressman about this issue.
Support HR5843 and HR5842 | Support HR5842 & 5843
Support HR5843 and HR5842 | Support HR5842 & 5843
ta2drvn
Well-Known Member
Not this time around,
Like Enthe said:
It is high time (LOL) that these politicians got off of their lazy lobyist money taking asses and voted the will of the people.
Go to the gov web site and check out who voted yes or no, you might be surprised. I looked it up and found EVERY one of those idiot from around my area voted against this measure!
In other words they all said 'FUC* YOU constituents, 'I' don't care about STATE LAW it doesn't really matter! 'I' don't believe in MMJ like the voters that elected me, so I'll vote to continue to waste Federal funds imprisoning those that voted for me!"
Well next time around maybe we should all say
right back at 'em! It would be kinda cool to be able to prosecute a politician for treason against the state they represent when they vote for Federal laws that oppose State Laws... (well maybe there could be some problems with that one but you know what I am saying, scare the shi* out of politicians that vote for their pocketbooks instead of their constituents). 
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ChristianConservative
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Thought there might be some interest in this link to an op-ed about the upcoming vote on the Hinchey-Rohrabacher amendment. This would be a great time for interested parties to get some letters to Congress, whichever way they (the writers) lean on this issue.
Focus Alert
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earlymorninstonepeomp
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Slowly but surely the country as a whole will come around. This is an archaic "oldschool" law originally intended to stop the flow of Mexicans into the country at the start of the depression.Everyone realizes that but right now, politically the moods not condusive for change. I think when the tail end of the boomer generation gets into their 60's, you'll see a total decriminalization. So 15-20 yrs from now it will be a non issue. Right now too many legislators either are or we're influenced by the good ole boy network....the one to the far right and to them its still an evil weed. Regan really made it look bad in his days. If it weren't for him and his "just say no" war i think we'd be alot further along with removing the stigma. everything else aside Obama is a step in the right direction as far as the mood he will set. Amazes me how some of these judges can hammer people the way they do over weed. Seems to me to be an outdated and almost cruel law.
stonerboy1
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i cant wait till its legalized