SOG vs. long veg times

Best method for quality and quanity

  • SOG, rooted clones go straight into flower

    Votes: 19 25.7%

  • Veg till plants are 12-18 inches and then flower

    Votes: 55 74.3%
  • Total voters
    74
papapayne

papapayne

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So have had my first harvest dried and cured up, and am working on my 2nd harvest which is in 1 month into flower now and a 3rd harvest which is 10 days into flower. What I am wondering is what you guys think is better for quality and quanity. Is it better to run a SOG method and put rooted clones straight into flower or if its better to have a long veg time to get them big. What I have been doing is vegging till they are approx 13-18 inches tall. So approx a month of veg time. I have 15 strains to work with as well. I have for flower a 600 and a 430 but am going to be using some money to get a few more HPS for flower, prob 2 more 600s
 
if i had the time i would veg longer under 1/3 the wattage of my flowering lights. because first 2 weeks of flower they fill up thier space anyways. you have to look at it like this a in the first 2 weeks of flower a plant will double or triple it size. so say you want a six foot plant you would only have to veg to 3ft-4ft. so when i veh my plant for my i think hey my lights are 3ft from the floor and i have a 4 foot ceiling so ican only veg my plant to like 6in-1ft height so i optimize my my space.
 
papapayne said:
What I am wondering is what you guys think is better for quality and quanity. Is it better to run a SOG method and put rooted clones straight into flower or if its better to have a long veg time to get them big. What I have been doing is vegging till they are approx 13-18 inches tall. So approx a month of veg time. I have 15 strains to work with as well. I have for flower a 600 and a 430 but am going to be using some money to get a few more HPS for flower, prob 2 more 600s
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Personally, the more veg time you can get the better in terms of root development, which is the key in my mind. Healthy roots, happy plant. I am scrogging, but if I was doing SOG I would still vote for more veg time, more veg+more budsites=more FUN!
 
To me it's strain dependent. I've got a Magic Bud plant that will go all bonsai on me if I try to flower it straight from clone. On the other hand I've got a Tangerine Dream pheno that will grow a very impressive kola straight from clone.
 
i think it depends on the grower , some people can kill in a waterfarm ,SCOTTY BALLS , some people wreck in vert HEATH ROBBISON , you have to find what works for you
 
Vertical, SOG, small plants, proper genetics. Just check out some of Heath Robinsons grows. You can do well growing a number of ways, but I think in terms of turnaround and overall production it's hard to beat a SOG.
 
polyarcturus said:
SOG USERS UNITED! fast turnarounds and big yields WEEKLY
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i have done stupid big sogs and take it as you like its not worth doing i have vegged 5 weeks 6000 watts per room finished height was 6 feet tall only to achieve 6 pounds per 80 plants
the problem is lots of lower buds become under developed and turn into shake or what ever sog your really only achieving 1/4 of the plant thats top half under parts turn into hash or what ever some people got to realize more plants dont mean more yields
Why do i say this cause i took same strain did 4 plant scrog vegged 6 weeks under 2000 watts and got me 4 pounds anyonwe can clearly see less is better least in my books my next grow will be 16 plant 16 pound harvest 8 x 20 scrog 6000 watts c02
 

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iamAK47 said:
S.O.G a.k.a Life without parole growing techniqe

be smart n veg them bitches
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haha i like this one.
ideally you should go for a PERPETUAL grow WITH 2 WK VEG. just make a veg room, which you probly have for the mother anyway. you dont need a sog to harvest every 2 wks.
 
FranJan said:
To me it's strain dependent. I've got a Magic Bud plant that will go all bonsai on me if I try to flower it straight from clone. On the other hand I've got a Tangerine Dream pheno that will grow a very impressive kola straight from clone.
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thats what i was thinking , i had to veg my la cons to 3 feet before switching to 12\12 to get 4 foot plants .
 
lighting said:
i have done stupid big sogs and take it as you like its not worth doing i have vegged 5 weeks 6000 watts per room finished height was 6 feet tall only to achieve 6 pounds per 80 plants
the problem is lots of lower buds become under developed and turn into shake or what ever sog your really only achieving 1/4 of the plant thats top half under parts turn into hash or what ever some people got to realize more plants dont mean more yields
Why do i say this cause i took same strain did 4 plant scrog vegged 6 weeks under 2000 watts and got me 4 pounds anyonwe can clearly see less is better least in my books my next grow will be 16 plant 16 pound harvest 8 x 20 scrog 6000 watts c02
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sweet dude dude sweet
 
SOG ftw but then when u flower your 5month old mother plant cuz iz too big in da veg room it turns into a monster SOG = flower when 14 inchs tall ,
5month veg scary monster really its too big.
 
I veg for about 5 weeks or so usually. I FIM at 12" and lollypop right before flipping. I use 18" tomato cages instead of ScrOG or SOG because I like to have the ability to move the plants if I need too. This works well for me.
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Hey, eventhough I like SOG very much and it is strain dependent as mentioned...it's a guaranteed way to be Bubba's new bitch. Unless ur willing to do the time don't risk the numbers associated with the SOG method. Yeah the turnaround is quick and it's great for small spaces but some strains are not suited to the donkey dick method. Just ma 2 cents...I'm with iamAK47...peace!
 
iamAK47 said:
S.O.G a.k.a Bubbaponics
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LOL. That's so perfect. It should be called that! All I know is I had to have some work done to a leaking radiator valve in my grow room this winter and that it's nice when your grow fits into a few 55 gallon containers. The guys from my building's maintenance crew were in that room working for 45 minutes or so with those plants, (80 + Moms I think), and gear all packed up to look like it was just camping equipment. They didn't see/smell a thing. Now do that with a 3+ foot tree.
 
FranJan said:
LOL. That's so perfect. It should be called that! All I know is I had to have some work done to a leaking radiator valve in my grow room this winter and that it's nice when your grow fits into a few 55 gallon containers. The guys from my building's maintenance crew were in that room working for 45 minutes or so with those plants, (80 + Moms I think), and gear all packed up to look like it was just camping equipment. They didn't see/smell a thing. Now do that with a 3+ foot tree.
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happened to me on friday the 13, GAS MAN, my area is so small but productive you would never know it was there he sure didnt
 
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