Soil Food Web Gardening with Compost Teas

headtreep said:

We can't use tap here cause it's straight nasty in Phoenix. I use nothing but RO water. I have a 2 and 5 stage and depending on which is closer is the one I use but typically the 2 stage.

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This is true! Dont drink the water in the desert! I been using the Stealth 100 R/O system ( 2 stage sediment & Carbon ) in hydro settings and soil / organics settings and never once had a issue. When I was growing hydro I would PPM the R/O water out of curiosity and it was always in the 20-30 range.

Cann said:

thats what I figured...DWC and all.

the "overwatering" issue seems to be lack of oxygen leading to anaerobic conditions, not excess h2o. good to know

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Yes , your correct , there is no such thing as too much water as long as the o2 is sufficiant. then your dead on with the anaerobic conditions being the problem with not enough o2.



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Hey wyteboi- What's happening?

I'm taking down my Jack Herer girl on Saturday, I'll be taking some pictures tonight or tomorrow, and I'll post em up on this thread in the next couple days...

One of the best plants I've grown thus far, and I feel like I almost, finally dialed in a soil mix for this very hungry girl, I'll be adding less alfalfa meal and more kelp, but nonetheless looking good! And my first grow with a water only mix. (TBH I did innoculate with AACT once, and had to add some liquid kelp near the end of flower for need of potash)

Thanks to all in this thread, for keeping my head where it should be (thinking about soil..), and being a great bouncing board for my ideas, and yours. It's inspirational!

More in a couple days...

Great news on the JH. That's such an excellent strain, I hear. Would love to see some pics if you are able.

your inbox is full RROG!

Just emptied... I can still hear the flushing noise...

Hi, Im new at brewing, the recipe I've been using http://forum.grasscity.com/introduce-yourself/718389-organic-guano-tea-recipe-spaceship-farmer.html and some other basic recipes. Wondering why Concentrated Fish emulsions are only in" Veg 2 Brew"?

StickyEnigma said:

Hi, Im new at brewing, the recipe I've been using http://forum.grasscity.com/introduce-yourself/718389-organic-guano-tea-recipe-spaceship-farmer.html and some other basic recipes. Wondering why Concentrated Fish emulsions are only in" Veg 2 Brew"?

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My guess would be the an extra boost of a stronger nitrogen?Id use fish hydrolysate instead of emulsion but either way nice recipes!

don't use fish emulsion. hydrolysate is what you want. emulsion is all sorts of nasty for your ladies...despite what it might say on the Home Depot shelves...

The one downside to enzyme teas - plants that are too fat to support themselves!!!

This vortex is just laughable. All the silica in the world couldn't save this one lol. This will be the last vortex in my garden.

Lavender getting so chunky that its lower buds are flopping over. These lower buds are the size of my colas last round...

A ghetto mainlined Plushberry cut - this one always throws a few nanners at the end but she is so productive that I don't mind. Chopped @ 55 days. Au natural with the crispy dead leaves

Cann said:

The one downside to enzyme teas - plants that are too fat to support themselves!!!

This vortex is just laughable. All the silica in the world couldn't save this one lol. This will be the last vortex in my garden.
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Lavender getting so chunky that its lower buds are flopping over. These lower buds are the size of my colas last round...
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A ghetto mainlined Plushberry cut - this one always throws a few nanners at the end but she is so productive that I don't mind. Chopped @ 55 days. Au natural with the crispy dead leaves
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lmao about the silica! What a wonderful bounty my friend! Can i PLEASE get some info on that lavendar? I think im in love!

so is anyone else in favor of a new sticky that is about soil "recycling" (ha), no-till gardening, enzyme teas, etc. instead of compost teas? I just find it a bit ironic that at this point we have discredited compost teas for the most part, but the title of the thread is still "gardening with compost teas" - something that most of us aren't doing anymore.

just a thought. the soil food web part is perfect, its just the second half that gets me.

Cann said:

so is anyone else in favor of a new sticky that is about soil "recycling" (ha), no-till gardening, enzyme teas, etc. instead of compost teas? I just find it a bit ironic that at this point we have discredited compost teas for the most part, but the title of the thread is still "gardening with compost teas" - something that most of us aren't doing anymore.

just a thought. the soil food web part is perfect, its just the second half that gets me.

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Im with you man. I just transplanted my ladies in my homemade soil mix. I have some beautiful pics to post soon.

Recycling would be a great thread theme. Just as you say.

Cann, you have some great looking plants there! Much props to you.

I have some Vortex seeds that I wasn't sure about planting.

Can i PLEASE have one of you enlighten me with some reading on enzyme tea's? I will start here at the thread scouring posts(yeah im stubborn like that), but if anyone can help with a knowledgebase i can pull from id be very appreciative. I refuse to fall behind!

These Botanical Teas use a simple cool water extraction to give us Secondary Metabolites, Plant Enzymes and Hormones. Builds the plant's own natural immunity to pest / disease. Some of the teas use seeds that you sprout. You can use Barley, Corn, Alfalfa, etc. Here's a recipe for these tried, tested recipes from Clackamas Coot:

2 tablespoons of seeds (1 oz.)
Soak for 12 hours. Drain that water and throw away. It’s full of growth inhibitors.
Add 1/2 gallon of water to the sprouts for the 48 hour soak.
Strain and use 1 cup of this to 1 gallon of water.

What coconut water gives you are GA - specifically G1 thru G8, IAA, enzymes and Cytokinins

What corn malt gives you is a very rich source of Cytokinins as well and the one that has been researched extensively, Zeatin, was named for the genus Zea - maize or corn

Zeatin promotes growth of the lateral buds and stimulates cell division to produce bushier plants when sprayed on the apical meristem

Looks to me like i need to be soaking some corn SOON!

All of those are excellent as soil drench or foliar