Soil to Hydro-- thought not feasable....but...???

LadyZandra

LadyZandra

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OK-
I have a butt-load of extra clones in promix/solo cups... (about 8-10"tall) and would LOVE to just switch them from the solo cups to hydro--

But I know that it is not a great Idea and I should just clone em... but I am looking at my time frame and wondering....

I KNOW the roots are different, and having soil in a DWC is NOT an option..

But have any of you EXPERIENCED growers had success in removing the soil from a 'dirt clone' and going to DWC?

What did you do/use to ensure your success?
Or am I stuck with just chopping them at soil level and cloning them???

Thanks all! ;)
 
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joker and a smoker

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I have take seedlings from soil rinsed off roots and put in ez cloner that had clear rez in water and a few drops of super thrive. cut a straw down the middle to hold stem of plant above and out of basket later moved plant to ebb and flow worked great
 
Dankfactory

Dankfactory

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It can be done Obviously its not recommended but the bacteria you're introducing into the Res via soil remnants is no different then bacteria that will manifest on its own in pure water. The only concern is mud clogging up lines, pumps etc. Rinse as well as you can and it'll be fine
 
LadyZandra

LadyZandra

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My Biggest concern is the root mass and not wanting it to be massed in the net-pot unable to reach down into the rez (DWC) as well as the plant being able to use it's "soil roots" to uptake so much faster with the hydro... drowning???

We grew in hydro for 6 years-- traded back to soil so could go 100% Organic... now see a HUGE drop in production and seems fluffier-- not to mention is more expensive for us to buy soil + multiple nutes.... am keeping 1/2 in the Organics for Hubby (Draig) and myself- but for the other folks we grow for- they are bitching about the lack of densness in the buds and only being able to get 1/2 oz instead of an oz every month.... so going back to the hydro for those.
 
Dankfactory

Dankfactory

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Roots will do their thing as long as there's proper gas exchange/ O2 enrichment in your res. I'm guessing you're running an air pump of some sort? You'd probably have a harder time Not getting those roots to adapt
I veg( mothers) in dirt and run clones in DWC for bloom. Yields/ density can easily be obtained in dirt however. Is it possible your dirt/ choice of Nutes isn't as optimal as it could be? I do agree though: dirt yields won't touch hydro
 
tallstraw

tallstraw

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Im not experienced. But I did it. It's a bitch and a half though, and you obliterate the roots. But after it starts growing again, the roots shoot out no problem. Nothing is cloggd up in my bucket.
 
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bibbles

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I got 64/64 transferring well established teens from dirt to aero.

Take a bucket full of water, dunk the dirt into it and gently move the root ball around to remove the dirt; I actually removed 50% of the roots, but if the roots aren't super established that should be unnecessary. Next, I let them sit in a solution on R/O water and ThriveAlive B1 (red) while I completed the rest, transplanted them, included B1 in the nutrient solution, did a B1 foliar that day and then again three days later, shazzam.

ThriveAlive is amazing, but basically the biggest factor is that they retain enough healthy root mass to support the foliage; if you lose too much, remove some fan leaves.
 
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churchhaze

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Cloning the clones would make no sense. You're afraid you'll damage the roots transplanting to netcups, so you chop off all the roots? Isn't that 100% counter-intuitive in preventing what you fear? (that the roots will be damaged)
 
Dankfactory

Dankfactory

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churchhaze said:
Cloning the clones would make no sense. You're afraid you'll damage the roots transplanting to netcups, so you chop off all the roots? Isn't that 100% counter-intuitive in preventing what you fear? (that the roots will be damaged)
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Theyre in dirt. Theyre being transferred to DWC. Obviously one strives for as close to a sterile res as possible in DWC. Its a valid question.
 
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churchhaze

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It's a valid question/concern but it's not going to be an issue. People get root rot because of poor conditions, not because some bacteria infected the water. Everyone's just looking for an excuse for something else. If you have root rot, it's probably because there isn't enough air being pumped in, or the nutrient solution is bad. Unhealthy plants lead to root rot, not the other way around.

Of course I'm not saying the transplant part will go without a hitch. That's a risk because you may damage the roots and cause the plant to wilt. Spray the leaves with pure water during the shock period and reduce lighting to reduce shock. I'm not saying I recommend doing it, nor am I recommending against it. He'd be saving the plant from a life of soil! Never able to live up to its hydro buddies, and thus living a life of bitterness and resentment!

Dankfactory said:
Theyre in dirt. Theyre being transferred to DWC. Obviously one strives for as close to a sterile res as possible in DWC. Its a valid question.
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Dankfactory

Dankfactory

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churchhaze said:
It's a valid question/concern but it's not going to be an issue. People get root rot because of poor conditions, not because some bacteria infected the water. Everyone's just looking for an excuse for something else. If you have root rot, it's probably because there isn't enough air being pumped in, or the nutrient solution is bad. Unhealthy plants lead to root rot, not the other way around.

Of course I'm not saying the transplant part will go without a hitch. That's a risk because you may damage the roots and cause the plant to wilt. Spray the leaves with pure water during the shock period and reduce lighting to reduce shock. I'm not saying I recommend doing it, nor am I recommending against it. He'd be saving the plant from a life of soil! Never able to live up to its hydro buddies, and thus living a life of bitterness and resentment!
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Right..was already discussed in post 3
 
LadyZandra

LadyZandra

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Everyone "Clones clones" if they continuously clone their plants-- though of course, not usually the entire plant. These are larger than normal clones-- these are well established and could easily be flowered out NOW...

Cloning would establish an entirely new root system in a hydroponic medium instead of trying to transplant (and possibly killing) soil plants into hydro...

am doing one and seeing what happens... if she's good to go- will do the others.

The nute system is dialed-in.. it is one that several of us in a cooperative are using... They veg for months, so get big yields- I do not have that option of multiple rooms... but we (Draig and I) always got better results with DWC... so am taking 1/2 our grow back to hydro... so we can at least get enough to go around, especially for those who don't give a rat's-ass if it's organic or not.
 
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