Some Rationality On Climate Change ...

medicineman

medicineman

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Greenhouse gases are indicative of a coming ICE age. Humidity increases, clouds form it rains a lot, in a matter of months the weather cools. In a few years super cool, and icy.



Living in the southwest desert, I could only hope that would happen, but alas, that is a false premis. The facts are that greenhouse gasses actually act like a, Guess what, a greenhouse and add heat to the equation.
 
suedonimn

suedonimn

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medicineman said:
Living in the southwest desert, I could only hope that would happen, but alas, that is a false premis. The facts are that greenhouse gasses actually act like a, Guess what, a greenhouse and add heat to the equation.
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Yes I am aware... greenhouse gases build causing heat, causing mass evaporation, causing mass humidity, causing mass precipitation, causing massive cooling, causing ICE caps to over form, ending in an ICE age. A cold desert not a hot one.
 
Woomeister

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All I know for sure is my friend is an independent climate research scientist with no political agenda, and he says this: The Northern ice cap melting isnt such a big thing when talking about sea level rises, as the ice is mainly sea ice so therefore when it melts the sea levels wont rise. But the ice reflects the uv and heat so the sea temps remain on an equilibrium. Without sea ice sea temps will rise which will ultimately cause devastating weather conditions around the world and ecological issues of a major proportion. In the Uk for the past 10 years the extremes of weather have been often, and very severe. I live at sealevel and 4 weeks ago there was 2ft of snow on the ground for over 2 weeks with average temps of -2. Here we are 4 weeks later and it is 17C. Every year a long standing weather related record is smashed, not just broken, and the trend is continuing. The world is well over due an ice age, it doesnt mean that green house gases are going to hurry it up but they arent going to hold it off!
 
TheBrutalTruth

TheBrutalTruth

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medicineman said:
Greenhouse gases are indicative of a coming ICE age. Humidity increases, clouds form it rains a lot, in a matter of months the weather cools. In a few years super cool, and icy.



Living in the southwest desert, I could only hope that would happen, but alas, that is a false premis. The facts are that greenhouse gasses actually act like a, Guess what, a greenhouse and add heat to the equation.
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Well, if you're such an expert what's the primary green house gas?
 
misshestermoffitt

misshestermoffitt

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The climate changes, it's what it does. It would change with or without us. If we have sped up the climate change, it isn't by much, a few thousand years at most and in the life of the earth and few thousand years is just the blink of an eye.
 
medicineman

medicineman

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TheBrutalTruth said:
Well, if you're such an expert what's the primary green house gas?
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You are asking me a question? My God, what a shock.. I thought you knew everything worth knowing on this planet and probably several others. Well smarty pants, let me take a guess, although I doubt it is classed as a gas, Answer: water vapor.
Do I win the prize? Or maybe it was cow farts, Methane., geeze come to think of it, Human farts, with 6.5 billion assholes quacking regularily, they may be the culprit.
 
TheBrutalTruth

TheBrutalTruth

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medicineman said:
You are asking me a question? My God, what a shock.. I thought you knew everything worth knowing on this planet and probably several others. Well smarty pants, let me take a guess, although I doubt it is classed as a gas, Answer: water vapor.
Do I win the prize? Or maybe it was cow farts, Methane., geeze come to think of it, Human farts, with 6.5 billion assholes quacking regularily, they may be the culprit.
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What prize?

Though yeah, you're right.

I personally think the focus on CO2 is a crock.

It's just a convenient scape goat, the other by product of Combustion Reactions is H2O (Water Vapor)

HCX + XO2 = CO2/CO + H2O

Of course, if the enviroflakes went after Water Vapor they'd get laughed at.

Oh, wait, they are getting laughed at...
 
chicoles

chicoles

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Woomeister said:
All I know for sure is my friend is an independent climate research scientist with no political agenda, and he says this: The Northern ice cap melting isnt such a big thing when talking about sea level rises, as the ice is mainly sea ice so therefore when it melts the sea levels wont rise. But the ice reflects the uv and heat so the sea temps remain on an equilibrium. Without sea ice sea temps will rise which will ultimately cause devastating weather conditions around the world and ecological issues of a major proportion. In the Uk for the past 10 years the extremes of weather have been often, and very severe. I live at sealevel and 4 weeks ago there was 2ft of snow on the ground for over 2 weeks with average temps of -2. Here we are 4 weeks later and it is 17C. Every year a long standing weather related record is smashed, not just broken, and the trend is continuing. The world is well over due an ice age, it doesnt mean that green house gases are going to hurry it up but they arent going to hold it off!
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Much of England was warm enough to produce excellent wine a number of times throughout history. The wine was considered better than that accross the channel.

Some of your points are right on, but I just disagree that temp fluctuations are abnormal.
 
tinyTURTLE

tinyTURTLE

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i beleive in climate change. i beleive it happens naturaly. i also beleive that humans are having an effect.
do i pretend to know what the effect will be? no. am i suprised that none of the super brains in here have
mentioned salinity of the ocean effecting global weather patterns? no. do any of us have any idea what we're talking about?
kind-of. i beleive in a natural carbon cycle, i also beleive that we humans have thrown that cycle into fast forward.
we're doomed, but slowly.
 
medicineman

medicineman

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TheBrutalTruth said:
What prize?

Though yeah, you're right.

I personally think the focus on CO2 is a crock.

It's just a convenient scape goat, the other by product of Combustion Reactions is H2O (Water Vapor)

HCX + XO2 = CO2/CO + H2O

Of course, if the enviroflakes went after Water Vapor they'd get laughed at.

Oh, wait, they are getting laughed at...
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So, don't farts count at all? I'd of thought an expert on shit, like you, would have the exact profile and placement on the list of greenhouse gasses. Farts are really a gas, no? water vapor isn't.
BTW those laughing will regret it later, Then I'll give you an "I told you so".
 
suedonimn

suedonimn

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Even without boiling water in a kettle, some of the liquid water changes to gas. This is evaporation. It occurs when a liquid turns into a gas far below its boiling point. There are always some particles in a liquid that have enough energy to break free from the rest to become a gas. pasted from factmonster.com
 
tinyTURTLE

tinyTURTLE

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i was looking into a mirror, realizing i was looking at the past the present and the future at the same time.
then i farted and there was some warming... i doubt it was global.
 
misshestermoffitt

misshestermoffitt

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Don't worry, the government spent a ton of cash years ago on a study to prove that cows farting is the cause of global warming. :roll: I doubt your fart did much.
 
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