Some Real Bullshit Going on. Words from the Wise?

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C_D_X_X

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Hi, I hope youve all had a good day/night and smoked/ate/injected some nice Green.

Ive posted a few times but this ones just a straight up whinge.

Same seeds, same tent, same light, same temp and humidity, same same. But look at the difference. 3 plants lookin good, 3 plants looking suicidal, and one looking like it needs putting out of its misery.

Im fairly sure ive overfed into already hot soil, and thats my issue, but if you have an opinion or some specific advice for me, id appreciate it

Im pretty inexperienced and ive had one successful grow out of 2 attempts. Last grow i had 0 issues. Plants just took everything i gave them, and they gave back 19oz from 4 plants.

These plants are Durban Poison x Chem Dog, 4 weeks old, in soil woth 10% perlite, under a 450w full spectrum led. Nutes are a 2 part kiwi branded formula called goliath nutrients. 5 galon pots. Temp 23°c humidity 65%

Ive just flushed them all with about 10 galons each of my tap water which is pH 6.4
 

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Feeding them to early. They should be near twice the size b 4 you start feeding them.
What you growing in that being said.i could be wrong. What u feeding them. How much and how offten
 
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go go kid said:
Feeding them to early. They should be near twice the size b 4 you start feeding them.
What you growing in that being said.i could be wrong. What u feeding them. How much and how offten
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So based on the pics you agree overfeeding is the issue?

Just looking for some reassurance really cos i dont wanna miss something else while i focus on that.

Ive fed them twice, once at 20 days, once at 27 days. 2ml of each part (2 part feed so 4ml) per litre of water plus 1ml calmag. Each plant recieved half a litre.

The fuck up i made, as well as feeding too early, was repotting them into hot soil in the 5 galon buckets, and feeding them 2 days later. Like i said my last grow was so easy and the plants took everything i gave them so i guess i assumed id have the same results this time using the same method.

My soil is called Scotts osmocote premium potting mix

My nutes are Goliath Nutrients Veg part 1 and part 2.

Same shit i used last grow too
 
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Yea looks like how my current grow started out. I'd just chill on them with the feeding. Maybe wait til they dry out and just give water for a few feedings and see how they respond. Also, don't be mean to em lol a little love and attention go along way with these.
 
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Dangerd00m said:
Yea looks like how my current grow started out. I'd just chill on them with the feeding. Maybe wait til they dry out and just give water for a few feedings and see how they respond. Also, don't be mean to em lol a little love and attention go along way with these.
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Nice to know i might be able to save them. But what about that absolute runt? The one im giving the one finger salute to? Would you scrap that or is there a chance it could pick its nuts up?

Sounds like you are saying i can get this bsck on track so thats positive
 
go go kid

go go kid

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C_D_X_X said:
So based on the pics you agree overfeeding is the issue?

Just looking for some reassurance really cos i dont wanna miss something else while i focus on that.

Ive fed them twice, once at 20 days, once at 27 days. 2ml of each part (2 part feed so 4ml) per litre of water plus 1ml calmag. Each plant recieved half a litre.

The fuck up i made, as well as feeding too early, was repotting them into hot soil in the 5 galon buckets, and feeding them 2 days later. Like i said my last grow was so easy and the plants took everything i gave them so i guess i assumed id have the same results this time using the same method.

My soil is called Scotts osmocote premium potting mix

My nutes are Goliath Nutrients Veg part 1 and part 2.

Same shit i used last grow too
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Ozmacote. Don't they do spoil with tim e release gradually already mixed into it. Could be mistaken
 
Schwaggy

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Come on kids, play nice. This plant is all about healing and love lol

I also agree with the others, BK knows the grows. Best to take all of this like water off the back.

My plant looked like your runt, so I transplanted into better soil. It was a gamble, but it paid off.

My issue was slightly different, but my plant looked exactly like yours because the results were the same. The soil, well it wasn't even soil lol, the potting mix I put my plant into had no drainage so my plant was over watered and underfed. And it looked exactly like yours.

I really wish I would have taken pictures during that time, but I was so upset I couldn't bear to look at her.

Yep, another newbie CFL grow! Kind of

Hello everybody! I am new here and this is my first grow in over 11 years. I know, let's not even go there! I swear to God? Never again. I am a grower at heart, it's my passion, and never again will I not do this in my life. I know a lot of you can relate to this. So here we go. I love to read...
rollitup.org

So you can hate on BK all you want, but he nailed it.

And your focus should not be on the bad vibes, redirect positive vibes on your plant. Play them some jazz, funk, or even reggae.

She can make it with love and tenderness, and patience.
 
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Alter Jean

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Schwaggy said:
Come on kids, play nice. This plant is all about healing and love lol

I also agree with the others, BK knows the grows. Best to take all of this like water off the back.

My plant looked like your runt, so I transplanted into better soil. It was a gamble, but it paid off.

My issue was slightly different, but my plant looked exactly like yours because the results were the same. The soil, well it wasn't even soil lol, the potting mix I put my plant into had no drainage so my plant was over watered and underfed. And it looked exactly like yours.

I really wish I would have taken pictures during that time, but I was so upset I couldn't bear to look at her.

Yep, another newbie CFL grow! Kind of

Hello everybody! I am new here and this is my first grow in over 11 years. I know, let's not even go there! I swear to God? Never again. I am a grower at heart, it's my passion, and never again will I not do this in my life. I know a lot of you can relate to this. So here we go. I love to read...
rollitup.org

So you can hate on BK all you want, but he nailed it.

And your focus should not be on the bad vibes, but love on your plant. She can make it with love and tenderness, and patience.
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Swooped through with the save! That's the kind of spirit I'm talking about...

Happy Sundaze to you :blsmoke:
 
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Budzbuddha

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As BK stated … whether you like him or not he came in with a good observation. Those plants are way saturated and “ droopy “ because of it. Roots get stifled . Granular mixes feed at “ every “ watering “.

Not sure how nutrient dense this mix is now after 10 gallon flush …. Which now adds to issue. I would let medium feed plants alone. ( if not completely stripped now )
 
Alter Jean

Alter Jean

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C_D_X_X said:
Hi, I hope youve all had a good day/night and smoked/ate/injected some nice Green.

Ive posted a few times but this ones just a straight up whinge.

Same seeds, same tent, same light, same temp and humidity, same same. But look at the difference. 3 plants lookin good, 3 plants looking suicidal, and one looking like it needs putting out of its misery.

Im fairly sure ive overfed into already hot soil, and thats my issue, but if you have an opinion or some specific advice for me, id appreciate it

Im pretty inexperienced and ive had one successful grow out of 2 attempts. Last grow i had 0 issues. Plants just took everything i gave them, and they gave back 19oz from 4 plants.

These plants are Durban Poison x Chem Dog, 4 weeks old, in soil woth 10% perlite, under a 450w full spectrum led. Nutes are a 2 part kiwi branded formula called goliath nutrients. 5 galon pots. Temp 23°c humidity 65%

Ive just flushed them all with about 10 galons each of my tap water which is pH 6.4
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if anything they are underfed and over watered it looks like to me

also what light are you using and how far away is it from the canopy?
 
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Alter Jean said:
if anything they are underfed and over watered it looks like to me

also what light are you using and how far away is it from the canopy?
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I understand thats your observation, i just cant get my head around being under fed. The soil is hot, and ive fed them twice when they are only 4 weeks old. Other members on this site have told me i fed them way too early. Your telling me i havent fed them enough.

I definately agree they are overwatered and ill be making sure thats resolved from now on.

My light is called the Helios 450x, and its 18" away from the canopy. I have two of these but one is plenty of coverage until i start scrogging
 
PadawanWarrior

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C_D_X_X said:
Hi, I hope youve all had a good day/night and smoked/ate/injected some nice Green.

Ive posted a few times but this ones just a straight up whinge.

Same seeds, same tent, same light, same temp and humidity, same same. But look at the difference. 3 plants lookin good, 3 plants looking suicidal, and one looking like it needs putting out of its misery.

Im fairly sure ive overfed into already hot soil, and thats my issue, but if you have an opinion or some specific advice for me, id appreciate it

Im pretty inexperienced and ive had one successful grow out of 2 attempts. Last grow i had 0 issues. Plants just took everything i gave them, and they gave back 19oz from 4 plants.

These plants are Durban Poison x Chem Dog, 4 weeks old, in soil woth 10% perlite, under a 450w full spectrum led. Nutes are a 2 part kiwi branded formula called goliath nutrients. 5 galon pots. Temp 23°c humidity 65%

Ive just flushed them all with about 10 galons each of my tap water which is pH 6.4
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Are you using the General A and B? That's a pretty small amount of nutes considering what they recommend.

That soil probably isn't helping anything. It has time release nutrients. Generally that's not what we want. So everytime you water it's releasing nutrients. I'd get a better soil next time.

If it was me, I'd let the pots dry out a bit, and then give plain water and see how they respond.
 
Alter Jean

Alter Jean

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C_D_X_X said:
I understand thats your observation, i just cant get my head around being under fed. The soil is hot, and ive fed them twice when they are only 4 weeks old. Other members on this site have told me i fed them way too early. Your telling me i havent fed them enough.

I definately agree they are overwatered and ill be making sure thats resolved from now on.

My light is called the Helios 450x, and its 18" away from the canopy. I have two of these but one is plenty of coverage until i start scrogging
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Ah yeah. They are a bit sopping so don't be so trigger happy with the water man... Soaking medium the roots can't get Oxygen.

I can't say you fed too early. Because I start feeding my plants at the first true leaves for the most part.
But that's not in the same medium as you.

I just looked at that light very nice, distance should be fine... Before scrogging are you using any additional lighting? Like UV-A/B or FR?
 
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