Somthing not quite right

Kode

New Member
Well i'm haveing and issue with the plants growing REALLY long thin steams

i donno all my stats on the equipment (i'm really broke like alot of people and it's all scrap) i actually did not buy anything all stuff i had around.
basics i know are 4 flor lights 20w 2xwarm 2xcool one in each corner with 2 over head Lamps with 23w twistys bulbs that say they are = to 100w each ( i just added the second over head lamp there was just one.) i have noticed that i might have been over watering due to it looking really dry on the surface and thus me watering pretty much every day.

backed off a bit on the watering if that was the issue? i donno.

trying to post pictures but not working for some reason :/ *got it...
burry sorry crappy cam i can post more maybe better if needed
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Kode

New Member
thanks for reply but lights are only like 1ft. ah 4-6in you say ... so you think it's the light distance?
 

HookdOnChronics

Well-Known Member
Yea ok so your gonna wanna STOP watering!!! lol, I have plants that are not jokingly 100X the size of those little ones that I only water every 3 days! Plants the size of yours I water once every 2 weeksish because the roots can't take up all the moisture at such a small age. The best way to water is to get the soil DRENCHED, to the point of having a little com out the bottom of the pot. Then let all the excess drain out and don't water again until the top 2 inches of soil are dry. Wet dry cycle is key to watering. You want it really wet, and then to get really dry. Just like in nature.

And since you are using flouro's your going to want to keep them lights within 3-4 inches of your plants. Because past that the light starts to get week. So lower your lights a LOT! Also, your going to want around 100 actual watts per plant (not what the CFL is equal to, the ACTUAL wattage) to get decent results anyways. Other than that your looking pretty good. Any more Q's just ask.

Also, I'd look into LST-ing. GREAT technique for optimizing yield!

Good Luck!
~Hookd
 

Kode

New Member
hrm i think you left out something in that post...thanks for posts guys (i'd appreciate and constructive criticism aswell..) keeping in mind it's all junk if you look closely you'll see hangers and ect. lol
 

StaySmokin206

Active Member
Believe me there are much ghettoer setups.. Just search for ghetto growers thread for proof lol.. You can set up yours nicely and get decent yield :D
 

That 5hit

Well-Known Member
yeah get some 42w cfls and keep them close and lst the hell out of them
get about 9 of them (over time)
 

Kode

New Member
will do hookd thanks i figured that what it was but it's so hard to tell when your noob.

fyi it's all for personal... i won't go into my health issues but i'm only looking to grow for myself so i don't need an of thos UBER systems.
 

That 5hit

Well-Known Member
what your doing is perfect
just re:


SOIL GROWING BASIC

cherry popping grow technic for indoor soil growing
(get a few grows under your belt before jumping into advanced cultivation, learn the basic)
a good location, soil, nutes, lights, and co2 can only take you so far
big buds and good yeilds are based on genes and growing skills

plant life is tipicaly
2wks-1month veg 24/0 or 18/6
2-3 month flower 12/12
4 months (maybe 3) all together from seed to cured smoke

place seed in a cup of water
check every day untill you see seed crack and or tap root
then place in a 1in deep hole covered with soil, in a 1 gal pot full of soil
water plants ever 2-3 days or when soil is dry
now get a digital thermometer, one with a temperature and a humidity gauge
optional items : heater, a/c, dehumidifier
maintain lights on temps of 70-80 (with co2 you can let it go as high as 95) at lights off stay above 60.
during flowering keep humidity around 40%-60% lights on or off (the dryer the better)
when you see a sprout
re. young plants can live on the nutes that are already in every soil no need to add any nutes at this time just water
water plants ever 2-3 days or when soil is dry, try not to over water and add no fertilizer
place light (26 or 42 watt CFL 2700k warm with hood and clamp) over it keeping light as close as 2-4 in.
one bulb type can be used from start to finish, but better results can be had by switching bulb color at dirferant growth stages
...........cfl 6500 Kelvin (cool blueish/ white color spectrum) =to mh used for vegging bushing stem leaf
...........cfl 2700 Kelvin (warm redish/orange color spectrum) =to hps used for blooming fruiting budding
as the plant gets bigger add more light (if you use mh or hps follow light distance
guidelines, you'll find out more about them as you advance in you grow skill)
now time for veg growth
get a light with hood (and put it on an on/off timer set timer for 18/6)
water plants ever 2-3 days or when soil is dry
after 2 weeks of just plain water introduce nutes at 1/4 strength, every other water
when picking nutes (fertilizer)NPK try to keep it simple
for veg pick a nute high in N and low in PK
for flowering pick a nute high in P and low in NK
N: nitrogen is used to stimulate new vegetative growth and overall health.
P2O5: phosphorus oxide is used to stimulate flower development and rooting.
K2O: potassium oxide is used to stimulate stem growth and overall health
a great fert for beginners are any tomato plant ferterlizer
inrich air with co2 if you gat it (not needed if less then 6 plants, just open a window or pump in fresh air)
after 2wks too a months of vegging its time to sex and flower
tranpants to a 3-5gal pot
if still useing CFL's double or triple the amount of lights (the more light the more dence and bigger the buds will be)
set timer for 12/12 (depending on strain plants can double even triple in size (height) in this stage)
this will show sex and flower your plants, giving you smokable buds
keep the female's they grow white hairs
discard the males they grow grape like ball clusters (pollen sacs)
discard the hermi they grow both sex (re. if it has balls on it discard it)
give it 2 wks of 12/12 then increase nutes
lights will stay on 12/12 untill finish which could be 8-14 wks depending on strain dominates :
short plant with fat wide leaf = indica dom = 8-10 wks,
tall plant with long skiny leaf = sativa dom = 10-14 wks
by far the best way to tell when the plant is ready to harvest is by looking at the trichome
you want to harvest at about a 40%-50% red to white ratio. you will need a minimum 30x zoom microscope (radio shack)
flush plant by feeding plain water no nutes for last 2 wks (improves taste)
cut, trim, hang dry 5-7 days @ 40%-50% humidity
smoke
or
cure:
place in mason jars 3/4filled. sealed tight for 12hr in a dark place
open jar and take buds out and let dry for 30m to 1hr or untill dry to touch
replace in jars resealed in a dark place
repeat this for 2wks to a month or untill buds nolonger become wet in jar after 12hr
now smoke
or seal away for long term store
 

Kode

New Member
Thanks alot good condensed info there i know alot of that but nice to the info kinda tailored to your setup because the crap can vary soooo much...this is my first totaly self grow... i've been around the block and i know alot of book info and helped some people with theres but it's totaly different when it's all you. thanks again and if you need better pictures just ask.
 

Kode

New Member
Oh before i forget i feel like i'm spamming lol... Anyone got advice about pinching or cutting to promote branching? the old books basically just say pinch off the very top growth at about 6th months if it looks like it needs more branches?
if you look at the picture the ones i have in the center i started earlier and are a different strain and all (also started outside) do they look like they need pinching? need better pic?
 

Kode

New Member
few more pics for a better idea of space ect.

upper lights
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funky leaf formation lol
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and outside
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prebs

Well-Known Member
haha nice set up. looks like something I would set up in my closet. looks good, but move the lights about 3 or so inches away from the plant and use cfl bulbs with 23+ watts per bulb like they said above. and yeah since they've been stretching, definitely try lst on them later on, you'll see tons more growth and yield that way
 

prebs

Well-Known Member
yeah thats a lot better. a little closer would be better but thatll definitely help a ton. they should stop stretching soon and hopefully bush/branch out a bit more
 
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