Spirit Science - History on the TRUTH

ego exists for a reason in this fallen world
I hope you don't mind argumentation. Strictly my opinion; that is an egoic perspective, for what reason does the ego exist? Do you mean higher reason or causality? How is this a fallen world?

Imo what has caused and is the reason for this fallen world that you perceive is the ego, it's what separates us, it is the cause of all conflict and suffering in the world, all things evil in this world come forth from the human ego and believe me it is one clever little devil, it will cast you out of paradise and take over the will of your soul destroying true peace, Bliss, and love. It has its purpose of inspiring humanity to greater lengths then it could have ever achieved without it, but like a cancer that unknowingly destroys the organism it needs for life eventually the ego will destroy humanity, it is truly a plague upon this earth and it is now necessary for our survival to dethrone the devil and begin to dismantle the ego from our society, which begins within the hearts and minds of the individual, You and me.

"We have created man from the dust of the ground, We mean to try him"

"If I err I err only against my own soul, for in the Light i know Allah's will as my own will"

Very powerful words if understood correctly. Yes you have manifested every single event in your life, and you did it with no effort whatsoever.
 
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A human being.... alien + animal .... alien = idealistic superego ~ animal = flawed ego
Symmetry... Simplicity... Divinely inspired from the breath of life. △▽
Division is how WE come together - Solve et Coagula

@New Age United this information is extremely simple.
Don't make it so complex. (; - Lex Parsimoniae
 
19-6.gif

A human being.... alien + animal .... alien = idealistic superego ~ animal = flawed ego
Symmetry... Simplicity... Divinely inspired from the breath of life. △▽
Division is how WE come together - Solve et Coagula

@New Age United this information is extremely simple.
Don't make it so complex. (; - Lex Parsimoniae
Yes it is very simple, but also incoherent, can you explain to me how division is how we come together? I'm not against you Heatless we can learn a great deal by arguing.
 
I AM not against YOU, either. :)
I AM simply stating why YOU and I are having this conversation right now.

How can One be found when never had been lost?
How can One become unattached when never had been attached at all?
How can WE come together when WE were never divided in the first place?

YOU see... The reason YOU and I are here is to have OUR OWN experience.
YOU, @New Age United and I, HeatlessBBQ of rollitup.org are individuals.

Individuals
 
We're also here to share experience and as the first video stated we can share the same ideas, it's still possible to have individual experiences without ego, and it is also possible to share experience without ego.

That was a very good way to put it thanks Heatless
 
We're also here to share experience and as the first video stated we can share the same ideas, it's still possible to have individual experiences without ego, and it is also possible to share experience without ego.

That was a very good way to put it thanks Heatless
I see where You are getting at.
The english language just really makes it difficult to perceive the same thing as the original intention.
 
Holy fuck this is amazing. Great videos.
This is awesome that You really enjoy the videos . I hope You continue to follow this thread for more insightful knowledge that can catalyze a spiritual awakening

Quite interesting when you look at psychological problems. For example I create my anxiety, no one else. It's all me. :D
manifest destiny
 
Ya know ya gots to check it when it gots TRUTH in capital letters. Nothin' says truth like CAPITAL TRUTH. I'm just sayin'.
LOL this made Me laugh really good the first time I read this.
People need to know the truth. Rollitup.org along with Spirit Science, plugged in together has changed My life in the most beautiful ways possible and I want to share that with every single one of You.
 
How can you describe "tree-ness" ? What is a tree in Your mind might not meet the same qualification as my mind's idea of "tree" back to the concept of what the hell is this and how can I describe it? You can't
 
LOL this made Me laugh really good the first time I read this.
People need to know the truth. Rollitup.org along with Spirit Science, plugged in together has changed My life in the most beautiful ways possible and I want to share that with every single one of You.
I know that you are enlightened, how do I know, bc your love is selfless. "What the ego calls love is really an addictive clinging" Tolle. Your efforts in spreading enlightenment are seriously appreciated and go a long way. The love of the ego is a very serious weakness, Your love is strong and powerful, it can change the world. Surrender your will to God, the Light, you are the living universe, the cosmos are in perfect order.

What comes first Peace, Bliss or Love, they come together and with out each other there is neither.
 
Here is one I think I can relate better. Last night I got 2 oz of weed. It was 1 am when I got home so I just put it by my fence. In hindsight it was literally close enough you could trip over it and I'm surprised my mom didn't find it.
This morning my mom takes my dog outside so he can go to the bathroom. She walks RIGHT PAST the 2 bags of weed, because in HER mind her brain told her that it was a skunk. So how does she KNOW it was a skunk? because she is ignorant of the fact that there was MORE to the smell that SHE could observe. Why is it so hard to bring enlightenment to the ones who are in the dark? Maybe they are satisfied with the answer "skunk" and do not decide to ACT on "skunk-ness" to find out what SKUNK really is. I'm having trouble these last few days finding words that mean what I want them to. I think because I realize that "human-ness" and "ego" can be separate and one at the same time, and it's becoming harder to rationalize "human experience" with "ego" (if "ego" doesn't exist then WHO or WHAT is doing the observing, and WHO or WHAT needed to create "this-ness" in order for "us" to experience?
 
Here is one I think I can relate better. Last night I got 2 oz of weed. It was 1 am when I got home so I just put it by my fence. In hindsight it was literally close enough you could trip over it and I'm surprised my mom didn't find it.
This morning my mom takes my dog outside so he can go to the bathroom. She walks RIGHT PAST the 2 bags of weed, because in HER mind her brain told her that it was a skunk. So how does she KNOW it was a skunk? because she is ignorant of the fact that there was MORE to the smell that SHE could observe. Why is it so hard to bring enlightenment to the ones who are in the dark? Maybe they are satisfied with the answer "skunk" and do not decide to ACT on "skunk-ness" to find out what SKUNK really is. I'm having trouble these last few days finding words that mean what I want them to. I think because I realize that "human-ness" and "ego" can be separate and one at the same time, and it's becoming harder to rationalize "human experience" with "ego" (if "ego" doesn't exist then WHO or WHAT is doing the observing, and WHO or WHAT needed to create "this-ness" in order for "us" to experience?
Without going too deep in regards to the first portion of your post. Ignorance is bliss.
 
Here is one I think I can relate better. Last night I got 2 oz of weed. It was 1 am when I got home so I just put it by my fence. In hindsight it was literally close enough you could trip over it and I'm surprised my mom didn't find it.
This morning my mom takes my dog outside so he can go to the bathroom. She walks RIGHT PAST the 2 bags of weed, because in HER mind her brain told her that it was a skunk. So how does she KNOW it was a skunk? because she is ignorant of the fact that there was MORE to the smell that SHE could observe. Why is it so hard to bring enlightenment to the ones who are in the dark? Maybe they are satisfied with the answer "skunk" and do not decide to ACT on "skunk-ness" to find out what SKUNK really is. I'm having trouble these last few days finding words that mean what I want them to. I think because I realize that "human-ness" and "ego" can be separate and one at the same time, and it's becoming harder to rationalize "human experience" with "ego" (if "ego" doesn't exist then WHO or WHAT is doing the observing, and WHO or WHAT needed to create "this-ness" in order for "us" to experience?

Super interesting post, I really liked your perspective and just wanted to add a few things. IMO one can't bring enlightenment to anyone else. The "enlightenment" is already there for the taking in the other person, as it is in all of us, but they have to find it themselves. There's this good book called If You Meet Budha On The Road Kill Him, and it kind of touches on this same subject. To sum it up very crudely, there is no one path to enlightenment, many different people reach it many different ways, so to tell someone or to try and teach someone how to reach enlightenment never works because the path that you took to enlightenment is not the same path that someone else is going to take. I think you're on the right track though and I like your perspective on this "human-ness" and how you recognize it as separate from the ego. This is the watcher or observer (although it has many different names) feeling that we all seem to experience at those quiet alone moments when you actually have time to hear yourself think, so to speak. Even the phrase "hear yourself think" is weird if you think about it. What/Who is hearing you think? Sounds strange....Sorry, I digressed there a bit, but my main point is that one needs to explore this feeling of SOMETHING else other than our egos, because it is universal in all of us, and when you explore that feeling you come to find that it is what connects us all as living beings (not just humans but ALL living things in the biosphere and even the universe).
 
Super interesting post, I really liked your perspective and just wanted to add a few things. IMO one can't bring enlightenment to anyone else. The "enlightenment" is already there for the taking in the other person, as it is in all of us, but they have to find it themselves. There's this good book called If You Meet Budha On The Road Kill Him, and it kind of touches on this same subject. To sum it up very crudely, there is no one path to enlightenment, many different people reach it many different ways, so to tell someone or to try and teach someone how to reach enlightenment never works because the path that you took to enlightenment is not the same path that someone else is going to take. I think you're on the right track though and I like your perspective on this "human-ness" and how you recognize it as separate from the ego. This is the watcher or observer (although it has many different names) feeling that we all seem to experience at those quiet alone moments when you actually have time to hear yourself think, so to speak. Even the phrase "hear yourself think" is weird if you think about it. What/Who is hearing you think? Sounds strange....Sorry, I digressed there a bit, but my main point is that one needs to explore this feeling of SOMETHING else other than our egos, because it is universal in all of us, and when you explore that feeling you come to find that it is what connects us all as living beings (not just humans but ALL living things in the biosphere and even the universe).
I really appreciate your opinions here and you do have a good point, but once one has attained enlightenment it is possible to help others attain it for themselves. The thing about words is they are only pointers to the truth "the finger pointing at the moon is not the moon".

Believe it or not it is possible to stop thinking all together, and this is a practice you want to master if you are seeking enlightenment. The ego will latch on to the "idea" of enlightenment and put importance on it, as if it is its prized possession, it feels that once it has attained enlightenment this will add new depth and character to itself. I assure you there is nothing important about enlightenment, so why would you want to achieve it?

Let's just take a moment to do a little practice of stopping your mind. Can you become directly aware of all the empty space around you? I know the ego will find this boring it would much rather keep thinking, it has years of momentum so you will most likely not be able to stop thinking for long, but do you notice how when you become aware of Space there is a brief silence in your mind? For a moment you became completely Present, if you can maintain alertness you can then become directly aware of the ego as it starts back up, you will notice that it always leads you back away from the hear and now and begins to think about past and future. It looks to the past for its sense of self and to the future for its fulfillment, it negates the Eternal Present and the wool is pulled over your eyes and you become completely blind to this peaceful paradise. That is why you would want to attain Enlightenment bc the ego is not very peaceful and deep down you want peace.

You are well on your way and if you have any questions feel free to ask. Just so you know as you practice becoming Present the gaps in your thinking will become longer, but more importantly is the frequency of these gaps, as often as you can remember become aware of Space, the space of the present moment, do not negate the present negate past and future, be right here right now, just Be.
 
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