Sr. Verde's: Concentrate Corner

Oakley1984:
I use hexane on trimmed bud, very very dry, gotta be careful it falls apart into dust dry. 45 seconds to a minute mashing violently in a pouring cup, then pour through a coffee filter.
That was easy.

The cheapest vacuum pump that would pull enough vacuum fast enough cost $750 on sale over the internet. Cannot get the hexane out without the vacuum.

Heat to slow boil, 175 degrees. When the bubbles almost completely quit showing, 90 minutes with 35 watts for 10 oz in my setup, put the vacuum to the container, it should begin boiling quite rapidly, way faster than the simmering it did earlier. Five minutes vacuum, five minutes rest, five minutes vacuum, etc through four cycles and it does not bubble under vacuum anymore. Clean enough to smoke now.

I don't remember the original numbers, been years, but the vacuum is enough to make straight hexane boil at 120 degrees. Down from 170. The thicker the mix gets the higher the boil point goes, can't get hot enough without vacuum. Well you can, but the THC is smoking by then.

Phaeton said:

Oakley1984:
I use hexane on trimmed bud, very very dry, gotta be careful it falls apart into dust dry. 45 seconds to a minute mashing violently in a pouring cup, then pour through a coffee filter.
That was easy.

The cheapest vacuum pump that would pull enough vacuum fast enough cost $750 on sale over the internet. Cannot get the hexane out without the vacuum.

Heat to slow boil, 175 degrees. When the bubbles almost completely quit showing, 90 minutes with 35 watts for 10 oz in my setup, put the vacuum to the container, it should begin boiling quite rapidly, way faster than the simmering it did earlier. Five minutes vacuum, five minutes rest, five minutes vacuum, etc through four cycles and it does not bubble under vacuum anymore. Clean enough to smoke now.

I don't remember the original numbers, been years, but the vacuum is enough to make straight hexane boil at 120 degrees. Down from 170. The thicker the mix gets the higher the boil point goes, can't get hot enough without vacuum. Well you can, but the THC is smoking by then.

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Dayum seems like alotta shit to make oil or butter

Wow, there is a LOT of very sketchy ghetto tec bho on this thread. This is what happens when bho extractions explode... and it happens almost every week. A friend of mine was in the hospital for two weeks recently.

Matt that is a bueatiful picture of trichomes you have/are is that a cold water filter or somthing

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Matt Rize said:

Wow, there is a LOT of very sketchy ghetto tec bho on this thread. This is what happens when bho extractions explode... and it happens almost every week. A friend of mine was in the hospital for two weeks recently.

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happened 2 blocks from were i lived recently and should only be done by people who understand the techniques and the dangers 100% and no short cuts

I have made oil from butane but i do it very carefully and with the utmost respect for 6 yrs, do not mess around with butane

nice thread Verde

Samwell Seed Well said:

Matt that is a bueatiful picture of trichomes you have/are is that a cold water filter or somthing
else

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Its ice water extract. I actually majored in CHEM and have lots of experience with solvents, but in Cali bho is very illegal to make so I stick to water.

damn matt rize i have a friend that looks just like that at the moment i lent my butane tube to this kid. anyway he's decided he was going to have a go at an alcohol extraction. popped down to maplins and got 2 large bottles and set about making his mash. kid only went an put the trays of alcohol in the oven.

Then decided it wasn't evaporating fast enough so he cracked it on the stove. my pal had to literally drag the other lad out into the street and pull his clothes off co they couldn't pat him out.

The kitchens wrecked, my mate said it was 2 seconds away from him just getting out and ringing the fire brigade. the lads got burns all down his arms his fingers are individually bandaged.

i couldn't believe what i was hearing.

oil making just isnt for everyone... patience and common sense aren't exactly exceeding qualities in today's society..
really if you think about it, you think butane extraction came around because it was a superior method, or a faster method haha

NEVER use heat!!!

anyone try the dry ice extraction of kief/trikes? looks too damn easy! not to mention safe as hell. sorry if someone has talked about it, 45 pages is a lot. lol

don't think he'll need telling twice man.

Don Gin and Ton said:

don't think he'll need telling twice man.

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i've been saying it since the beginning.

i did tell the guy about the joys of RIU but i guess he's more of an in with both feet kind of guy. paid for it big time

i used to smoke cigarettes when i ran butane runs. i've quit smoking since though.

i was live on stickam one night and had my torch on. i held up a fresh pan of BHO to the camera, it was still bubbling. when i lowered the pan i passed it across the flame of my torch and it flashed. it kinda just went "whoosh" and then went out. i think the part that gets people in trouble is them throwing it once it flashes. if you throw it, you get napalm.

napalm-

that's funny. people are idiots.
i've really learned alot from you guys. thanks.

any opinions on the advantages of butane over iso? other than the obvious boiling points.

Murfy said:

napalm-

that's funny. people are idiots.
i've really learned alot from you guys. thanks.

any opinions on the advantages of butane over iso? other than the obvious boiling points.

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yeah, butane is a better solvent for cannabinoids and terpenoids. The iso (I assume you mean isopropyl alcohol) aka QWISO, picks up more of green, usually making a darker extract. The reality is, almost no one is using n-butane. They are using canned gases mixtures (n-butane, isobutane, and propane) like Vector and Colibri.

yes-

the iso will extract alot of plant material. i do a ten second wash, for first run, uncooked oil.
it does seem to give it a red color.

propane? not the stuff out of the bottle, for my bbq?

i see-

mixed gases in a can of vector.

but it's cleaner? more filtered?

and why the mix?

air strike coming in!

Murfy said:

i see-

mixed gases in a can of vector.

but it's cleaner? more filtered?

and why the mix?

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the canned gas products, ie vector, are mixes of gases, not sure why, most likely because the gas is made for torch lighters and not solvent extraction. the canned gases mixtures also have added waxes, usually parrafin, to keep the torch from clogging. These added waxes are not reported and are also unpurge-able. 5x filtered means nothing at all. Without a ppm contamination report the product is completely a guess as to what is in it. But from what I've found Colibri>Vector>Power. Power is actually low grade Vector. Colibri has the highest % of n-butane.
http://www.vectorkgm.com/catalog/butane/Vector_Gas_MSDS.pdf
TRADE NAME:
CHEMICAL FAMILY:
DOT HAZARD CLASS:
SYNONYMS:
FORMULA:
UN/NA ID#:
Vector®
Alkane Hydrocarbon Flammable Gas, 2.1 Butane gas
C4H10 & C3H8 UN 2037
________________________________________________________________________________________________________ SECTION II- Summary of Hazards & Composition
SUBSTANCE: CAS#:
SUBSTANCE: CAS#:
SUBSTANCE: CAS#:
Butane Percent: 60.00 106-87-8 Synonyms: n-Butane, Tetrane
iso-Butane Percent: 29.00 75-28-5 Synonyms: 2-Methylpropane, Trlmethylethane
Propane Percent: 11.00 75-98-6 Synonyms: LPG, Dimethylmethane, Propylhydride
EXTREMELY FLAMMABLE! Keep away from heat, sparks and open flame.

http://www.gcelectronics.com/order/msds/224.pdf
Colibri MSDS.

thanks matt-

i knew the mix wasn't pertinent to extractions but was still curious as to the reason.
do some use propane right out of the can? how bout methane?