Sr. Verde's: Concentrate Corner

ENDLSCYCLE said:

what's the point...what are we trying to accomplish...

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Further refinement of THC.

I guess the question would be, "why not?".

when i chop in 60 days im have to try one of these methods...

Sr. Verde said:

Be careful, your stepping on un solid grounds!

Anyway, here's something from erowid.



Source: http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabis/cannabis_chemistry2.shtml

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*sigh* EVERYONE mindlessly quotes Dr. Atomic... i know H2SO4 is used in the 'standard' recipe, but in theory, any strong acid will do...it's the free H+ ions that give inactive cannabinoids the energy needed to rotate them to become active. The question is, how to safely neutralize the acid and separate the cannabinoids from the salt/water/methanol. Are there people here who actually have PERSONAL experience with isomerization? Thanks anyway, btw!

ENDLSCYCLE said:

^^^I never really understood the method here...what's the point...what are we trying to accomplish...especially when it starts out by saying "This process assumes you have pure hash oil to begin with."

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hash oil made from indicas (especially outdoor indicas) contains a lot of inactive cannabinoids (such as CBD, for example) or cannabinoids that are less potent than delta-9-THC. Isomerization converts a lot of these inactive substances into active ones, thereby increasing the potency of the oil.

ddimebag said:

*sigh* EVERYONE mindlessly quotes Dr. Atomic... i know H2SO4 is used in the 'standard' recipe, but in theory, any strong acid will do...it's the free H+ ions that give inactive cannabinoids the energy needed to rotate them to become active. The question is, how to safely neutralize the acid and separate the cannabinoids from the salt/water/methanol. Are there people here who actually have PERSONAL experience with isomerization? Thanks anyway, btw!

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Here's a link to another thread on RU that goes into your topic, although the interest was more in producing CBN>THC. A chemist chimes in on the merits of crude (ie. non-purified) isomerization techniques, and basically says not to bother-- too many side reactions; difficult to tell what you'll come up with.
https://www.rollitup.org/advanced-marijuana-cultivation/274470-isomerization-cbn-thc-h2so4.html

If you're looking at advaned organic chemistry, this probably isn't the site for it. RU is more about botony. There are other sites with more chemists on board, where your search could be more fruitful.

dankshizzle said:

I'll send a cab of fasfil with your dome. At least try it. Mirror test it first. It's g2g. I was sketchy at first untill I seen the errl it made. And the mirror test next to vector I sprayed it had someone else judge what one was vector. Nobody got it right. Vector actually looked identicle. For 30$ a case its the bomb. Nbutane is quite the hassle.
Too little pressure, then too much and blew 125g of nuggets all over. The pan was full of oil then BLAM. Sucks. R&d

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Damn so you would recommend against getting a cylinder of pure n-butane? What exactly was the problem?

New bulletproof glass male / male adapter...

looks veryyyy pretty in person, great job dankshizzle!

how much is one of them retail? $300?

Sweet colors! Sweet dish!

kolz2788 said:

how much is one of them retail? $300?

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pretty much.. I paid $330 with a bowl.

its a soap dish haha! holds about ~40 grams... theres about 20 grams in that pic

First time posting in this thread
Super Silver Haze x Lavender shatter.

Looks like some good bud and some great sap! Good job!

Is that vac purged, or do the tiny bubbles and awesome color deceive my eyes?

Thank you. No vac purge, mostly just a nice long warm bath. I really like the potency because a small dab can keep me medicated for over 2 hours. I've been working on getting my tolerance down but smoking cannabis just doesn't keep me medicated as long as a dab would.

here are some waxes i just made from some blue dream trim and white domina trim. the blue dream wax is the lighter colored one in the jar, it is a bit drier than i usually like but still delicious. the White domina wax is darker color on the parchment. cheers

MMMMmmmmmmmmmm thats looking ffuckin delishhhhhh

irieie said:

here are some waxes i just made from some blue dream trim and white domina trim. the blue dream wax is the lighter colored one in the jar, it is a bit drier than i usually like but still delicious. the White domina wax is darker color on the parchment. cheers

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Gotta love how attractive the consistency of that wax is... I just want to spin it up on my dabber..

Sr. Verde said:

Gotta love how attractive the consistency of that wax is... I just want to spin it up on my dabber..

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Yeah it so perfect you can just roll it into balls with ur fingers and drop it onto ur nail.

for sr....

lol you guys have No idea how much honey oil i make.... i present... 1lb of oil
it is the Same oil in the dish in previous pic.....

186.8 was weight of dish.... when i put dish on 500g capacity scale it maxed it instantly lol

(as a friend of mine put it, welcome to bc bitch, we move oil with spoons (had said that to me when he saw me filling up my dish with a kitchen spoon... yah.)

so newbie here, i have blown through an entire case of vector (12 cans bout $60 for the case where i live) i run each can 3x threw a stainless steel turkey baster with about 14-16 grams of TRIM from last year's outdoor crop (not the best but i have endless amounts and nothing to do with it) i was just wondering if i could post my method and get some pointers, when i get my wife's lazy to help ill make a video for finer critiques.
So, I: pack my tube with trim (after a round in the food processor)
apply 2 layers of coffee filters, secure with hose clamp
run 20s of vector through tube into waiting pyrex dish. run additional 5s of tane if it wasn't clear yet after 20s
let sit until i return with hottest water my tap can produce (when i do multiple cans i usually let a pot of water sit on the stove at low or 1)
pour water into dish around pyrex, watch pretty bubbles XD
about 2-3 mins after bubbles stop popping i take the pyrex dish to the oven that is on warm or 200f (lowest my oven goes) depending on how warm the day is
after about 5 mins in the oven (with door OPEN) i remove dish to cool on the stove until i can touch it with bare hands
scrap all gooey goodness off with razor blade and onto waiting parchment paper

i have yet to invest in a vacuum chamber, i see some ppl use them some ppl dont. i always test my oil after each run by holding a lighter over the product and watching for sparks (i do this well away from my extraction area) im still skeptical about the butane content. im also very tired of doing 3 runs a can, id rather enlarge my extraction vessel and run only once or twice per can. Any suggestions?

overall i would like to increase my yield PER run, either by increasing efficiency, enlarging extraction vessel, or anything at all.
Also my end product is black as night and looks like motor oil, is there anything wrong with it? my collective does not seem to think so but i still have my suspicions.
Here's some pics of my raw materiel, processed materiel, tools, and end product (about 13g after burning through 13 cans of vector....seems like im doing something wrong)
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anyone who has tubes for sale im looking for something i can use 1/2-1 whole can of tane in, pref stainless steel
any and all help is greatly appreciated!

ps i am EXTREMELY clean with my equipment, i clean the tube and pyrex dishes with 91% alcohol after each run...is this necessary? not OCD or anything i just respect the power of chemistry, i dont wanna fuck anything (specially me) up, but if this is unnecessary then id like to remove it from my routine