Sr. Verde's: Concentrate Corner

oakley1984

Well-Known Member
I see, how do u think the end product looked? That pic was after 3 hours in the vac, it basically stopped reacting to the vac n I kept getting it to 29.6hg n it wouldn't do anything any more, I wanted it to get harder should I put I back in?
looks good, if you want to get that clear consistency without the bubbles
just reheat it but not under vacuum until it melts back flat.. will look twice as pretty :P
wont change a damn way about how it smokes tho ;)
 

farawayforager

New Member
First post. I have done a lot of research on extraction techniques and I fail to understand why sealed extractions are not more common at home. I feel like running the butane above its boiling point and at low pressure during the entire extraction does not fully dissolve every bit of oil that the plant has to offer. This is the advantage of supercritical CO2, it will dissolve compounds like a liquid state but flow through material like a gas. Anyways, since we do not want butane to go supercritical for safety reasons, I think it stands to reason that we should be soaking plant matter in liquid butane below its boiling point for extended periods. Temperatures this low are easily achieved in an average home freezer. For the past six months I have been extracting oils exactly this way in a stainless steel vessel. Using the same amount of solvent I typically extract twenty percent more oil than when I was using a boro glass tube. Honestly I want to know what everyone's opinion on this method is and are their concerns with leaving the plant material in the solvent for periods of up to three hours. I have started a blog for the vessel I build and sell here at jyindustries.blogspot.com . Please don't take this as a cheap promo, I have never posted on these forums before and so have had no feedback on my research. I am working on videos for my methods and instructions. Those will be up on youtube soon.

The jist of what I do is use a dessicant to dry the flowers for a couple of days until they are suuuuuuper brittle, throw them in the vessel with three glass marbles,seal it and into freezer, empty butane into vessel, into freezer again and shake ever so often, empty through 25 micron stainless screen into purge dish, and repeat desired number of times until all oil is extracted. To my knowledge so long as I remove as much water as possible the increase soak time shouldn't yield extra water solubles. In fact my oils always wind up reddish orangish brown, never green. Anyways, comments desired.
 

Irieking

Active Member
I got an important question.... Can you use galvanized steel if necessary? I found a 12inch long 1inch wide pipe wanna know if it's safe enough compared to the current ABS Tubing setup I use?
 

Fadedawg

Well-Known Member
I got an important question.... Can you use galvanized steel if necessary? I found a 12inch long 1inch wide pipe wanna know if it's safe enough compared to the current ABS Tubing setup I use?
Not a good idea to use zinc. Here is a link to the MSDS http://www.sciencelab.com/msds.php?msdsId=9925476 which shows:

Routes of Entry: Inhalation. Ingestion.

Toxicity to Animals:
LD50: Not available. LC50: Not available.
Chronic Effects on Humans: Not available.
Other Toxic Effects on Humans: Slightly hazardous in case of skin contact (irritant), of ingestion, of inhalation.
Special Remarks on Toxicity to Animals: Not available.
Special Remarks on Chronic Effects on Humans: Not available.
Special Remarks on other Toxic Effects on Humans:
Acute Potential Health Effects: Skin: May cause skin irritation. Dermal exposure to zinc may produce leg pains, fatigue,
anorexia and weight loss. Eyes: May cause eye irritation. Ingestion: May be harmul if swallowed. May cause digestive tract
irritation with tightness in throat, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, loss of appetite, malaise, abdominal pain. fever, and chills.
May affect behavior/central nervous system and autonomic nervous system with ataxia, lethargy, staggering gait, mild
derrangement in cerebellar function, lightheadness, dizzness, irritability, muscular stiffness, and pain. May also affect blood.
Inhalation: Inhalation of zinc dust or fumes may cause respiratory tract and mucous membrane irritation with cough and chest
pain. It can also cause "metal fume fever", a flu-like condition characterized appearance of chills, headached fever, maliase,
fatigue, sweating, extreme thirst, aches in the legs and chest, and difficulty in breathing. A sweet taste may also be be present
in metal fume fever, as well as a dry throat, aches, nausea, and vomiting, and pale grey cyanosis. The toxicological properties
of this substance have not been fully investisgated.
 

dieselhound

Well-Known Member
Love my Oven VAc. Blast into square pyrex cake pan (in boiling water). Place in oven vac at approx. 120 deg. 29.5hg for 3 hours. Straight fire!!!

I just set the oven temp, vac and forget it. Easy! Easy! Easy! My best mmj purchase ever.
 

Wad419

New Member
I've just recently started getting into concentrates and iiiiiii dig it. I live in a small town in E Ky and have worked very hard to procure a hookup on the left coast. I know enough.... I think I know enough about em to not get "had" as far as what's good, what's not and how much to pay etc... Well here is my first BHOmb sack. It's 7.2g of purple Urkle "shatter". I dropped $280 for the 1/4. I was under the impression that quality shatter was pretty much transparent. Any truth to that? And is there any correlation between color and potency? Any input would greatly be appreciated. :leaf:Hey, I'm justa guy that likes to blaze. Live life to love & love to live life. Oh, and I'm always down for some knowledge, esp things I put in my body.:leaf:
 

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650baquet

Active Member
First post. I have done a lot of research on extraction techniques and I fail to understand why sealed extractions are not more common at home. I feel like running the butane above its boiling point and at low pressure during the entire extraction does not fully dissolve every bit of oil that the plant has to offer. This is the advantage of supercritical CO2, it will dissolve compounds like a liquid state but flow through material like a gas. Anyways, since we do not want butane to go supercritical for safety reasons, I think it stands to reason that we should be soaking plant matter in liquid butane below its boiling point for extended periods. Temperatures this low are easily achieved in an average home freezer. For the past six months I have been extracting oils exactly this way in a stainless steel vessel. Using the same amount of solvent I typically extract twenty percent more oil than when I was using a boro glass tube. Honestly I want to know what everyone's opinion on this method is and are their concerns with leaving the plant material in the solvent for periods of up to three hours. I have started a blog for the vessel I build and sell here at jyindustries.blogspot.com . Please don't take this as a cheap promo, I have never posted on these forums before and so have had no feedback on my research. I am working on videos for my methods and instructions. Those will be up on youtube soon.

The jist of what I do is use a dessicant to dry the flowers for a couple of days until they are suuuuuuper brittle, throw them in the vessel with three glass marbles,seal it and into freezer, empty butane into vessel, into freezer again and shake ever so often, empty through 25 micron stainless screen into purge dish, and repeat desired number of times until all oil is extracted. To my knowledge so long as I remove as much water as possible the increase soak time shouldn't yield extra water solubles. In fact my oils always wind up reddish orangish brown, never green. Anyways, comments desired.
I personally perform butane soaks in stainless thermos. Have soaked for about 3-4 hrs with little loss of liquid butane. I also use a 25micron filter. I don't put the thermos back into the freezer though. Normally it has been 30F when performing soaks anyways. I've also been winterizing my BHO recently. I'm also curious why there aren't more people soaking with butane but I don't care much. Well I'm kinda busy but later I will check out your blog.
 

Guzias1

Well-Known Member
so i finally decided hey why not, lets post something.... last time i mentioned i didnt wanna make you all feel bad, well fuck that today im showing off.

Purple Grizzley Oil
22g

Approx 3/8ths of an inch thick in the dish.



Even with flash on, Extremely clear.

On another note, I just got a quarter gram of shatter gifted to me from a patient. Haven't dabbed in a while, time to medicate. :eyesmoke:

edit:
Really nice, really dry shatter. Dabbed super smooth.




late night dunks, erryone.

Pao!

 
Anyone have any ideas for drying fresh trim ice water hash? i dried it for 2 days on a 10 micron silkscreen and i ended up with with a very taffy like concentrate to soft to break up for further drying. I have read so many conflicting ways to dry it and from what i can tell the best is to just leave it alone. Any "educated" opinions are greatly appreciated.
 

trichmasta

Active Member
Break up patties for more surface area...this will speed up th drying process for sure. Usually between 10-24 hours ime
 

poplars

Well-Known Member
I'd say this counts as a concentrate. even though its an edible concentrate, it was made through very similar methods.

5 runs of material stuffed into a 1 quart mason jar, double boiled with everrclear 3-4 mins each run, evaporated off into 4 oz of extra virgin coconut oil and 4 teaspoons of soy lecithin ;)


and capsules...
 

Sr. Verde

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I've been dabbing some terriBHO lately at work. People keep bringing it in. Nobody takes the time to purge. I'm getting tired of it.

I've had lots of this RP: Sour Kush I've been meaning to run. Yet I haven't had a day free in over a month. :(



All I can say, is, I can't wait to be dabbin this again. I personally enjoy spending all day making sure 29hg produces no bubbles when I'm done:).






It's 105F outside right now, not a cloud in the sky. Great weather to get your purge on.
 

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Fadedawg

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Wow, and I've been sampling some bragging rights stuff brought by by students for show and tell! Some so good that I would be proud to claim it as my own!

Sure a treat to the senses, compared to the average stuff that has been floating around these parts. Hee, hee, hee, snicker, snark, snort..................
 

gratefulmike

New Member
Hey guys,
I am looking into getting a new extraction tube, and maybe you guys could help. I want something that I can use to directly hook up to a tank of butane, cause let's face it, I'm tired of paying for the cans, and sitting there blasting with cans of 'tane is pretty backbreaking. For material, I'm looking to go stainless or titanium, and I don't want a Tamisium, cause I'm not trying to recycle my solvent. If someone could point me towards the right direction, I would be greatly appreciative.
 

Fadedawg

Well-Known Member
Hey guys,
I am looking into getting a new extraction tube, and maybe you guys could help. I want something that I can use to directly hook up to a tank of butane, cause let's face it, I'm tired of paying for the cans, and sitting there blasting with cans of 'tane is pretty backbreaking. For material, I'm looking to go stainless or titanium, and I don't want a Tamisium, cause I'm not trying to recycle my solvent. If someone could point me towards the right direction, I would be greatly appreciative.

Check out the sanitary spools, with end caps and clamps, from http://www.glaciertanks.com/Products-TriClamp_Products.html
 

Sr. Verde

Well-Known Member
Hey guys,
I am looking into getting a new extraction tube, and maybe you guys could help. I want something that I can use to directly hook up to a tank of butane, cause let's face it, I'm tired of paying for the cans, and sitting there blasting with cans of 'tane is pretty backbreaking. For material, I'm looking to go stainless or titanium, and I don't want a Tamisium, cause I'm not trying to recycle my solvent. If someone could point me towards the right direction, I would be greatly appreciative.
So your tired of running through cans of butane, so your looking to hook up a tank of N-Butane on an open ended system?

Your still going to be burning through tanks of butane. Why not reclaim?
 
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