Son, you
AIN'T the only one out there growing A+++ weed, my friend. So your being on your high horse and condescending tone isn't necessary here. I am also looking at LEDs, and I hear both sides. I look at what the nay sayers used as equipment as a major determinant. The high cost of these quality units preclude the average user, and has bred a market for cheap knock offs. I'm finding that most (NOT all) of the naysayers were also price shoppers. THe numbers and specs of truly high quality LED units are impressive. The cost factor still gives me tha jitters, but I believe that they can and do compete very well with HID lights, and the running costs (considering all factors, less need for AC, actual elect. usage etc.) puts them ahead of the game. I hear all sorts of Name brands being bandied about, but there are so many others out there I do NOT hear mentioned. take a look here:
http://www.blackdogled.com/products/bd1300