Still Having Problems that are getting worse

gungfucuddler

gungfucuddler

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Swims plants are now half drooping, still yellowing, leaves dying and falling off of the plant (starting with the lowest and oldest leaves)

Swim had changed his water with nutes originally believing it was an over salt problem due to well water but Swim is still having the problem now.

Swim followed the directions on the advanced nutrients grow liquid hydro nutes to the T.

the pH is 6, the ppm is like 380ish. it floods four times a day for 15min, that is the minimum time the timer I have will stay on.


Does swim need a timer that is shorter? Are there to little nutrients? To many nutrients? pH to high still?

Two of the plants have already kicked the bucket and Swim is worried that the rest will soon follow.
 

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cruzer101

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I think Swim is right. From the looks of things if you keep doing what your doing they will all die.
What I think swim should do is get a different water source like buy a 5 gallon jug of r/o water and try that. Drain the res and fill with water only, pH the water to 5.7 and set timer to water twice a day for 30 min. After three days replace the water and do it again. Once you see the plants responding add 1/2 of whats recommended for nutes and see how they respond. Once they are doing well again I would try the well water again and see if that is the problem.
 
DR. RESINTHUMB

DR. RESINTHUMB

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i think u had 2 probs...1. you were feeding too little and it was yellowing...so it looks like you added more nutes and now it looks like nute burn...i would just run plain water for a couple days and then put in a more diluted mix...i would also cut a few of the leaves in half that are burned...this will help get em jump started...just my pennys worth
 
gungfucuddler

gungfucuddler

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Swim changed out the water as recommended and it has been approximately one day and they seem to be getting yellower. Swim will continue to monitor and hopefully it will get better soon.

Another question that swim has been wondering. Swim lives in a rural area and runs off of well water. Swims well water has a TDS of like 600 or so because of the salts used to soften the water. Should swim not use the softened water and just use the water straight from the well? Or should swim bypass it all together and just use distilled water? At first swim was using the water that went through the water softener (the first time placed in the hydrogarden) and swim believed that to be the original problem and switched to bottled water after that.

Thank You For Your Help and Time
Metta
Jules
 
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Resinpro

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Swim doesnt want excess salts and 600 tds in his reservoir if he wants beautiful plants. Bypass that altogether, a $250 RO machine or store bought RO water will eliminate major problems right there, then fine tune your nutes working up as plants respond. As of a rule of thumb never go full strength bottle directions or not. 1/2 dosage and work up as the plants respond and you get a feel for them, what they are capable of taking.
 
loh-pan

loh-pan

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how does swim deliver water to his plants? Its an interesting set-up.

I think he needs to use better water (distilled or reverse osmosis)and use less nutes than what he had originally calculated. I dont think those clay pellets (hydroton) hold nutrients for very long, but you need enough water.

As for the watering schedule; Cruser101 ( the first one to reply to your post) has a very successful watering system. If your system resembles his you should follow his advice (check out his grow).

I think I need to know how much water is getting to the plants during watering. I dont understand the watering system.
 
gungfucuddler

gungfucuddler

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Thank You for the advice. Swim went out and bought 6 gallons of distilled water and will be keeping the nutes down.

It is an ebb and flow system, it floods each of the individual planters and then drains them back down once the pump is de-activated. The plants were started in jiffy cubes and are still in them surrounded by the L.E.C.A.

Swim has been contemplating building a new, less novel, hydro system that is more well known and generic so that there is more information redly available. So swim does not have to risk a rare crop on experimenting with this planter system.

Metta
Jules
 
gungfucuddler

gungfucuddler

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It was getting worse and worse and finally Swim cut his losses after the third one died and moved them back to soil where they are flourishing and have already almost tripled in size. Swim will be fooling around with the hydrogarden for the next few months with plants a little less valuable and rare until it has been perfected for a cannabis crop. Swim will post pictures soon and start a journal as soon as Swim is able to record his experiments with they hydrogarden and the good old fashion soil growing.

Thank You For All Your Help, If it wasn't for this board Swim does not think any of the plants would have lived long enough to be transplanted at all.
Metta
 
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