Stop mixing peat and coco

JustBlazin · Dec 10, 2020

to many new growers seem to think its a good idea to mix peat and coco into a soil mixture, then they all end up on here posting the problems .
Pick one either grow in a peat based soil or coco, they are different mediums and need to be treated differently.
never grown in coco before but from what i understand you need to water it everyday(till runoff i think?) and ph to around 5.8
I've grown in promix pretty much my whole time growing, you don't need to water it every day just when it starts to dry out a bit, you dont want it to stay to wet or too dry, also PH can very from 6(using salt based nutes) to 6.5-7 in a organic mix

PadawanWarrior · Dec 10, 2020

I agree. I consider them 2 different animals. But this will be an interesting thread.

Gemtree · Dec 10, 2020

I treat coco like peat all the time. Let it dry out, throw some plain sink water on it when im lazy, ect and still grow fire. People are just anal on here

MoroccanRoll · Dec 10, 2020

Hmmmm....

I use a Promix product that contains both peat and coco as part of my soil mix and have no problems. Three grows now with continuous improvement as I gain experience. What am I doing wrong?

PadawanWarrior · Dec 10, 2020

MoroccanRoll said:
Hmmmm....

I use a Promix product that contains both peat and coco as part of my soil mix and have no problems. Three grows now with continuous improvement as I gain experience. What am I doing wrong?

Is it the same Promix, or do you buy new stuff each time?

Rurumo · Dec 10, 2020

Peat and coco are pretty much interchangeable in recipes, they behave slightly differently by themselves and each has its own quirks, but they're both very similar soilless mediums. Here is a good thread for you, read the entire thing and feel your knowledge flower blossom! https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=53792

PadawanWarrior · Dec 10, 2020

Peat vs Coco Coir

This can be a hotly debated topic among growers as to what's the best media for growing plants. In this article, I'll weigh in with my opinion on the subject as there are Pros and Cons to both.

www.kisorganics.com

MoroccanRoll · Dec 10, 2020

This grow is part recycled media, part fresh Promix (mostly cause i wanted to increase the amount of peat/coco in the mix), part backyard compost + a couple of handfuls of organic amendments. I haven't yet taken the leap of faith into no-till. I know you've seen my prior posts so i think you know i'm into minimal intervention growing. I just took two back-to-back one week trips and my plants did just fine without me.

MICHI-CAN · Dec 10, 2020

Peat is not the same thing by location. Most peat is incompatible with coco. Michigan peat works very well with coco. Too broad based term. Why the confusion.

JustBlazin · Dec 10, 2020

I'm talking more about new growers that just started that mix them together then end up on here asking what's wrong. Then they say they put coco in the promix for aeration .
just pick one or the other if your just starting out, gain some experience and then move onto mixing mediums together.
not trying to offend anyone, it's just i see alot of new growers try this and end up with lots of problems

TintEastwood · Dec 10, 2020

Yep. That bagged "Coco Loco" has confused many a grower.

PH being a major dealio.

PadawanWarrior · Dec 10, 2020

JustBlazin said:
I'm talking more about new growers that just started that mix them together then end up on here asking what's wrong. Then they say they put coco in the promix for aeration .
just pick one or the other if your just starting out, gain some experience and then move onto mixing mediums together.
not trying to offend anyone, it's just i see alot of new growers try this and end up with lots of problems

Hahaha. That's why I said this is gonna be an interesting thread. Everybody's got their own opinion.

You should've named the thread "Stop mixing peat and coco, and stop flushing", lol.

MoroccanRoll · Dec 10, 2020

MICHI-CAN said:
Peat is not the same thing by location. Most peat is incompatible with coco. Michigan peat works very well with coco. Too broad based term. Why the confusion.

I'm curious, what does incompatible mean? To me incompatible means i want sex every day and my (now ex) wife would be okay with once a year.

The peat in Promix is Canadian Sphagnum.

MoroccanRoll · Dec 10, 2020

PadawanWarrior said:
Hahaha. That's why I said this is gonna be an interesting thread. Everybody's got their own opinion.

You should've named the thread "Stop mixing peat and coco, and stop flushing", lol.

Channeling my inner asshole here....

Thread should have been named, "You're Doing it Wrong!!!"

MICHI-CAN · Dec 10, 2020

JustBlazin said:
I'm talking more about new growers that just started that mix them together then end up on here asking what's wrong. Then they say they put coco in the promix for aeration .
just pick one or the other if your just starting out, gain some experience and then move onto mixing mediums together.
not trying to offend anyone, it's just i see alot of new growers try this and end up with lots of problems

Here is a current experiment do to this very topic.
White widow autos. Same start. Left is forum based soil mix. Right is coco/peat and amendments. 21 days from germ. A new grower 1000 miles away testing my mix. I believe the results and mine.

PadawanWarrior · Dec 10, 2020

MoroccanRoll said:
I'm curious, what does incompatible mean? To me incompatible means i want sex every day and my (now ex) wife would be okay with once a year.

The peat in Promix is Canadian Sphagnum.

I bet you're compatible with your right hand. Well unless you're left handed.

TintEastwood · Dec 10, 2020

Bat guana matters!

I dig the Hydro halos.

MICHI-CAN · Dec 10, 2020

MoroccanRoll said:
I'm curious, what does incompatible mean? To me incompatible means i want sex every day and my (now ex) wife would be okay with once a year.

The peat in Promix is Canadian Sphagnum.

Exactly. Spagnum. Not ancient decayed vegetation under water. Our peat is a rich, actually hot, dark organic soil so to speak. Not the same.

PadawanWarrior · Dec 10, 2020

MICHI-CAN said:
Here is a current experiment do to this very topic.
White widow autos. Same start. Left is forum based soil mix. Right is coco/peat and amendments. 21 days from germ. A new grower 1000 miles away testing my mix. I believe the results and mine. View attachment 4765278

WTF is forum based soil mix?

JustBlazin · Dec 10, 2020

PadawanWarrior said:
Hahaha. That's why I said this is gonna be an interesting thread. Everybody's got their own opinion.

You should've named the thread "Stop mixing peat and coco, and stop flushing", lol.

lol
i put it in the newb section cause its more geared toward them. Didn't realize it was such a touchy subject

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