Strange growth and colouring

Turanchala

Turanchala

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Hi I am running chemdawg and gorilla skittles in 20L pots of professional coco / inert coco. I started off early veg with advanced nutrients sense grow a and b but on week 2 /3 of veg I switched to canna coco and b and cannazym , everything was ok till I over worried that they didn’t look right so I added some revive from an which I got as a sample bottle , I added one quarter strength to my normal feed of half strength canna a and b and cannazym which e.c was around 0.8 /1.0 now I don’t know if I have locked anything out but I can see burned tips and very wrinkled foliage and I am on day 3 of flower but they are still growing and stretching a lot , my question I need help with is do I flush or lower ec or carry on as normal as I am worried the new growth may have the slightest white tip on the end , also I have these nutrients in the pics that I need some advice on when to use them in week by week as I have never ran advanced nutrients before and I have canna as the base nutes. Ph is always 5.8 temps 22/23•c and good air flow , under two 600w hps 100w gavita (set to 400 atm ) and two 400w viperspectra leds , 5 weeks veg now day 3 flower , I just don’t know if you can mix additives of a.n with like a canna base etc also . The last thing I want is them to be unbalanced at this stage , anyway thank you for reading my long post and I appreciate any advice given .

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Gemtree

Gemtree

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The wrinkles are just a bit of over watering just back off the watering a bit they will grow out of it. You can mix additives with canna as long as the npk isnt too crazy I use canna base with calmag, floralicious plus, pk 13/14 week 5 and overdrive week 6-8
 
Kingrow1

Kingrow1

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Back the lights up some, at a guess that was the original problem idk its hard to speculate when not my own grow.

:-)
 
Turanchala

Turanchala

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Gemtree said:
The wrinkles are just a bit of over watering just back off the watering a bit they will grow out of it. You can mix additives with canna as long as the npk isnt too crazy I use canna base with calmag, floralicious plus, pk 13/14 week 5 and overdrive week 6-8
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Even if I only water once a day and it’s coco ? And yeah canna seems to be very strong on the npk so I I make a base up of a and b up to 0.7ec then add the additives which has more pk and aminos etc which totals it to like 1.0 ec Thanks for the reply
 
Turanchala

Turanchala

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Kingrow1 said:
Back the lights up some, at a guess that was the original problem idk its hard to speculate when not my own grow.

:-)
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The lights are very far away I don’t have light burn from what I can tell I definitely did put the wrong nute in with all my normal nutes it’s called revive and they didn’t need reviving it has high concentration of N and cal mag in there which should be used on its own for sick plants , that is where the slight burn came from I’m sure but as for the wrinkles and lettuce like foliage idk , thanks
 
PrometheanLeaf

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You still want to wait til the coco dries out a bit until they grow into their pots a bit more. (root development) They do like frequent fertigation, so many of us opt for smaller pots to start with.

I'd try to hold off on daily fertigation until the top inch or more of the top layer of coco in your pots start drying out every 30-36 hours or so. That's at least what I have done with success.
 
BenGman

BenGman

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Overkill on the Nute's and size of the pot, I grow them in 10L never a problem...next time try canna classic instead, you can't go wrong with it & all you need is canna nutrients, nothing else. If you haven't sussed the canna guide online..do so it will tell you week by week what to do, peaceee
 
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Mitchician

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Turanchala said:
Jugs ? The pots are 20 litre will they fill them up I thought so ?
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I think everyone is surprised that you have the 5L bottles of Canna products. Most home growers usually use the 1L bottles.
They're also surprised that you use so many additives. It also looks like more than it is because you have multiple bottles of some products.
People probably think your dad owns a hydro store. Do you have much experience with the Canna range? Just wondering why you want all the extra stuff..
 
BenGman

BenGman

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Turanchala said:
I just don’t know if you can mix additives of a.n with like a canna base etc also . The last thing I want is them to be unbalanced at this stage
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You kinda answered your own question there, levels of nutrients and minerals should be balanced so your plants are getting everything they need in the correct proportion, canna even recommends not to mix other brands with their nutes for that reason.
 
Kingrow1

Kingrow1

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Your internode length suggests that they are recieving a ton of light and you could back off some.

As i read it thats a lot of lights for just that grow. Just an idea anyway if your sure its not the light screwing the tops :-)


Turanchala said:
The lights are very far away I don’t have light burn from what I can tell I definitely did put the wrong nute in with all my normal nutes it’s called revive and they didn’t need reviving it has high concentration of N and cal mag in there which should be used on its own for sick plants , that is where the slight burn came from I’m sure but as for the wrinkles and lettuce like foliage idk , thanks
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Turanchala

Turanchala

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All the additives are from advanced nutrients but I havnt used any yet there more for flower however I have used voodoo juice which is organic for the roots and raw kelp in powder I still have big bud ,overdrive ,rhino skin , and bud factor x , and bud candy and carbalod which are all for different stages of flower e.g rhino skin is sillica for toughness of stems carboload is for carbs , the budcandy is like molasses the bugbud is aminos and more p.k etc , and as for too much light from what I thought was true is no light can match the suns light and the more light more buds ? Eg 1gram per watt providing there is enough space for them to receive it plus optimal conditions. Do I have this wrong ?
 
Turanchala

Turanchala

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Also every where I have read it says to fertility coco at least once a day so the ec and ph do not rise which they will if new water is not added daily at least
 
Turanchala

Turanchala

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Should I do a small lst to open them up a little ? Or is it too late
 

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NastyNug

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Hi, they look over watered and too many Nutes. Easy fixes, just back off both. Wait until the pots need watering, they’ll be fine.
 
Turanchala

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PrometheanLeaf said:
You still want to wait til the coco dries out a bit until they grow into their pots a bit more. (root development) They do like frequent fertigation, so many of us opt for smaller pots to start with.

I'd try to hold off on daily fertigation until the top inch or more of the top layer of coco in your pots start drying out every 30-36 hours or so. That's at least what I have done with success.
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Yea I read that it is the coco that needs to be kept moist with at least. One watering a day which is critical so that the ph and ec does not fluctuate , I read this from canna and a couple other sites but it really does look like the leaves are holding much water
 
Turanchala

Turanchala

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NastyNug said:
Hi, they look over watered and too many Nutes. Easy fixes, just back off both. Wait until the pots need watering, they’ll be fine.
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I’m at day 7 flower though so do they need to be eating a lot or should I say a strong balance right now , my ec has never gone past 1.0 yet I started with 0.4 week 1 then 0.6 week two etc now I’m at 0.9
 
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