SubCool vs Arjan

Dr. Greenhorn

Dr. Greenhorn

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punkenstien said:
Well m8 you are in the minority that I have ran acroos that are displeased with Dr GT. But if you grew out males you obviously were not growing his "Elite" strains that we are bragging about since they are only available in feminized form. Btw i'll take St.Pierre over BJ Penn and give you 1 round on thier next meeting that is if BJ agrees to another beatdown.
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hey punk, one more thing.......


why is it that these "elite strains" that you are bragging about only come "feminized" lol ... what's up with that??

TGA alll the way:cool:
 
grassified

grassified

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Dr. Greenhorn said:
hey punk, one more thing.......


why is it that these "elite strains" that you are bragging about only come "feminized" lol ... what's up with that??

TGA alll the way:cool:
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cuz DRGT is a big jew nose and chooses to keep his strains unavailable to the general public for true breeding by not offering any regular seeds,:clap::evil:

But I will admit they are elite genetics, had a frd that grew his endless sky, it does great outdoors and the potency is unbelievable for such a vigorous healthy growing plant. He smoked me out on some and I will say from a first hand account that it is up there with any of the kushes, great stuff.

Only con is yield according to the grower, but that could have been influenced by a number of factors.

truly great genetics, too bad hes too greedy to share them, oh well.
 
Fditty00

Fditty00

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punkenstien said:
Because he is into making money not friends. Btw I looked at your grow logs and I can see why you have had shitty luck growing out his seeds. By the looks of your grows you need to spend less time turbo trolling and posting worthless info and more time in the garden you unskilled growing fool!
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Dont hate! Ur mad cause nobody checked ur journal out! The flyin Hawaiian is in the buildin!!
I just skimmed through it, i like bud porn, but the views of Hawaii. Speechless..
 
Highlanders cave

Highlanders cave

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punkenstien said:
If you are looking for a 10 potency strain you better keep looking. Super Lemon Haze is good and Subcools strains are so so but if I was looking for real genetics I would go with Dr. Greenthumb seeds over any of the wannabee's that are selling thier bullshit. And believe me I have spent thousands of dollars all subcool strains and most of GH elite strains and was very disappointed looking for that holy grail and finally found a few strains that were exceptional at Dr GT seeds
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I'm wondering how many of subcools strains have been grown out by the people that are "disagreeing" with Pumkinstein. Prolly hardly any between the lot of ya.

I grow 3 Cannabis Cup Winners and 4 of subs strains. Hate to burst anyones bubble, least of all the "disagreers" here, but guess whose genetics are superior...yup the Cup winners. My next order of seeds will not be coming from TGA.

https://www.rollitup.org/subcools-old-school-organics/271527-lets-run-some-tga-strains.html
 
w1ckedchowda

w1ckedchowda

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Killing4theLord said:
Arjan is the fuckin man. Also responsible for a lot of the weeds people dont shut the fuck up about.
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No, shantibaba and Mr. Nice Guy is the reason why people don't shut up about certain strains, not Arjan.

Arjan just went for the ride promiting the business and marketing, while shanti and mr. nice guy just did the breeding & all the hard work.
 
Fditty00

Fditty00

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^^^^^ and it shows! My medi-patient wanted to try Kings Kush. Got it last Tues. 4-11 germed. 2-4 sprouted! I have only had 2 beans not germ for me, and that was a long time ago. I WAS flawless until she ordered this CRAP! Strains they create ( Arjan and Franco) are TRASH! Literally. The strains they stole, unstable. Im gladI didnt pay for these or id really b pissed...1
 
kaos.underwave

kaos.underwave

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Aaah.. I kinda feel like a black sheep when it comes to the Arjan bashing.
Because there's so much bashing, I always feel obliged to weigh in on the other side to make it all a bit more objective.
I've grown the sativa 5 seed pack from GH- Arjan's Haze#1, Arjan's Strawberry haze, Hawaiian Snow, Neville's Haze, and Super Silver Haze,
and a load of Arjan's Ultra Haze #1. All in coco with Hesi nutes and 250w mh for veg, 600w HPS for flower, veg for 4, flower for 11-12 [90% sativas]

The ultra haze 1st coco grow yielded ~10oz [5 plants]
When I got better, the sativa mix pack yielded 14oz~ [5 plants]

Which I was very pleased with, nice healthy massive plants grew very quickly, responded well to flowering conditions, etc, no complaints

HOWEVER! Yes, there are some instability issues.

I got 3 ultra haze that were uniform, the other 2 were short + fat, and long+ thin respectively

general info:

the hawaiian snow grew into a tree and yielded almost nothing compared to the others, with no less than 40-50 small bud sites
The super silver haze yielded over 4 oz++ by itself, and was a pretty good tasty high.
Nevilles haze yielded less but was quite intense smoke
And the strawberry was sweet as youd expect
Arjans haze was moderate in yield and quantity, but got a bit shaded out and stretchy
The ultra haze yielded about 1.5-2 oz each but were by far the best smoke, [generally 2oz in one massive dense crystally football bud - delicious]

So I've had good experiences with GH, just wanted to put that out there
having said that, I've been dreaming of Cheese ever since I last visited dam
had some from the sadly now defunct homegrown coffeeshop and it was the best stuff I ever smoked by a long way, just perfect
and I've heard everywhere that the GH cheese is really no good at all compared to the HGF version, apparently taken from the original UK exodus cut. So I'm going for the HGF cheese, and saying a fond farewell to GH for now.

Maybe this post was way too long, but my point is, loads of people will say Arjan is either God or Satan, and his seeds are either wonderful or shitty, and the rather boring truth is that GH IME is pretty decent. Neither amazing nor awful. just decent. good yield, good smoke.
 
tingpoon

tingpoon

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kaos.underwave said:
Aaah.. I kinda feel like a black sheep when it comes to the Arjan bashing.
Because there's so much bashing, I always feel obliged to weigh in on the other side to make it all a bit more objective.
I've grown the sativa 5 seed pack from GH- Arjan's Haze#1, Arjan's Strawberry haze, Hawaiian Snow, Neville's Haze, and Super Silver Haze,
and a load of Arjan's Ultra Haze #1. All in coco with Hesi nutes and 250w mh for veg, 600w HPS for flower, veg for 4, flower for 11-12 [90% sativas]

The ultra haze 1st coco grow yielded ~10oz [5 plants]
When I got better, the sativa mix pack yielded 14oz~ [5 plants]

Which I was very pleased with, nice healthy massive plants grew very quickly, responded well to flowering conditions, etc, no complaints

HOWEVER! Yes, there are some instability issues.

I got 3 ultra haze that were uniform, the other 2 were short + fat, and long+ thin respectively

general info:

the hawaiian snow grew into a tree and yielded almost nothing compared to the others, with no less than 40-50 small bud sites
The super silver haze yielded over 4 oz++ by itself, and was a pretty good tasty high.
Nevilles haze yielded less but was quite intense smoke
And the strawberry was sweet as youd expect
Arjans haze was moderate in yield and quantity, but got a bit shaded out and stretchy
The ultra haze yielded about 1.5-2 oz each but were by far the best smoke, [generally 2oz in one massive dense crystally football bud - delicious]

So I've had good experiences with GH, just wanted to put that out there
having said that, I've been dreaming of Cheese ever since I last visited dam
had some from the sadly now defunct homegrown coffeeshop and it was the best stuff I ever smoked by a long way, just perfect
and I've heard everywhere that the GH cheese is really no good at all compared to the HGF version, apparently taken from the original UK exodus cut. So I'm going for the HGF cheese, and saying a fond farewell to GH for now.

Maybe this post was way too long, but my point is, loads of people will say Arjan is either God or Satan, and his seeds are either wonderful or shitty, and the rather boring truth is that GH IME is pretty decent. Neither amazing nor awful. just decent. good yield, good smoke.
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I agree.. theres a lot of sick hatred on GHS right now.. But in comparison to some other breeders out there right now, they aint bad.

I've grown out their white widow, white rhino, super lemon haze, and I got a few more in the oven.. Let's just say that they may not be completely honest guys when it comes to rigging cups, but their smoke is actually among the top tiers of weed I've grown in terms of potency and yield. in terms of ordering from attitude, you get a good price on it as long as use code 420 in the voucher when your checking out.
 
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HAMandCHEEZ4life

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Highlanders cave said:
I'm wondering how many of subcools strains have been grown out by the people that are "disagreeing" with Pumkinstein. Prolly hardly any between the lot of ya.

I grow 3 Cannabis Cup Winners and 4 of subs strains. Hate to burst anyones bubble, least of all the "disagreers" here, but guess whose genetics are superior...yup the Cup winners. My next order of seeds will not be coming from TGA.

https://www.rollitup.org/subcools-old-school-organics/271527-lets-run-some-tga-strains.html
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100% aggree...i got some bomb smoke from some of tga genetics, but overall i will not be ordering from them again.

most of the tga i had were pretty airy compared to other strains...and dont say it was my fault because the heavy duty fruity and sensi star cuts that are in there with them are rock solid..

got alot of males from subcool too..i dunno im on the fence about him, but i personally will not order again..

look into dj short...very reputable breeder, and his blue berry is the shiz
 
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Biggybuds

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i don't want to get into a big fight or anything but i have grown just about every feminized strain dr. greenthumb carries and have never ever had a male or a hermy. i doubt you could get a male or hermy if you tried; so i'm not buying the 8 males story. i have bought seeds from every seedbabk around but now I only buy from the dr.
 
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Killing4theLord

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w1ckedchowda said:
No, shantibaba and Mr. Nice Guy is the reason why people don't shut up about certain strains, not Arjan.

Arjan just went for the ride promiting the business and marketing, while shanti and mr. nice guy just did the breeding & all the hard work.
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Yea, Thats called a team. Dude is not walking in the circles he is and in high times for ten plus years because hes a nobody. And assuming he is a nobody and weak. The very fact we are talking about him makes him the man.Maybe Shantibaba and Mr . Nice guy wouldnt be who they are without his marketing and business savvy. And who says marketing and promoting isnt hard work? But respect to all opinions.
 
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