sucker fish in the dwc tub with the nutes

Gastanker

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Fish shit kills fish... You know that right? That's why you need to have filters on fish tanks - to clean up the fish shit... I have quite a few aquariums, none are sterile; all mud bottom planted tanks...

I feel bad for your fish. And before you go on about fish living in human shit please do some research on waste water management and the role those fish play in it. :roll:
 

Illegal Smile

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The best thing to put in your res is genuine bigfoot blood - and I'm selling it! Only $300 for a whole grow.

Watch for my new strain - SASQUATCH!
 

sorethumb

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i am running a filter. where do they get those fish from in the wild exactly. i dont think conditions are any different in a river or stagnet pond let alone those pools in those plants as for reseach in waste water management i really want to know what is there role??
 

Gastanker

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It really really depends on the type of nute and the amount. I'm not a finicky fish keeper; I don't monitor water conditions, have an undersized filter, but I have massive amounts of dirt and plants in my tanks that operate as a massive biological filter - very similar to the algae they use in the very last/one of the latest stages of waste water processing (where the fish reside to eat the algae - they themselves are not part of the filtration) - this process is after several mechanical separations of waste and then several steps of biological filtration via bubbling pools. The amounts the EPA allows of Nitrates at this stage or water filtration is 10 ppm, maximum for fish being around 100ppm with ideal conditions being below 50 ppm.

Typically the algae stage where the fish reside would be after disinfection on the way to discharge:



Much of your fertilizer will be nitrites (not nitrates) which the fish are MUCH more sensitive to with a tolerance of only 1ppm and ideal ranges being around .1ppm. Most hydro growers I know try and run at around 600-1200 ppm which should easily kill any fish. Aquaponics is VERY VERY different than putting an algae eater into a dosed res.
 

FR33MASON

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As long as you're heavy metals, ammonia, and nitrates are kept near zero with zero levels being the best, it should be no problem. Heavy metals clog up gills. You will know if it is a problem if you see the fish 'sneezing'. As for nitrates, it acts like carbon monoxide and the fish will exhibit fast respiration while barely moving or even trying to gulp air and in extreme cases, jump out of the water. I utilize my tanks and pond for all my plant water but my aquaria and pond is well established and if your resivoir is not well established for the fish you risk great harm to both your fish and plants as you will have an ammonia and nitrate spike until the nitrogen cycle is established.
 

Warlock1369

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Damn alot of haters on this idea. But realy 1 fish won't realy do much. And your adding nutes check to see what is in them and what your fish can be exposed to. But I say if the fish lives and so do the plants. Do your thing. But watch for a dead fish. If I dies the decomposing body will put bacteria in your water and can kill the plants. Hydro isn't like soil.
 

sorethumb

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heres the thing im useing a mix of soil with soiless medium i really am not useing much nutes as is i think i may not need them if all goes to plan life giveing life ecosystem type thing
 

sorethumb

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i am trying to make a ecosystem for both fish and plants to co exist to benifit from eachother in nature plants and fish go hand and hand the circle of life
i bet alot of you on here think your doing good things for your plants or fish but i bet you use none organic chemicals on them huh those that are useing none
organic chemicals shouldnt be growing like this TRYNAGROSUMSHYT
 

sorethumb

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lol oops yeah that may be bad news bears lmao then i shouldnt tell anyone about my trying to make a cat fly experiments then huh
 
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